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How is adamantium in specific Logan's claws so sharp?
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Finaika
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Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
The two don't necessarily go together. Tungsten carbide is far harder than glass but much more durable.
I think it's the Punch Dimension, which is doubly stupid since the most recent Secret Wars
Gentleman Jack
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The bone claws are puncturing weapons.
They have a sharp edge because of metal casting.
You know what I wonder, I wonder why this artist can't seem to render what a bone looks like.
'bones are made of tiny lumps of clay randomly pressed together, right? That's what makes them strong enough to support a long, thin structure, right?'
Didn't he get ripped in half by the Hulk once and get better? I don't read comics, but I remember seeing that somewhere.
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Yes, but that was also Ultimate universe.
He's had pretty much all of his tissue incinerated before, lol. I think I remember him regenerating from one drop of blood in an X-Men annual, lol.
The real question is why he only ever extends the claws while he's making a fist. If he kept an open palm, he could stab someone in the face and then his index finger would be free and perfectly positioned to boop his foe on the nose. Why settle for simple Victory when Total Domination is so easy to achieve?
More to the point, what happens if you bisect Wolverine. Wouldn't he grow back into two Logans? Or is there a limit to his healing factor thus getting around the issue (I know when he initially lost the adamantium after it got ripped out by Magneto he nearly died.)
This is the same issue with all "immortal" characters, though. Hell, I remember being in fourth grade really bothered by the question reading Tuck Everlasting.
Cyclops eyes have apertures into a dimension of pure kinetic energy. He essentially punches people with his eyes. Applying this logic, Wolverines cells must be tiny apertures to a dimension of meat, from which his body regains mass and blood after being all kinds of fucked up.
Is the meat dimension the same dimension all the Hulks and shapeshifters use.
Are there inhabitants in the dimension cyclops draws his power from? If so what impact does it have on their environment when he uses it?
Finaika
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that's how a fighter thinks.
he's a beast, and he fights like a beast.
he's the wolverine.
Is he more beast than Beast?
Nostremitus
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Yes.
i will accept this bean without hesitation
It would be kind of like this except Scott would be dead.
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
I like how the Valiant Comics reboot handled that. When important chunks get hacked off of Bloodshot less-vital parts of him waste away as the mass is reallocated. He has to eat meat to get back to full weight.
I believe Archons, Slaadi and Inevitables all reside in the Punch Dimension.
Septimus Prime
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It's like an epoxy. Keep the compounds separate and it's like putty, but once you mix them and let it cure, it's becomes hard.
Right. I added a bunch of joke qualifiers, but "and metal" isn't one, as metal isn't usually brittle. So what we have is a super hard, dense, metal that doesn't break or bend.
Angelus Errare
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Because if they wrote Wolverine to fight as they describe him and not make him basically be the measuring stick, he'd have very little "normal" (physically speaking) enemies who could beat him in a fist fight.
I mean you don't even need to think that far, the man swings around an extra 150lb of metal when he throws a bunch, and his bones are indestructible. Getting hit in the face with his fist should basically be cracking if not outright shattering your skull if you aren't enhanced in some way. Like wise, physiologically normal people should also be breaking bones every time they punch him in the face.
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SolarPowered
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Well, unlike a sword, shield or a gauntlet user he can't ever be disarmed (unless you rip his limbs off, I guess) since the claws are literally a part of his body.
He could literally do this forever.
We were having such a nice discussion until you ruined it
Prototype Viktor
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He enslaves them for more power for his eyes. That's why he needs to die
onken
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lol what is happening in that gif...
He's trying to get Gambit to come down a ladder. The less said the better.
PixelatedBookake
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I'm so glad somebody made an adamantium thread because I had a question pertaining to it. How is it that Logan, without his healing factor, will be killed by the adamantium poisoning his body, but Bullseye, who has adamantium coating his skull, has yet to be killed by adamantium poisoning?
lol, wolverine and his warm claws. god I reckon.
so his claws, in his body, are probably around body temperature. so maybe 99 degrees since he's a mutant and all.
Adamantium poisoning is unique to the film as far as I'm aware, and Bullseye escapes adamantium death by being back in the MCU. If anything, this doesn't bode well for X-23 in this universe considering how Logan was much older before getting the adamantium.
Subpar Spatula
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guys... it's a man who can survive being cut in half and we're wondering how he is able to cut metal in half?
i think we should be more worried about why wolverine doesn't create an army of him by cutting his body in half and letting it regenerate. he could populate the universe within a week. like... wouldn't that be your first goal?
i think we should be more worried about why wolverine doesn't create an army of him by cutting his body in half and letting it regenerate. he could populate the universe within a week. like... wouldn't that be your first goal?
Nah, it is in the comics as well. Logan's healing factor just keeps it in check. As Logan gets older, he heals a lot less effectively in part because of that. Without his healing factor, it kills him.
There is medication one can take to lessen the effects on the poisoning. Logan went on them last time he lost his powers.
And X-23 does not have anywhere near as much ademantium in her body. She will most likely be fine.
Mr.Shrugglesã
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The high healing factor of his skin and cells is basically a small scale versino of a blacksmith making a sword.
Adamantium i'm pretty sure is comic film not a movie thing so Bullseye should still be poisoned. According to wikipedia it's because the doctor who did it did something made sure he doesn't get poisoned. Not sure about that though. wait for Slayvern i get.
Hm. Odd. I admit I don't exclusively follow Wolverine's stories usually, but it must be a rather minimal plot point because I don't really recall hearing it before this movie.
There are pills to help mitigate the poisoning. Plus, Logan's issue is the sheer amount of adamantium he has.
PixelatedBookake
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X-23 only had adamantium on her claws, to be fair. I think that's also true in the movie but I'm not 100% sure.
It would need to be true otherwise she would have a hard time with puberty. Paradoxically, it would mean that she should not be nearly as strong as the movie portrays her to be,
"Intelligent virus from the microverse"
I love comics
cpp_is_king
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PixelatedBookake
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Wasn't the "intelligent microverse virus" happening the same time The Wolverine came out and Logan lost his healing factor? They don't usually try to sync up with the Fox movies but, then again, maybe it was used as a chance to kill the character for a while.
Ragnorok64
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I've always wondered how adumantium could[/] be poisonous. With as utterly indestructible as it is, shouldn't it be chemically non-reactive? Or else it'd be susceptible to acids and stuff.
BreezyLimbo
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Since mutant powers are bullshit, it's possible that the bone claws were a secondary mutation.
The Weapon X program figured out how to shape adamantium, and they figured that a mutant with healing power might survive getting veins of adamantium laced through their bones (they discovered that it would certainly kill a human, 100% of the time). But the adamantium bonding process is essentially just a near-ultimate shield. For a weapon, they created near-ultimate laser-sharpened spring loaded knives, which could be implanted into the subject's forearms for concealment (activated by I dunno).
After years of Wolverine's healing factor trying and failing to reject the adamantium, Magneto ripped all of it out, and the healing factor decided that it missed having claws, so it grew a new set of bone claws where none existed before.
It could also be that the laser-sharpened adamantium claws were created prior to the adamantium bonding process, and then the bone claws were surgically removed and replaced with their adamantium replacements. This would be an invasive procedure, but apparently not quite as invasive as the adamantium bonding procedure which pumped liquid adamantium into Wolverine's bones.
I don't think the comics used either of these explanations. The bone claw retcon was just a mess.
IIRC, they specifically mentioned any number of times that Wolverine's claws were "laser sharpened", like the technique advertised for razor blades, just prior to the adamantium setting and becoming permanent, resulting in Wolverine's claws being razor blades that can never dull.
Wolverine's healing factor is only active in one instance of Wolverine at any given time. If someone didn't stick the two pieces of Wolverine back together, the healing factor would pick one half of Wolverine to fully regenerate, and one half of Wolverine to die.
Which makes no sense considering that Deadpool is based on Wolverine's healing factor, and X-23 is a clone of Wolverine, but whatever. Comic books are bullshit. Wolverine bleeds all over things all the time, and yet he can regenerate his entire body from a single drop of blood.
BreezyLimbo
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I checked another video that involved a ruperts drop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrLfShIPYko
That thing left a fucking dent in the metal presser.
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