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How do you justify traveling?

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RevenantKioku said:
With my stress levels I can't imagine me being much older and still alive, haha.
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Yeah, pretty sure you need a vacation.
 
RevenantKioku said:
I don't know what I can do, though. Going somewhere is stressful, taking time off from work is stressful (Doing it bothers me. I should/could have taken off Friday, but I am taking off 80 minutes to catch my train.) Hell, even a weekend is stressful because of the oncoming work week.
I need a complete reboot of standards and mindset, really.
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you need a mind vacation.....go and do mushrooms and then come back :lol
 
Rev, maybe donating your vacation money to someone who would enjoy a trip more but cannot afford it would put your mind at ease. ;)
 
im sure if he starts seeing a therapist they are only going to prescribe drugs that actually cause you more harm then good....take some shrooms or go smoke a lil weed and calm down. this is doctors orders right here.


OP????
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RevenantKioku said:
To be honest, if I was in your shoes I would find a trip somewhere immensely depressing. I would save my money to move out of the place if I hated it that much.
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This I can understand. I get bummed out whenever I come home to my lousy apartment after visiting my parents or my sister's family since they both have such nice, refreshing places in the country. It'd probably be hellish coming back from an actual trip!
 
RevenantKioku said:
I don't know what I can do, though. Going somewhere is stressful, taking time off from work is stressful (Doing it bothers me. I should/could have taken off Friday, but I am taking off 80 minutes to catch my train.) Hell, even a weekend is stressful because of the oncoming work week.
I need a complete reboot of standards and mindset, really.
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Okay, pretty sure you need a long vacation.

Or just try to be happy in the knowledge that all you need to be content is a bit of stability and the occasional Final Fantasy Ironman thread.
 
wenis said:
im sure if he starts seeing a therapist they are only going to prescribe drugs that actually cause you more harm then good....take some shrooms or go smoke a lil weed and calm down. this is doctors orders right here.


OP????
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:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
 
You don't need justification for a vacation if you think you want to go/need to have a vacation.


You do need the vacation.


LOOSEN UP BEFORE YOU BURN OUT TO CRISP
 
travelling brings some of the best experiences in life.

Money is earned so it may be spent on things you like.

1 + 1 = ?

If you 'save it all for a rainy day' that rainy day will be when you are old and have no experiences to look back on and smile.
 
I'm with you. Besides the costs, traveling makes all my efforts of low CO2 usage worthless, especially flights from Europe to Asia. :/
 
I'm sure it's been said before.

The experience. It's just mindblowing seeing things that you could never imagine.
 
I heard a comment once that has stuck with me. It was about spending $2,000 on something material, say, a new TV, or spending it on a trip abroad. A majority would actually find more value in the trip. Now I don't meant choosing between the two, but that people who had been on such a trip find it more valuable than those who have a $2,000 TV.

I wasn't much of a traveller then. It was just something that I thought about. Material possessions vs. memories.

Now that I am somewhat more travelled, I would never give up my memories of the trips I took for any material possession of the supposed same monetary value.
 
RevenantKioku said:
I would have to take off work to do an overnight bus, and I don't like the idea of doing that.
I'm coming from a little place in Nara prefecture. Even if I was able to overnight bus for the thing, that's ¥16,000 both ways, and we're still totaling over $300 for a weekend and that just seems maddening to me.
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If you are traveling on the weekend, the Seishun Mega Dream overnight bus from Osaka should be available for around 4000 Yen or less (one-way), they puts you at under 10,000 Yen round trip. You will probably have to reserve a seat ahead of time because the cheap seats fill up pretty quickly. Also, the earlier you reserve the cheaper the ticket is. I am pretty sure they have one at around 9pm and then another at around 11pm, so you should be able to make one of those. Even if you are coming from Nara, it is what, 800 - 1000 Yen or so to get to Osaka? It might be more depending on your area, but I doubt it's that much.

If you don't mind forgoing comfort and don't really need access to a hotel room during the day then you might want to look into spending your nights at internet cafes or in cheaper love hotels (there are plenty available in Shinjuku). Just store your loot in a locker and sleep in a net cafe where a shower is available. You can easily spend a night doing that for 2000 Yen or less. If you want a bit more comfort you can get a love hotel room for around 3000 Yen just for the night as well if you look around.

Unless you are planning on eating out with friends and going to Izakayas every night, you should be able to manage 1000 - 2000 Yen per day for food and drink so long as you don't mind eating at Matsuya or Yoshinoya or at convenience stores for every meal.

I've done the Tokyo <--> Osaka weekend trip dozens of times and if you don't care about being really comfortable for the whole trip you can get by with 20,000 - 30,000 Yen travel expenses.

In your second post you say that merely wanting to do something is hardly a justification, but I must disagree with you. Why would you do anything if you didn't want to?
 
300$ for transportation O_o Can't you loan a car for the weekend or something ? Or would that cost even more money ? I have no idea how much the gasoline costs in japan.

EDIT: is this thread new or old :lol
 
jesus.

in a few days, i'd have spent over $3100 to get to japan, hotels and transportation to hang out there for about 10 days.
i didn't even bat an eye (because we got a good deal) and my wife and i are going to enjoy ourselves greatly.
we're already planning to go to thailand again next year, and for the record we live in ontario, canada.

OP sounds like he just needs to stay at home for the rest of his life. seeing things in other places first hand isn't your thing, dude.

oh, and you think tokyo is a shithole? bangkok and manila will give you a heart attack, then!
 
RevenantKioku said:
I don't buy that shit for a second.
Going somewhere for a week doesn't get culture into your life. You may get a brief taste of it, but that's it. And "seeing wonderful things" doesn't do anything that a picture and a short description can't. People like to justify with this bullshit, but I've read about plenty of things and seeing them and being there didn't add a thing to me.
Living somewhere may do something, but a trip isn't going to cut it.
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So what you are saying is. Instead of trying to have sex with beautiful women, just don't bother because watching it on the internet is just the same?

Sorry, but seeing a picture of the castle in Prague and the charles bridge is not the same as going to it then walking back to town along the bridge. I won't forget that experience. But If I showed you a picture and told you about it, you'd forget it pretty quick.

we're already planning to go to thailand again next year, and for the record we live in ontario, canada.
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I'm going in 2 weeks. I'm going to fucking ride an elephant. AN ELEPHANT.
 
catfish said:
I'm going in 2 weeks. I'm going to fucking ride an elephant. AN ELEPHANT.
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awesome! we were gonna do that, but we didn't have enough time.. but last time i was there, we befriended these guys while on the beach in koh samet. smoked some shitty weed with them, but ended up eating thai food the way the thais eat it. had some beers, some good times, and they were fantastic single serving friends.

thailand is awesome.
 
Travel isn't for everyone. If it's such a pain in the ass to you, and you have such a hard time spending the money, don't do it.

Personally, I love to travel. Love to visit far off places and explore new cultures/histories. I'm into adventure travel in particular, and my trip to Africa last year cost over $6000. Worth every damn penny too.
 
RevenantKioku said:
I also believe it was karma destroying my iPhone my last night in Tokyo. Travel is bad and I am punished for doing bad things.
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Then stay home. It's better for you and it's better for your iPhone.
 
You're still young, travel while you can. A few years down the line you might crave for going on week ends and visiting places and not have the possibility due to obligations in you life.

DO IT DO IT.
 
RevenantKioku said:
I already did it. Don't feel any different or any more enlightened. I feel lighter, financially, though.

And "stay home" isn't really the only choice other than traveling, unless you mean "stay local". Which is a much more of a sensical and fulfilling choice.
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Okay. We all get it. You don't get anything out of travel. So "Stay Local" (if that makes you feel better) and don't lose any sleep about spending a lot of money going somewhere that you're not going to get anything out of. Travel isn't for everyone, and apparently you're one of those people.
 
RevenantKioku said:
I'm doing the math on this trip to Tokyo I am taking, and it is maddening.
$150 to get there
$120 for three nights of hotels
$150 to get back.
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What? That's cheap! If I were to go to Japan, USA, Australia, etc. I'd have to pay over $1000 for the ticket alone.
 
RevenantKioku said:
I think the thing here is you are all ignoring my obviously superior advice.
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And that advice is what? Not to travel? I wouldn't trade my travel experiences for anything. I've been to some truly amazing places. Like I said, it's not for everyone, and clearly it's not for you. If it stresses you out to travel, and dropping $500 is an issue for you, then yeah, you should just stay home. Er... stay local. Or something.
 
RevenantKioku said:
Except if my mindset yields you depression, yet more happiness for me, who is really at a loss here?
Sure, I may have issues, but at least I've realized traveling around isn't a solution.
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If it works for you, more power to you, dude. But I wouldn't say people were being demeaning -- they were just trying to get you to do something that gave them all happiness.
 
RevenantKioku said:
But I live here. It's like paying $500 to go five hours away. That straight up dumb, holmes.
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It's 450 bucks to fly to Tokyo from Seoul. :lol

I'll probably be headed there in December.
 
RevenantKioku said:
I think it's just how angry Yoda is.
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How am I angry? I simply said that we all get it that you don't like to travel. Why keep going on about it? You really didn't spend that much money or go all that far, and yet you make it sound like you went half-way round the world or something. The experience did nothing for you, and while the rest of us don't necessarily understand that, we respect it.

My point was if you don't like it, stay home, don't waste your money, and don't drone on about it in a thread on GAF.
 
RevenantKioku said:
Except if my mindset yields you depression, yet more happiness for me, who is really at a loss here?
Sure, I may have issues, but at least I've realized traveling around isn't a solution.
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From the guy who moved to Japan?
 
RevenantKioku said:
I'm doing the math on this trip to Tokyo I am taking, and it is maddening.
$150 to get there
$120 for three nights of hotels
$150 to get back.
That's JUST for the basics! Never mind getting around while I am there, food and drinks. Holy shit. That's going to push it to at least a $500~$600 weekend. A weekend! I have the money, but how can I even begin to justify spending that chunk of cash? It just seems so illogical to spend that kind of money on going somewhere temporarily.
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Whoa boy, you're living up the rich and famous lifestyle there.

I'm a complete and total cheap-skate. I can't justify spending a large sum of money on anything besides food and supplements.

I just made the exact same trip from Hokuriku for Wed-Fri for less then $130(About the cheapest I could get the trip down to without doing fun illegal things/ sleeping in the street/hitchhiking).

$10 - round-trip train fare to get myself to Toyama Station
$40 - bus leaving at midnight Wed From Toyama, got into Disneyland at 7:00 Thur(Osaka-Tokyo bus through same company is the same cost)
$6 Round trip Train Ticket for Disneyland to Makuhari
$15 - Price of the Avocados/Canned Tomatoes/ Protein Powder/dried fruit/Canned Beans/almonds that I brought along to give me calories and nutrition for the 3 days. (Packing before hand is Cheaper and far far healthier then eating at fast foods places)
$5 - All you can eat salad bar dinner at Big Boys right near Makuhari
$17 - 8 Hour Night Pack at the Internet Cafe at Makuhari(with shower)
$40 Cost of the bus trip back, Leaving at 10:30 P.M. on Friday Night getting me home at 7:00 A.M. Putting me into work on time at 10:00.

Total Cost - food: $113
Total cost with food(would have paid for anyway): $133.
Taking the Night vs Day Bus saved me $34 for 2 nights stay as the night bus was a place for me to sleep.
 
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