BertramCooper
Banned
I was hoping for a snide remark from her, since she's pretty damn good at those.
The ep definitely needed more Dana. I think her brother is getting Judy Winslow'd.
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I was hoping for a snide remark from her, since she's pretty damn good at those.
The ep definitely needed more Dana. I think her brother is getting Judy Winslow'd.
Willkiller
Banned
Fuck Dana and her ridiculous nasally voice
blahblah...blah
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I like Dana.
Harry Potter
Banned
More like Bobby Draper'd.
Still loved the episode but I was asking why didn't Brody just hang up and call his wife back rather than keep her on the phone while the tailor was making all that noise?
Oh, not sure if it was ever brought up, but does anyone else wonder why the show's opening shows every U.S. President since Reagan except George W?
Oh, not sure if it was ever brought up, but does anyone else wonder why the show's opening shows every U.S. President since Reagan except George W?
Just got around to watching it. I called it in my head last week that they'd pull some shit like not showing her the video until the last scene.
I'm wondering why Brody is being used in such a fashion. I'm not ready to admit it's weak writing. There's got to be a purpose, like reminding Brody who he is and why he's there.
I'm wondering why Brody is being used in such a fashion. I'm not ready to admit it's weak writing. There's got to be a purpose, like reminding Brody who he is and why he's there.
It's weak writing until proven otherwise. /GAF
Seriously though. I do have some grips about the start of the season, although it's minimum stuff. I don't have a problem with what you guys do. I think there's a purpose behind it all.
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Sneak Peek: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOxLXvBol8A&feature=plcp
It's about
Saul handing the SD Card to Estes
spermatic cord
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Just watched the preview for the next episode. Shit is off to an amazing start. The writers on this show do not fuck around.
I was ready when Brody was gonna go hard, but then Jessica slowed it down. Probably would have been done before Dana showed up
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
He looked pretty hard to me...
That's what I'm thinking. There has to be a reason. Am I the only one who thinks Brody is having seconds thoughts about what he's doing?
BertramCooper
Banned
That's the one of the few theories that I might be willing to buy, though if true, it still makes me think that Abu Nazir is incredibly stupid and short-sighted.
It also strikes me as extremely risky.
Abu Nazir might get to cackle malevolently, but Brody has a wealth of information about him that would almost certainly aid the CIA in their hunt. So throwing Brody under the bus seems quite stupid.
BrokenEchelon
Banned
Am I the only one who is actively rooting for Brody to get fucking murdered/caught?
His justifications for his actions are idiotic and no better than those of any other terrorist. You saw a drone strike so you want to kill innocent Americans? Wow, you're a god damn paladin of justice Brody. That's seriously the best they could come up with? "NOW YOU SEE IT FROM OUR SIDE AND YOU'RE JUST AS BAD AS WE ARE SO LEAVE EVERYTHING BEHIND AND JOIN US!"
I've been watching this show hoping for some kind of intelligent payoff, and it certainly makes you think that it's always just around the next corner, but I'm seriously starting to think that this is becoming one of the most overrated shows ever.
It definitely didn't deserve the Emmy, but I'll see it through Season 2 I guess.
The real hero of the show:
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120426195412/homelandtv/images/6/6d/Saul_profile.png
His justifications for his actions are idiotic and no better than those of any other terrorist. You saw a drone strike so you want to kill innocent Americans? Wow, you're a god damn paladin of justice Brody. That's seriously the best they could come up with? "NOW YOU SEE IT FROM OUR SIDE AND YOU'RE JUST AS BAD AS WE ARE SO LEAVE EVERYTHING BEHIND AND JOIN US!"
I've been watching this show hoping for some kind of intelligent payoff, and it certainly makes you think that it's always just around the next corner, but I'm seriously starting to think that this is becoming one of the most overrated shows ever.
It definitely didn't deserve the Emmy, but I'll see it through Season 2 I guess.
The real hero of the show:
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120426195412/homelandtv/images/6/6d/Saul_profile.png
Not sure why this is spoiler tagged at all.
He's actually been pretty clear he doesn't want to kill innocent civilians so I'm not sure where this came from.
Why was that truck supposedly a CIA one? At first I thought it was just Brody being paranoid, but since everyone is saying it was a CIA truck I'm assuming I missed something.
BertramCooper
Banned
It wasn't a CIA truck. Brody was just being paranoid.
BrokenEchelon
Banned
There wasn't anything in the OT about spoilers as far as I saw so I wanted to err on the side of caution.
What about last episode? Or would you call that self defense?
^ Should that be in tags? :?
They weren't following them. Brody was just being paranoid.
one and only rule: don't come into a movie/show thread if you haven't seen it!
BrokenEchelon
Banned
He probably has blood on his hands, but then we get into the "judge, jury and executioner" mentality and that doesn't exactly sit in morally safe territory, but even in Season 1 he was a heartbeat away from blowing everyone to hell in that bunker and the only thing that changed his mind was his daughter.
I don't know if it's the writing or the premise, but it just seems like weak justification after weak justification to me.
Thank you for rubber stamping this.
The One Who Knocks
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I thought this was the most bizarre thing of the entire episode really. Even with every other plot contrivance in the series to date, I will be incredibly annoyed if this doesn't have any reprecussions. Even ignoring the entire stupidity of sending Brody himself to go get the tailor, going in his own car and leaving while he's under surveilance is just something I cannot look past as I have done so with other elements of the plot in the past. I'm quite sure I wouldn't be alone in saying that the show is teetering very delicately on the line of a very good show and one that will end up as 24 did (which, although entertaining, was completely ridiculous with the everything manipulated to serve the plot, regardless of the logic at that time and I say this as somebody who watched all eight seasons), almost in the same way that Carrie's mood is.
I hope that all of this is on purpose however, I really just don't want to see it go the same way that 24 did and Brody's entire plotline, despite being central to the show, is really dragging the show down as it currently exists (each of his three subplots in the last three episodes have been the most problematic moment of that episode).
EDIT: Ok, if it was just a random truck and it was to highlight Brody's paranoia I do not nearly have as much of a problem with this particular event. Ironically though, because of how poorly surveillance seems to have been done on this show (in Beirut for example the cars following Saul making little attempt to hide themselves and Carrie following Brody to the support group) I had gotten the impression it was the CIA since the person in the truck gets out and then as Brody and the tailor leave through the back the truck follows in the same direction, staying a similar distance away from him that the previous shown surveillance teams in the series have. This does make much more sense when put inline with the reporters comments however.
EDIT 2: Actually, regardless of that specific truck itself, I still do not see why Brody would go in his own car and even risk a surveillance team being there. I have heard the suggestion that Abu Nazir had received the news that the tape had been taken via the security in Lebannon and that is why he sent him to the tailor himself, to assess if he was still loyal or had he flipped but I still think that the entire plotline, even if this was the case, is nonsensical, completely unworth the risk.
That is shockingly accurate, lol.
Well considering the vest he was going to use to blow up all those people in the bunker was made by the guy he killed last episode, I don't think there's exactly a lot of doubt as to his intentions in building them. And the people in the bunker weren't civilians either, incidentally.
I mean, I definitely don't believe in vigilante justice at all, and I don't think Brody is a morally positive character here, but I don't get where you see an inconsistency in his character over this. He's killed or tried to kill only people who were participants in the war he believes he's fighting.
shadyspace
Banned
Brody fucking sucks. Like, were we supposed to feel sorry for him as he's on the phone with his wife whilst participating in terrorist activities? Oh no he feels bad about letting down his wife and not being able to attend her charity event being a terrorist is so hard guys 
Brody fucking sucks. Like, were we supposed to feel sorry for him as he's on the phone with his wife whilst participating in terrorist activities? Oh no he feels bad about letting down his wife and not being able to attend her charity event being a terrorist is so hard guys
No? I have never gotten the feeling that the show wants us to sympathize with Brody... I mean, on top of being an almost-terrorist, he ruined Carrie's life...
shadyspace
Banned
He's certainly not portrayed as a villain.
Harry Potter
Banned
I thought I saw a tent too.
Homeland's writers are awesome Damn, Homeland is going to drop another big development in this upcoming episode too. I love their writers.
Dana to me is damn annoying. Everytime Brody is up to something she pops out of no where with her "dad?".
When he's putting the bomb in the car, "dad"?
When he's putting on the vest, "Dad?"
When he's about to blow himself up, "Dad?"
And now it's affecting brody's love life. He's about to get some kitchen sex, "Dad?"
Does this girl never sleep? When her parents fought last episode; when Brody is praying at like 4 am, "Dad?"
Also I'm on Brody's side only because I dislike Carrie so much. I really hate the fact that Saul validated her suspicions. It's cool how people are taking sides in the show. Season 1 I never thought id be with Brody.
When he's putting the bomb in the car, "dad"?
When he's putting on the vest, "Dad?"
When he's about to blow himself up, "Dad?"
And now it's affecting brody's love life. He's about to get some kitchen sex, "Dad?"
Does this girl never sleep? When her parents fought last episode; when Brody is praying at like 4 am, "Dad?"
Also I'm on Brody's side only because I dislike Carrie so much. I really hate the fact that Saul validated her suspicions. It's cool how people are taking sides in the show. Season 1 I never thought id be with Brody.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
There was definitely a tent.
I see him as an anti-hero type; not a whole lot unlike Walt in Breaking Bad (who is definitely not a good person).
The brody parts were pretty much comedy to me. Dude has the worst luck.Brody fucking sucks. Like, were we supposed to feel sorry for him as he's on the phone with his wife whilst participating in terrorist activities? Oh no he feels bad about letting down his wife and not being able to attend her charity event being a terrorist is so hard guys
Oh yea and brody texting may 1 as the warning was deep.
brianjones
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damn that brody storyline was hilariously bad
the tears of joy in carries face were worth it though
btw whatever happened to brody's son? they only ever show his daughter these days
the tears of joy in carries face were worth it though
btw whatever happened to brody's son? they only ever show his daughter these days
Carrie gonna steal Brody's soul
I have no intention of spoiling myself, but a friend of mine read it and he told me next episode's
final scene is so big it could work as a season finale. True?
Goddamn.
Immortal Technique
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The title of the season finale is
The Choice
Yup, that article was really more about teasing/hyping the next episode than any super specific spoilers. The author goes a bit further than that and claims
that episode 4's ending could've possibly even worked as a SERIES finale
I can't wait for Sunday.
I just got caught up on this show from the beginning.
The good news - it's an awesome series.
The bad news - the most recent episode was pretty bad. So much filler.
My guess as to what happens next:
Also, about the scene in the situation room in episode 2.
The good news - it's an awesome series.
The bad news - the most recent episode was pretty bad. So much filler.
My guess as to what happens next:
Saul is about to get whacked. There is a mole. Estes seems the obvious choice - too obvious.
Also, about the scene in the situation room in episode 2.
No way they'd let Brody take a cellphone in there. And the room would have been shielded, anyway. That was bad.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Why?
There's something about her that really bothers me. It's obviously not completely justified since she has reasons to act like she does from her side of the story, but I just don't like how she's so obsessed on playing the cards right with people who are clearly awful and keeps giving Brody a hard time after talking about how he was fucking Carrie while just there and then she was trying to Fuck his friend again. Not to mention the fucking outrage over the religion thing
its weird, since knowing Brody's true nature this shouldn't bother me, but the shows written in a way that it does, regardless of who I'd be 'rooting' for
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