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[#Phonepunk#]

places I actually listen to like red letter media STILL say the sequels are better than the prequels! How?

yeah they really hate the prequels lol. oh well, i guess if we've learned everything, it's that every SW movie has someone who hates it. prequels, it will always be ok to hate them, but imo they are the most pure, uncut SW, which is too much for most people. Lucas nerding his nut out. RLM made their careers out of hating them, and there is that video of them hating the prequels years before, so it doesn't surprise me.

personally i always loved the prequels. all three, i love, i'm so glad they were made. AOTC is one of my top 3 SW movies. to me i think everyone is insane for hating them. but that's just me.

These films follow no logical conclusion. They make no sense to me whatsoever in terms of story progression or timelines or anything really!

exactly. destroying Starkiller Base meant nothing. it did not even rise people against the FO. no, that would interfere with Rian's great Luke story. so they just ignored Starkiller Base entirely.

Kylo Ren and Rey getting all romantic and into one another is really weird, given that one day before he "mind raped" her. what reason does she have for thinking he will come back? does she know everything about the Star Wars movies? the Reylo shit is nonsensical and gross and plants the demand for that infamous kiss.

Finn's whole journey makes no sense at all. people call him a coward, his "journey" was taken away and redone a second time by Rian. people say he was only ever helping Rey, that he had to "dedicate him to the resistance" (yuck! when did they get so fascist?). when the first thing he does is to leave the FO on his will alone, in response to the horror of the village massacre. i know everyone loves to forget this fact, but his decision to leave (and fight back) happened before he met Rey. it's just that Rian completely forgot about that, and didn't know how to write for him. so he shoved him off and gave him the worst suplot in the franchise.

 

[June]

It's subpar movie in a worthless trilogy that I appreciate for at least taking risks unlike TFA which was just bland and safe. The backlash this movie got that TFA somehow escaped baffles me. TFA was the film that ruined Star Wars, if anything, due to how it was so uninspired and set in motion the sequel trilogies faults from the beginning.

 

[stickkidsam]

Patronizing, pretentious, piss that was so interested in deconstructing archetypes that it forgot to build something to take its place.

Apparently Ryan Johnson is a pretty nice guy though so if I ever meet him I will simply ask that he eat old fudge.

 

[jackets with pockets]

How do I feel about it?

Well, I'll just say that there are only three Star Wars movies: A New Hope, The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi.

In the same vein as Die Hard 1-3 are the only movies in the series... or Terminator 1-2... or Indiana Jones 1-3... or Alien and Aliens... or Predator 1-2... or Lethal Weapon 1-3...

 

[#Phonepunk#]

The backlash this movie got that TFA somehow escaped baffles me. TFA was the film that ruined Star Wars, if anything, due to how it was so uninspired and set in motion the sequel trilogies faults from the beginning.

TFA was trash, but at least you could shut your mind off and enjoy it.

i don't think it was uninspired, JJ created many great new characters, Rey and Kylo Ren and Finn and BB-8 and even Maz all were cool decent SW-like characters. i thought they were nicely set up. not the best writing, no, but the second movie could take it to a good direction from there.

Canto Bight was not good. a slow motion traffic jam was not good. most of the characters stuck in one place for 2 hours is not good. are these really "inspired" choices?

Rian created Rose and Holdo in comparison to Rey/Ren/Finn/BB-8/Maz. he also only showed 1 new planet in the movie, which was just Hoth but with salt because Twitter. Rian utterly failed to create anything new or add to the mythos, instead he decided to destroy what little was new. TLJ as a result feels way less inspired.

 

[Ememee]

When I first watched TLJ I was neck deep in alcoholism, and the movie left me absolutely apathetic.

I watched it a second time a few months ago when it premiered on cable, and it frustrated me to a point I wished (ironically) I could take a shot.

I think “frustrating” is the best word for it.

 

[Entroyp]

What the fuck was that?... That was my first thought when walking out of the movie theater. Never watched it again.

 

[GAMETA]

who's Jedi? Is she hot?

 

[June]

TFA was trash, but at least you could shut your mind off and enjoy it.

i don't think it was uninspired, JJ created many great new characters, Rey and Kylo Ren and Finn and BB-8 and even Maz all were cool decent SW-like characters. i thought they were nicely set up. not the best writing, no, but the second movie could take it to a good direction from there.

Canto Bight was not good. a slow motion traffic jam was not good. most of the characters stuck in one place for 2 hours is not good. are these really "inspired" choices?

Rian created Rose and Holdo in comparison to Rey/Ren/Finn/BB-8/Maz. he also only showed 1 new planet in the movie, which was just Hoth but with salt because Twitter. Rian utterly failed to create anything new or add to the mythos, instead he decided to destroy what little was new. TLJ as a result feels way less inspired.

TFA is like the definition of uninspired. It's a rehash of an old film from the same franchise combined with modern blockbuster trends of ridiculously fast pacing and nothing but action set piece after action set piece. Characters like Finn and Maz existing don't change this fact (not sure why they would).

All you have to do besides watching the film is to look at Abrams history. His MO is to make the most shallow and safest blockbusters imaginable.

And don't mistake my post as a defense of TLJ. It's not. I never said TLJ was inspired. It's just that I would rather watch a chaotic trainwreck than stare at paint dry.

 

[Master Of Illusion]

AOTC is one of my top 3 SW movies.

Wow.

O... ok. That's an opinion.

 

[Halo is Back]

 

[Grinchy]

This movie was the beginning of the end of me going to theaters to see movies.

 

[kunonabi]

Wow.

O... ok. That's an opinion.

I'll do one better, it's my favorite SW movie.

 

[Master Of Illusion]

I'll do one better, it's my favorite SW movie.

So that's why Star Wars takes are so rancid on this site...

I'm enlightened.

 

[hariseldon]

Wow.

O... ok. That's an opinion.

It’s a valid one. I watched the prequels a few months ago having not loved them the first time round and honestly they’re brilliant. The love scenes are ropey no doubt but so much of the rest of it is brilliant, proper nerd-out Star Wars. And part of the love came from playing KOTOR 1 & 2 last year for the first time. It had the same vibe and made me really appreciate the location design (bearing in mind the new movies really fail on that front).

 

[Halo is Back]

It’s a valid one. I watched the prequels a few months ago having not loved them the first time round and honestly they’re brilliant. The love scenes are ropey no doubt but so much of the rest of it is brilliant, proper nerd-out Star Wars. And part of the love came from playing KOTOR 1 & 2 last year for the first time. It had the same vibe and made me really appreciate the location design (bearing in mind the new movies really fail on that front).

After the soulless cash grab of the Disney "trilogy" I have a new found respect for the prequels and George. In fact I feel pretty sorry for the guy getting so much hate for it when he just wanted to create the art he envisioned.

 

[Orpheum]

I actually hated The Force Awakens and The last Jedi. So much so i didn't bother to watch rise of skywalker.

I'm not the biggest Star Wars fan in general but watching the original trilogy and Episode 3 from the prequels is really fun on occasion. The sequels were just garbage, i'm sorry...

 

[Dazrael]

Attack of the Clones is quite a fun time, the subplot with Kenobi investigating the Clone Army is great. However...however the soppy love plot with Anakin and Padme really grinds the film to a halt. It’s a shame too as everything else is pretty on point, creaky dialogue notwithstanding.

 

[#Phonepunk#]

killing Snoke was a stylish thing to do but that scene gets way too much credit for being empty flash. it’s also a ripoff of the ROTJ throne room scene. for all the talk of this movie dating to do new things, his big most popular scene was still just ripping off ROTJ.

plus all the “Snoke doesn’t matter” backlash against “toxic fans” tremendously damaged the franchise. the reason people wanted to know where Snoke was from us that it would explain HOW the FO exists in the first place. people like Rian Johnson himself sneered at “dumb fan theories” and belittled the idea that there was anything interesting there. any hope of developing new dark side mythology through Snoke was ended when people kept dying he never mattered. that became another market demand to appease.

so really it put JJ in a corner. having to satisfy old fans but also the new TLJ loving blogger type who think Snoke isn’t important. JJ clowned on Snoke and showed him to be “an empty Emperor clone” largely as a nod to the TLJ fans who claimed as much. it also kind of justifies bringing him back, since both type of fans might enjoy the original far more than the clone. remember they are trying to appease as big an audience as possible.

 

[Moogle11]

I really enjoy it. My favorite of the new trilogy for sure. It’s no masterpiece film or anything, but I liked thst it didn’t just play it safe and have Luke be a bad ass and train and team up with Rey to take down Snoke and Kylo which is what I was expecting after TFA.

I also fully understand it has flaws various reasons many hate it. Not worth arguing over as movies are very much a just fo each their own thing. No one else hating it lessens my enjoyment of it, or should my liking it influence anyone else’s take on it.

 

[GymWolf]

more or less how i feel about hemorrhoids.

 

[NOLA_Gaffer]

Best Star Wars film outside of ESB.

Hell, I might like it more than ESB.

 

[Shodan09]

It's shite.

Everyone knows it, even the cast.

It gets star wars wrong.

 

[NeoGiffer]

 

[Shizumapower]

Rewatching... made it worse.

Finn and Rose literally help the First Order.


awww.

 

[Reptars Revenge]

The worst thing ever. I wrote my fan fiction of how I thought it should go a while back lol

How much better would episode 8 and 9 have been if instead of Finn and Rose going to a casino for half the movie they start trying to get the hacked codes for the star destroyer like normal but find out the star destroyer is already being remote monitored by an unknown entity that is also tracking their main ship.

They follow the trail through a couple fun planets, but end up on the planet the emperor is on and uncover that he’s been in control all along. While this is happening Rey and Kylo defeat Snoke but the emperor sends a signal to blow up the star destroyer and comes out of hiding as he has fully recovered.

Leia sensing her sons imminent demise as they try to escape in a pod ship from the explosion, reaches out and shields them with all her power as she passes away. Kylo and Rey land on an unhabited planet stranded.

Emperor may kill Rose awakening Finns force power. Still thinking about it.

 

[IDKFA]

Absolute dog shit.

Piss poor pacing, awkward jokes, incoherent story, plot holes my cat could see through......

.......I really disliked this film. Fucking blows my mind how highly it was rated with critics.

In fact, I pretty much dislike every Star Wars film put out by Disney except for Rogue One. That film was awesome!