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Hotline Miami 2 |OT| Right Number
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MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Yep, that one.
Will probably rebuy it on PS4/Vita and beat it sometime
Good thing it goes to S now!
Permanently A
Junior Member
Whats the twist? seems like a melee only jacket to me
also holy shit I can't beat stronghold the big dudes are made of steel
After you kill 60-80% (forgetting) of the second floor, the laser/sniper kicks in. Basically you want to bait people to the south and AVOID windows so when the sniper kicks in, you can dodge the sniper's left/right by running across the windows when safe to the stairs.
Once you reach the first floor, go north and beat down a SWAT member. IIRC you can't execute them or kill them, but if you have a melee weapon you can knock them down for a moment. So, knock the one north, run left. Then run south to the car as quick as you can before the SWAT team actually floods in.
Once you reach the first floor, go north and beat down a SWAT member. IIRC you can't execute them or kill them, but if you have a melee weapon you can knock them down for a moment. So, knock the one north, run left. Then run south to the car as quick as you can before the SWAT team actually floods in.
The Writer/Journalist spoiler:
He's a pacifist and rewards HUGE points if you beat enemies down and don't execute them (but melee them with a melee weapon to take them out of the game) while picking up guns will remove ammo from the gun/make it useless and not able to be picked up for 1000 points.
HOWEVER the twist is: If you execute enough enemies by ground-pounding them with your fists, the Writer will change clothes and turn into HULK MODE: ON and then you can use guns to play the game like normal
HOWEVER the twist is: If you execute enough enemies by ground-pounding them with your fists, the Writer will change clothes and turn into HULK MODE: ON and then you can use guns to play the game like normal
Took me a while to figure out the twist, and then took me a while more to figure out the point gain, but once you do it's a really nice "twist" to the normal gameplay. Gonna be interesting to see Steam Workshop levels for that particular character.
Brian_FETO
Banned
(Mechanics spoilers, nothing story related)
He's all about disarming and not killing. When you down an enemy you hit them twice to get points (knocking them unconscious) It seems like if you do any more to kill them after that the screen starts going red like you're taking damage in a modern FPS or something lol. I assume either it's supposed to be him going insane or he just isn't supposed to be killing people
The Xtortionist
Member
Just beat it. I don't know what the fuck just happened. I need to lie down.
Favorite stages were Homicide
, Death Wish
, and Blood Money
.
Need to gather my thoughts on this one. I almost think it's unfair to compare it to the first because it's so different. And yet, the core gameplay is almost identical. It's a lot to digest...Hotline Miami 2 is certainly a unique game and a unique game sequel.
Favorite stages were Homicide
(first Alex and Ash mission...dat intro with the SUV, dat Sexualizer, dat chainsaw rev in the beginning!)
(mission with all four fans)
(the bank heist)
Need to gather my thoughts on this one. I almost think it's unfair to compare it to the first because it's so different. And yet, the core gameplay is almost identical. It's a lot to digest...Hotline Miami 2 is certainly a unique game and a unique game sequel.
Spainkiller
the man who sold the world
Loving this. It's a harder, crazier version of the first game; one of the few titles I had the patience for to actually Platinum.
I've drained my Vita battery in one go with this. Am currently stuck at level Death Wish, which is stupidly hard, but still had me addicted as fuck. Good stuff. The OST might even be better than the first game's, as well.
But yeah, glitchy as fuck. Dudes get stuck in doorways all the time. Shame.
I've drained my Vita battery in one go with this. Am currently stuck at level Death Wish, which is stupidly hard, but still had me addicted as fuck. Good stuff. The OST might even be better than the first game's, as well.
But yeah, glitchy as fuck. Dudes get stuck in doorways all the time. Shame.
Brian_FETO
Banned
Oooooooh shit I didn't know about the second part! Fuck yes
If you beat the shit out of one long enough, you can turn the lethal mode on.
But if you get off them before you completely kill them, I think it prolongs the lethal mode
But if you get off them before you completely kill them, I think it prolongs the lethal mode
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Think I might wait a week until some glitches get patched to continue. Might go back and beat 1 all the way.
Technoir is one of my favorite Pertubator songs so I was very happy when I heard it in game.
I think one of my favorite additions to this game is the weather that's used occasionally in some levels. The rain in the police station was a neat touch.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
I accidentally rewound on that level on the last area. Had to play the whole thing again. It's satisfying when you go through more quickly because you have a general solution instead of spending time figuring it out.
I'm on Act 3 now, this game is pretty damn good. So far it's very similar to the first game but that's a good thing. There's no need to dramatically change a near perfect formula. I am not going for A+ or anything so it's not been difficult yet but I guess the hard parts come later. I can't wait.
Spainkiller
the man who sold the world
I went through the first game without using some of the mechanics. Never used the lock-on. Hardly ever used the Look option, etc.
It's almost impossible to beat this game without using those things. A good thing, IMHO. It really feels like this was made for those who've finished the first game.
It's almost impossible to beat this game without using those things. A good thing, IMHO. It really feels like this was made for those who've finished the first game.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
Yeah you could play them back to back and have a pretty consistently rising difficulty curve, with a lull in the middle (i.e. the start of the second game)
I have not used lock on but I am definitely using Look a helluva lot more.
Permanently A
Junior Member
Yeah, the two main issues are that you simply can't see some enemies and get killed by them while they're offscreen, and that the levels heavily encourage baiting out enemies and piling up bodies at a chokepoint, a stark contrast to the first game's seamless brutality.
The Xtortionist
Member
I was surprised at how tactical the game became in its later stages. I found myself constantly baiting enemies around corners and taking them out when they rounded them. In the larger stages, I would methodically advance from cover to cover like it was some kind of military shooter.
This game, man. It's Hotline Miami...but it's not. Not saying that's good or bad, I mean...I can always replay the original if I want that experience. It's just so unexpected - like MGS2 levels of sequel fuckery, but on a gameplay design level.
This game, man. It's Hotline Miami...but it's not. Not saying that's good or bad, I mean...I can always replay the original if I want that experience. It's just so unexpected - like MGS2 levels of sequel fuckery, but on a gameplay design level.
donutzsick
Member
Beat first 2 levels and already liking the music more than hotline 1! 3rd level with the
is pretty tough so far
windows
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
You're gonna become really familiar with those.
Alright, I'm done for now at about scene 22. At this point, I basically have the same feelings as the PC Gamer review with regards to gameplay and none of the same feelings with regards to plot. It feels like the design of HM2 are at odds with the essentially unchanged combat systems of the original rather than being designed around its limitations. The story, graphics, and soundtrack are way way beyond my expectations though.
Yeah, and to make matters worse once you have a stack of bodies it becomes a nightmare trying to pick up the weapon you want since there will be 4+ weapons on the same spot and no way of knowing which one you'll get when you hit the right mouse button.
Yeah, and to make matters worse once you have a stack of bodies it becomes a nightmare trying to pick up the weapon you want since there will be 4+ weapons on the same spot and no way of knowing which one you'll get when you hit the right mouse button.
I sure hope you love windows
Spainkiller
the man who sold the world
Yeah, I'd like to echo these sentiments; this is definitely a different beast than its predecessor, partially because of the bigger levels. (That said, I never felt like the off-screen deaths were cheap. It felt like I didn't use Look well and often enough.) It pays off to play much more defensively, yeah, but I don't necessarily see that as a bad thing; it's just different from its predecessor's more amphetamine-like pace.
I like sequels that are the same, yet... not. [/NicolasCage]
I like sequels that are the same, yet... not. [/NicolasCage]
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
My rankings are all over the place.
I've gotten like A- on two levels I thought were difficult and C- through C+ on some I thought I did well on
The Xtortionist
Member
I was getting stomped in some of the bigger levels for a good while before I figured out that I really needed to pay attention to cover points and adopt a more methodical approach. There's plenty of hard cover pieces if you look for them.
3 is clearly the Wrong Number.....it's only the 2nd game.
The Xtortionist
Member
Also, HOT TIP FOR PLAYERS STRUGGLING WITH THE SOLDIER: Ammo only spawns at supply crates when your gun is empty.
Spainkiller
the man who sold the world
Yeah, cover is even more important this time around.
So is ammo management, by the way. The amount of times I died because I had JUST run out of shotgun ammo to kill a dog or black guy (... I did not intend to sound racist there) is... a lot.
Tainted
Member
The level design is certainly different...in the first each level was fairly confined with lots of small rooms.
I find in HM2, it encourages rambo-like charges through the levels, whereas in HM1, I could do many levels with just the knife / with stealth
...There were ammo crates? I just finished his missions....at least my knife did work
Permanently A
Junior Member
Really? How interesting, I had the opposite experience. In HM1 I can seamlessly glide through a level cutting shit up without stopping for a single breath. In HM2 its very stop and go. Go to safe point, survey area, bait enemies, kill them, move to next safe point. Throw in the occasional off-screen kill and you've got Hotline Miami 2's level design.
I agree. My time in HM2 has largely been spent figuring out where off-screen enemies are and going cover to cover to draw them out. HM1's level design and level size was such that you could run through, get a sense of your surroundings and react immediately. There's just too much shit in too much open space in 2 to do thst.
Wozzer
Member
Spent the entire night playing through levels, enjoying it more and more as I go.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5H3Hu2cq-I
I thought I made a mistake picking Tony and his glorious fists of fury the first level it's available when there was a lot of long corridor weapon encounters... but it was oh so right.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5H3Hu2cq-I
I thought I made a mistake picking Tony and his glorious fists of fury the first level it's available when there was a lot of long corridor weapon encounters... but it was oh so right.
Perspicacity
Banned
Fuck dogs, fuck windows, fuck fat people, fuck this game
I love this game
I love this game
Till yesterday I thought it is impossible to get A+ in HM1. Now iam rushing through and everything is fine. Do you need to get A+ in the Hard Mode?
Might want to add that you only replenish some ammo, and can only do so if you have the gun equipped. Not the knife.
TimeEffect
Member
Anyone really turned off by the redone controls? I can't even edit it properly because they bind two actions to the same button.
Apparently I can't drop a weapon without throwing it? When I pick up a new weapon, I throw the old one across the screen. Why?
Then there's accidentally rolling when using "X" to melee someone to death.
I can't seem to walk up behind someone while holding a weapon and stealth execute like I used to...
Am I remembering HM1 correctly? I feel like it was very different in HM1, and more sensible too
Also the pause screen is soooooooooo awesome!
Like, GOAT worthy
Apparently I can't drop a weapon without throwing it? When I pick up a new weapon, I throw the old one across the screen. Why?
Then there's accidentally rolling when using "X" to melee someone to death.
I can't seem to walk up behind someone while holding a weapon and stealth execute like I used to...
Am I remembering HM1 correctly? I feel like it was very different in HM1, and more sensible too
Also the pause screen is soooooooooo awesome!
Like, GOAT worthy
The Xtortionist
Member
Just normal.
These two things... wooooo, they've pissed me off countless times already. So bad.
But this...
Honestly, I haven't played enough yet to totally back this statement--but I think you're both right and you're both wrong. It might seem asshat of me to put it so lucidly, but honestly I think it's just a matter of getting good, adjusting to the pace, and memorizing placement. I remember when first played HM 1 I often resorted to the camping and baiting strategy when I got stuck or frustrated. I've had to resort to that again a little bit in HM 2 since it's so amped up. But I've also had some successes Rambo-ing goombas left and right. Also consider how different all the characters are and how the levels are designed each of their vocations, I'm sure that's certainly playing into it too. You see what I'm getting at?