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How many here want Microsoft to leave console gaming and why?

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Monopoly would be the worst thing. Even we already have too few companies that looks like a cartel (that's why nextgen games will cost 70€ and Ms is waiting for PS4 price announcement to announce One's price). SEGA, Valve and Apple should join the party.
 
I'm not sure if I want them to leave, but perhaps their grip over the market has lead to the abundance of violent western shooters. I think Microsoft has been a major player in making that happen.
 
tassletine said:
I want them to leave because they make shoddy hardware and have terrible customer care.
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I have called all 3 over the years and for me it is

MS = Nintendo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sony

Maybe because I am in Canada but everytime I have had to call Sony it has been a fucking joke, I'm pretty sure their employees have no idea where Canada is
 
I only want them to leave if the Xbox One anti-used game/24 hours online requirement rumors are true. I loved the 360 as a console overall and I think that if it didn't exist then Sony would have been a lot lazier these past several years. Plus without Microsoft we wouldn't have some God-tier controllers.
 
I want both to succeed. Hell, I'd be happy even if ms manages to succeed more because of tv stuff than games despite my total lack of interest in tv.

However, I don't want success tied to anticonsumer action as it would only further embolden such behavior going forward. I don't want ms to fail, nor any console maker, but I do want them to have consumer interests in mind.
 
Dunlop said:
As opposed to Nintendo and Sony who bake me cookies when I power the consoles on
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Who charges you to play your games online for no other reason than to make an easy buck?

Who is implementing a new anti-consumer trade in program where everything must go through them?

Like I said, competition is good, but I make an exception with a company like Microsoft who only stands to introduce consumer gouging practices to the hobby. If I could snap my fingers and replace Microsoft with Sega I would.
 
BrbZrk said:
I and alot Sony and Nintendo gamers want them to leave cos i think it was better without M$. Like in the '90s. Sony and Nintendo are enough "competition" for the industry.
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You forget Sega also had it's hat in the ring during the 90s.

Three consoles is all the industry can truly sustain while being able to march forward with progress. Only by introducing a fourth console could we see one of the others drop out, and at this point it would likely be Sony before Microsoft.
 
I want them to find initial unsuccess with their BS policies, then watch them roll back their policies to be more in line with PS4 and then both succeed. That's what I want. I want MS's anti-consumer policies to be viewed as one of the biggest blunders ever in console gaming, and I want that failure to resonate so soundly that nobody attempts to pull that shit again.
 
I don't think anybody wants that (except for extreme fanboys). Is that the message that you got agter the conference? Cause i didn't see anyone say that.
MS is fucking things up. I rather see them not fuck things up.
 
I would like them to leave because I think the market is unhealthy right now and I think Microsoft has contributed, greatly, to that unhealthy state.
 
Sethos said:
You may dislike them and their console but why the hell would you want them to leave? It creates a competitive market. Competition = Good for consumers.
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Co-signed. Even though I dislike where they're taking the X1 and their policies in general, I feel they've done some good in the console space as far as online goes. I can't imagine where PSN's online and even the E-Shop would be if it weren't for Xbox Live.
 
I don't want them to stop making consoles. I just want them to make kinect optional on a hardware level and get their grubby hands off of used games.
 
I never liked M$ in this business, I don't like what they are try to push with this industry, so if they leave I would be happy.

As for competition, bring someone else that are interested in the gaming industry, not in the living room business.
 
No. I would never want microsoft to leave the console market. If they did, Sony would get drunk off their own hubris.

I still internally, Sony is one of the most arrogant and pig headed CE company in existance. Recent years have humbled them, but there is no proof they wouldnt go back to their old ways if they were on top.

I hope this generation humbles microsoft but i dont want them to leave gaming entirely. They are so entrenched in the industry now, leaving would take half the industry out with it. Nintendo and Sony alone are not enough to sustain the beast anymore.
 
I don't want them to leave. Them doing what they did this generation is why Sony is scrambling to appeal to every sort of developer and focusing on making games their priority. Without Microsoft (and Valves) "evil" Sony wouldn't be trying as hard to make themselves better.

You need competition or else no one tries anything risky.
 
smh at those who wants them leave. they're no sega but they contribute some great stuff in gaming over the years. they just need to drop their arrogance right now.
 
After all the dickish things they've atempted in the last few months in regards to next gen I absolutely want them to leave. It seems pretty clear what their vision is for gaming, and that isn't a vision I agree with. Just imagine a scenario where Sony is taken out of the market and all you have left is Nintendo and Microsoft with all the major 3rd parties ignoring Nintendo. You would be stuck with everything Microsoft wants (fuck the consumer in the ass) policy wise if you wanted to play the big 3rd party games.

I've been an Xbox guy since day 1, but it seems pretty clear where all this is going. Their goal is to eliminate Sony so they can implement all these anti consumer policies. I want to make sure that doesn't happen.
 
Sethos said:
You may dislike them and their console but why the hell would you want them to leave? It creates a competitive market. Competition = Good for consumers.
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Yes but they also try to push anti-consumer practices. They have enough resources to test those and make them an industry standard.
 
Their current insufferable arrogance and lies that fan-atics rush to defend notwithstanding, I don't support them leaving the market, at all. It is because of them Sony are chasing their roots now.
 
Don't want MS to leave the market. If nothing else, competition is good. I do not agree with what I've seen thus far from Microsoft but I'd rather they do something than nothing in the console space.
 
DR2K said:
No one wants to leave console gaming more than Microsoft.
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Yeah, sure. The same console gaming that created a premium service they could sell and produce a reliable and significant stream of revenue from, that is still doing them good to this day. They're just going to abandon it and hope people buy gold for Netflix and a second way to watch TV on top of their cable box. Makes sense.
 
rouken said:
smh at those who wants them leave. they're no sega but they contribute some great stuff in gaming over the years. they just need to drop their arrogance right now.
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Other than the online features, they haven't contributed much to gaming at all. Most of their good games were from third parties. Without third party contributions you would have Halo and Forza and that's about it.
 
no not really. MS have been driving the consoles forward especially with Xbox live, they forced sony to pull the finger out there arse and move towards multiplayer online gaming and actually have a decent online infrastructure which has been really good the last few years.

yea the dreamcast started the online stuff but ms pushed it really far forward with the original xbox and even more so with 360, and no one can fault them for that
 
I want the console market to grow to the point where there are a billion consoles sold every generation and $30 releases for games.
 
family_guy said:
Most of their good games were from third parties. Without third party contributions you would have Halo and Forza and that's about it.
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I dont know about you, but paying someone to create something is no less of a contribution than creating it yourself. Unless you can say those games would have existed without the cash Microsoft put up for them.
 
family_guy said:
Other than the online features, they haven't contributed much to gaming at all. Most of their good games were from third parties. Without third party contributions you would have Halo and Forza and that's about it.
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What has Nintebdo or Sony contributed? Move and the Wiimote?
 
I do and have repeated it more than once. The coming of Microsoft to the consoles scene is the biggest tragedy in video games since very very long.
Why? Because thme goal of Microsoft is to kill thme industry and kill the media. They demonstrate it every day.
 
family_guy said:
Other than the online features, they haven't contributed much to gaming at all. Most of their good games were from third parties. Without third party contributions you would have Halo and Forza and that's about it.
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Well, online features a kinda a big deal and laid the foundation for modern gaming and gaming services really. Also they pretty much perfected console controller design and pushed the importance of storage on consoles as well. Oh and they made the biggest push to date towards opening up consoles to be easier accessible to indies and pretty much set the groundwork and revolutionized digital distribution.

Games are subjective so I'm not making a counter argument there but they've had enough exclusives over the years to keep them in the game and keep gamers attached to their 360s.
 
I don't necessarily want them to leave video gaming... but I could absolutely live without them. I remember the time when the Xbox One (you know, the first Xbox) launched and I thought: "Who buys this ugly thing?" If you wanted PC games or PC architecture... well, then you better bought a PC.

Only thing I can see Microsoft contributing to the scene was online play, which they charge for (and I would never accept anyway). To be honest, I find it really strange people actually like the Xbox/360 with M$'s policies. Well, then again, Nintendo went casual-way with the Wii and the PS3 was 599$.

My biggest appreciation regarding company contribution to the industry still goes to Nintendo (although they've made terrible mistakes in the past and in the present).
 
What?!

Less competition is not good for customers. Crazy to think it would be. Do you guys remember PS2 online? And PSN online features for the new PS3? Forget about Nintendo.
 
It would be far better to see them humbled by a failed venture and then have them return to actually giving a damn by offering a friendly product that concentrates on gaming first, with none of the anti-consumer nonsense.
 
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