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Horizon Zero Dawn Spoiler-free Impressions (for real this time)
- Thread starter More_Badass
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The latter I think.
i currently have an unmet side quest that tells me there's an ancient suit of armor in a dungeon left by the Old Ones
Yes. The humans are not as good as say TLOU where they team up to flank you. But they're serviceable lol.
MiamiWesker
Member
Holy shit this game opens up! The first area is stupid shit, like a different game. So much to do, so many things to discover. I have to sleep, impressions tomorrow.
MasterMenace
Member
Sounds like Witcher 3 White Orchard...
zkorejo
Member
The latter I think.i currently have an unmet side quest that tells me there's an ancient suit of armor in a dungeon left by the Old Ones
Yes. The humans are not as good as say TLOU where they team up to flank you. But they're serviceable lol.
Ah Nice. Thanks for responding and all the impressions (to everyone).
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
TLOU isn't a high bar for enemy AI. ._.
I can't even remember good third-person action human AI. Give me an example lol.
It just came to mind because I played it and U4 not so long ago. The enemies at least try to flank you.
Here they don't really do that.
flipswitch
Member
What would you say is? My favourite is MGSV for cheer fun.
More_Badass
Member
I get the sense thst the opening/first area is perhaps more linear?
Yes. There's a couple of extra things you could do, but not too much yet. The urgency is to get you to this point in the story where the game opens up to you. The beginning mostly exists to get you used to the mechanics and traversal.
Lion Heart
Banned
Not nearly as good as TLOU, U4 or MGS5.
More_Badass
Member
Would you expect an open world game to have as good AI as a linear game? MGS is an exception, probably because everyone in the open world is an enemy
In this, I expect the machines' behavior to be decent. Human enemies not so much
texhnolyze
Banned
Yeah, sounds like White Orchard. At least it's not like the Hinterlands.
That makes sense Miami. The one time I tried it, 1 side quest was like 0.46% or something. Multiply by 5 and you get close to your number.
Coffee cups are...a region where you can find an "ancient vessel," a rare item pick up for trading and upgrading and stuff. I bought a map upgrade to show me where they are. They're actually little coffee mugs and stuff from the distant past. Lol
Yes, includes tallneck.
Maybe the game is only counting time where you're not idle. That would be pretty intelligent. In that case I would agree that I've played 10 hours so far.
For those wondering about how good the side quests are, I have an example I just experienced. It was pretty great.
I was on my way to a cauldron when I ran across some bandits. Didn't know they were until they started attacking me. I defeated them and took their heavy weapon and figured I'd need it on the way to the cauldron.
On the way I find some braves who need help fighting machines because their back up brought the wrong ammo supply box. So I decide to help them.
After some intense fights with my heavy weapon, we notice someone from the group disappeared with some valuable supplies. They ask me to go find him.
I track his trail with my focus and find him not too far away. He explains that he's in debt and needs these supplies to save him from his debtors.
As he explains that, his neck is sliced by a new type of machine. It goes invisible and attacks you with remote controlled bombs and moves like a panther. A really thrilling machine I hadn't seen until just then during this Side quest,
I defeat the machine and return the supplies. Now I'm back on my way to the cauldron, but not without being paid handsomely
Tfw you realize the optional bandit camps are more MGSV than Far Cry
Thanks for these Impressions, now i am slightly holding back myself from more spoilers.. hmm.
Welp here goes all the images and gifs from imgur
Man that machine had all sorts of attack in its arsenal.
Long range
Short range fire
Charging
Heavy melee attacks.
Nightengale
Member
Spoiler that!
Wouldn't this be considered a spoiler?
Man. My hype is officially through the roof.
Rien
Jelly Belly
Anyone knows about the Collectors Edition's quality? If the reviews are good i'm thinking abt ordering the CE since i like the package.. but i wish to know if the quality ex. statue is of decent quality.
I know its a long shot to ask but with them copies in the wild. Guess you never know.
I know its a long shot to ask but with them copies in the wild. Guess you never know.
This is the last machine we don't know of till now, i thought someone would have already posted. Sorry for the spoilers.
So there is no Elephanta Machine
Forget about this , so did you finally reached the cauldron??
Nightengale
Member
You still haven't spoilered or removed the pic, Vivek...
texhnolyze
Banned
It's already spoiler-tagged. But spoiler tags on pictures don't work on mobiles, so..
It most definitely is. Buggy Remaster AI notwithstanding. If you're counting invisible friendly NPCs as a problem then nooooope.
Witcher 3 isn't very living or breathing.
Re side quests, this is a huge pleasant surprise for me.
MasterMenace
Member
Spoiler free trophy list
http://www.powerpyx.com/horizon-zero-dawn-trophy-list-revealed/
"...56 Trophies (1 Platinum, 1 Gold, 5 Silver, 49 Bronze for a total of 1155 points)..."
http://www.powerpyx.com/horizon-zero-dawn-trophy-list-revealed/
"...56 Trophies (1 Platinum, 1 Gold, 5 Silver, 49 Bronze for a total of 1155 points)..."
Yautja_Warrior
Member
I don't know about that, I mean The Witcher 3 puts most RPG's to shame when it comes to the world you explore, with towns and cities full of people, walking around, it all feels pretty living to me (having a decent PC with the NPC count on Max helps a lot)
Horizon's side quests do sound really great though. Looking forward to playing it.
scoobs
Member
Oh my god couldn't disagree more. Wildlife running around everywhere, towns folk all over the place talking, doing their jobs, all kinds of stuff. Super wrong.
ZettaiSeigi
Member
Did a quick glance at the list and looks like there's no trophy based on finishing the game on a certain difficulty. That's good (for me at least).
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
I mean compared to halo and F.e.a.r? Nah.
Don't get me wrong, it's literally my favourite game world to-date.
But when a world is described as "living and breathing" i picture a sandbox. A world with lots of autonomous elements that interact with one another - world that creates itself as it moves along. GTA V, Watch Dogs 2, AC Syndicate, etc. Horizons sounds like this - but in over 130 hours in The Witcher 3 i think i saw about three emergent/dynamic encounters. That's monsters/humans fighting each other off the cuff/improvising.
As a pre-written/pre-designed world it's unbelievable but i wouldn't say being dynamic or "living abs breathing" is its strength. It gives that impression I guess.
Glad to hear Horizon's world is impressive.
MasterMenace
Member
No difficulty-specific trophies, quite interesting. Kinda bummed about that...
Jawbreaker
Member
Fuck. This game sounds even better than I imagined. I'll just jealously stalk this thread until it arrives. I'm going to be debating starting on hard or very hard.
My local store apparently isn't stocking it until launch day i wonder if a publisher found out about them. Their early release game has really collapsed.
Idk if i can justify buying Horizon with Switch and Zelda two days later.
See my other response above. It's incredible and i love it but it's all "hand drawn" rather than truly "living and breathing" which i take to mean dynamic and autonomous to a degree. Like, it's still a great illusion that is insanely convincing most of the time, but it is an illusion. The ai practically never do anything autonomous.
I think so. FEAR is one of my all time faves too. I played FEAR right after TLoU and honestly saw almost all the same behaviours. TLOU has some other super impressive stuff going on like locational directions and teamwork which even FEAR doesn't have. I've even had TLOU enemies use stealth on me, which was insane and slightly terrifying. (On Survivor difficulty. I mean like literally i'm minding my own business hunting folk then suddenly get grabbed from behind and the guy shouts "he's here!".)
This is excellent news. It means if you're not having fun you can change the difficulty without worrying. The way it should be.
i wonder if a publisher found out about them. Their early release game has really collapsed. Idk if i can justify buying Horizon with Switch and Zelda two days later.
See my other response above. It's incredible and i love it but it's all "hand drawn" rather than truly "living and breathing" which i take to mean dynamic and autonomous to a degree. Like, it's still a great illusion that is insanely convincing most of the time, but it is an illusion. The ai practically never do anything autonomous.
I think so. FEAR is one of my all time faves too. I played FEAR right after TLoU and honestly saw almost all the same behaviours. TLOU has some other super impressive stuff going on like locational directions and teamwork which even FEAR doesn't have. I've even had TLOU enemies use stealth on me, which was insane and slightly terrifying. (On Survivor difficulty. I mean like literally i'm minding my own business hunting folk then suddenly get grabbed from behind and the guy shouts "he's here!".)
This is excellent news. It means if you're not having fun you can change the difficulty without worrying. The way it should be.
ZettaiSeigi
Member
I think a lot of people are saying enemy AI in TLOU isn't impressive is because of the fact that enemies just go after Joel and ignore the others with him. It does affect the immersion but I'd still say it's one of the better enemy AIs I've seen in the single player campaigns I ever played. And yes, playing the game on higher difficulty makes the game better.
I understand that many aren't going to be happy with the lack of difficulty trophies, but I personally was never a fan of them in most games. I don't consider myself a trophy hunter by all means but I try to go for them when they're reasonable and doesn't require multiple playthroughs. So many games, so little time after all. I especially hated this in Kingdom Hearts 1.5 HD (dunno if the same applies in the subsequent remasters) when it requires you to play the game in ALL difficulty just to get the platinum. Why can't you just unlock everything after playing on the hardest difficulty, eh?
One of the players who has it said aiming and using the spear was pretty difficult and could've benefited from a lock on.
People seemed to be asking for that just in melee combat because the camera can be awkward.
Yeah, seriously, this is wrong. Yes, it doesn't have the best NPC's ever, and they are not as good as something like WD2's backstories for everyone, but it's still very much a lived in world.
Sounds like more people from a Killzone thread. NO AUTO AIM. WORST GAME EVER PLAYED GUYS.
Reason: I can't aim.
I'm so fucking sick of being coddled with shitty auto aim. SO SICK OF IT.
I really like that U4 even tells you that on Crushing you are using auto aim to beat it lol.