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How will the PS4 and Xbox 720 controllers look like?
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Melchiah
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No. Just no. If they'll ever do that, I'll either continue using the old PS3 controllers (if that's possible), or buy 3rd party controllers which feature properly positioned sticks.
Agreed. It's probably the best controller I've ever used. I would say fix the slow turn too though. That shit is annoying.
I'm giving a 50% chance at least one apes the Wii U tablet at some point. Hard to say which one.
I think MS will probably start next gen with a slightly updated Kinect plus a slightly updated controller. Sony will likely start with some sort of Dual Shock variant, I don't know how much a future they'll give Move though.
I think MS will probably start next gen with a slightly updated Kinect plus a slightly updated controller. Sony will likely start with some sort of Dual Shock variant, I don't know how much a future they'll give Move though.
better buttons, those convex ones are really shitty. plus front triggers are way too small.
What if that battery eventually goes bad.. you can actually open up those things and put in new rechargeable batteries.
warranty. or buy a replace one from ebay?
LowEndTorque
Member
If Sony goes with the same design again, it will be the ultimate facepalm of the forever. I will be sooo pissed. My PS3 is easily my most used console out of the three. But if it weren't for the Cross Battle Adapter 2.2 I would not be able to use it at all. Just the mere thought of putting the DS3 in my hands causes me to cringe.
The best controller design for PS4 would be just like the Move setup, but add a removable analog stick on the right-hand controller. Put a switch on there that allows you to toggle between pointer controls (for those of us who like them) and dual thumbstick controls for the old farts that hate pointer controls and only want thumbsticks. With both options available everyone should be happy. Add ports on the side where you can plug in an optional touch screen and you're all set.
For the 360, it already has pretty much perfect controller ergonomics. Just needs a proper d-pad, analog sticks that don't drift, pressure sensitive face buttons, better shoulder buttons. Grippy textured rubber or something on top of the triggers would be nice as well.
The best controller design for PS4 would be just like the Move setup, but add a removable analog stick on the right-hand controller. Put a switch on there that allows you to toggle between pointer controls (for those of us who like them) and dual thumbstick controls for the old farts that hate pointer controls and only want thumbsticks. With both options available everyone should be happy. Add ports on the side where you can plug in an optional touch screen and you're all set.
For the 360, it already has pretty much perfect controller ergonomics. Just needs a proper d-pad, analog sticks that don't drift, pressure sensitive face buttons, better shoulder buttons. Grippy textured rubber or something on top of the triggers would be nice as well.
So instead of easily using my own rechargable battery call Sony (not sure how that would go, haven't called since they laughed at me for calling about a broken ps2) or buy a new one? Howaboutno.gif
Uno Venova
Banned
I looked it up on youtube and yeah you can replace the battery if it goes bad, they're cheap on Amazon too. Personally I've had my controller for 3 years and it's showing no signs of going bad.
Still be cheaper to have detachable battery back that I can fix on my own. If they are built in then the controller is pretty much dead. Also I am sure the battery would fail soon as your warranty ran out..
. It usually takes a couple years but eventually all rechargeable batteries kick the bucket.flyinpiranha
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If they stay with the DS3 I'll probably skip the PS4 until it's super cheap. I can handle it for some games but I really have grown to dislike the controller, it's one of the main reasons I don't play many games on my PS3 besides the few exclusives that are must haves.
Fix the 360 d-pad and we're in business.
I think they should really look into how the sticks feel to be honest though, a little resistance is not a bad thing.
Fix the 360 d-pad and we're in business.
I think they should really look into how the sticks feel to be honest though, a little resistance is not a bad thing.
Uno Venova
Banned
How much is the detachable battery? because these ps3 battery replacements are in the single digits, and you'll only need to buy it once in a consoles lifetime...if at all.Still be cheaper to have detachable battery back that I can fix on my own. If they are built in then the controller is pretty much dead. Also I am sure the battery would fail soon as your warranty ran out..
From MS not cheap.. but you can buy higher quality rechargable batterys for cheaper to put in them.
I have had 2 packs go bad.. both were bought on 360s release though.
Sony really needs to get rid of the dual shock.
Someone needs to find a way to use the analog stick without cutting off access to at least one of the face buttons. MH3 on the Wiimote did this by placing the camera above a button, which is what gives me hope for the Wii U controller.
Someone needs to find a way to use the analog stick without cutting off access to at least one of the face buttons. MH3 on the Wiimote did this by placing the camera above a button, which is what gives me hope for the Wii U controller.
bigtroyjon
Member
AA batteries are used in numerous household devices. It's not a cost that is only attributed to a games console.
I guess my argument carries more weight then, because I've never had an ergonomics issues with the DS series. *shrugs* Different strokes for different folks.
Of course, I'm someone who finds the Xbox 360 controller to be a bit on the large side.
Unfortunately, they're garbage. I've had three of Microsoft's batteries, and every one of them has lost a lot of their capacity after only a few months. I finally broke down and bought Eneloops (for that and other things), so hopefully those will serve me better.
Proelite
Member
There should be long buttons / touch pads on the sides that you can press with the fingers wrapped around the controllers.
Two controllers for Halo.
One controller + Kinect for Fable / Halo Wars.
No controller for Dance Central.
Brilliant.
The split controller setup is perfect for Kinect and I would bet money that MS is going to do it.
BuggyDClown
Member
This. THis is what I have been saying since day one of Kinect. Just cut the fucking controller in half and it would make kinect gaming the greatest thing ever.
a Master Ninja
Member
When the PS3 first came out, the 3rd party controllers looked like DualShocks. Now every 3rd party PS3 controller on the market has the 360-style asymmetrical analog stick configuration. If shooters are the biggest games, and the mainstream is used to playing those with asymmetrical analog sticks, Sony should consider swapping the left stick and d-pad.
Microsoft just needs to iterate on that silver Pro controller. Make the d-pad a little better and the face buttons more comfortable. Maybe tweak the LB and RB. That and make the next version of Kinect like 10 times more precise if they want to keep going down that path.
Microsoft just needs to iterate on that silver Pro controller. Make the d-pad a little better and the face buttons more comfortable. Maybe tweak the LB and RB. That and make the next version of Kinect like 10 times more precise if they want to keep going down that path.
It makes a lot of sense, I'll admit.
Agreed.
The X360 controller is probably the main reason why I buy all multiplats for the X360. MS really nailed the design down. It's feels perfect in my man-hands. I don't even mind the battery pack placement, since the AA batteries give the controller a nice weight to it.
Sony needs to update their DS design, drastically. Better ergonomic design, better analog stick placement, and better triggers...and making it a tad larger would be great, too. I mean, the DS3 is ok, but Sony could do a lot better than sticking with their old design.
Don't know about the next Xbox, but this is the PS4 controller, exclusively for GAF:
There's PS4.
720 will look different, but I hope it doesn't deviate from the 360 controller too much. Better d-pad, but besides that, I love the 360 controller.
Uno Venova
Banned
I don't get your point.
bigtroyjon
Member
That's not surprising.
Many households already have rechargeable batteries without owning a gaming console or they spend some amount of money buying batteries. Having rechargeable batteries in the house saves people money in the long run.
Dr Zhivago
Member
The DualShock has become too iconic for Sony to change too much, I think. They might add something weird though, like a Vita-style touch panel.
AgentOtaku
Member
Don't know about the next Xbox, but this is the PS4 controller, exclusively for GAF:
As long as it's this
....like EXACTLY this, then I'll be happy ...well flip those "triggers"
Souldriver
Member
I don't get the love for the DS controller. Is it just because people are used to it? Because that thing sure feels cramped and unfitting compared to the Wiimote+nunchuck and especially the 360 controller. It's mainly the handles that rest in the palm of your hand that suck so hard.
Uno Venova
Banned
Ouch.
You are right rechargeable batteries do save money, which is why I would like it built into the next Xbox controller.
Melchiah
Member
Symmetrical sticks > asymmetrical sticks
Flat buttons > convex buttons
The size and form is perfect for my hands, and the D-pad is far better than the one in 360 controller. The only minus side is the lower shoulder buttons.
Noisepurge
Member
Don't know about the next Xbox, but this is the PS4 controller, exclusively for GAF:
Just toss in some Real Triggers and its done! Can't improve upon perfection!
Many people would have grown up with that controller, or are too....dedicated (for want of a better word) to see it's inferiority.
We're talking about a controller based on the SNES controller for fucks sake.
The Dualshock is lterally still using design, ergonomics and button/stick placement from the 90's and yet somehow we have people talking about how good it is. I know people have opinions and all, but this is the one instance where I think you can almost say it's wrong.
Sony simply don't have the balls to change it at this point, but hopefully being relegated to third place will kick them into action, especially now that crazy Ken is gone.
flat face buttons
sticks that don't drift after 3 months
make it so the bumpers and triggers can be pressed at the same time (maybe underneath on the handles?)
Melchiah
Member
I'm glad someone else had problems with that.
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
The best way to do this would actually be to make the analog sticks shorter, this would lower the amount of torque (as minimal as it already may be) your fingers apply to the analog sticks, which will allow for more precise movements and pitches. Naturally, the taller something is, the easier it is to topple it over - and the shorter something is, the harder it is for it topple over. A lower center of gravity would definitely create increased precision.
bigtroyjon
Member
Built in like the PS3 means you can't use them in other stuff around the house which is where the money saving part comes into play. There is no reason to ever prefer a proprietary format for a product when there is a cheaper, widely used format available.
It's like someone preferring the 360's original closed, overpriced memory cards compared to the open usb storage option we have today. Doesn't make any sense.
Why is having the analog sticks at differing heights natural? Playing 3D games, I'm assuming both thumbs are on either stick most of the time.
Granted, I don't really have a preference, but the argument that offset analog sticks is more "natural" makes no sense.
Built in like the PS3 means I don't have to buy any at all. My 360 batteries seemingly last forever as it is.
Like this.
Best controller ever.
Not even close. Terrible controller.
Sure it's functional, but it certainly doesn't feel very comfortable for extended gaming sessions.
NO NO NO NO
Here's hoping. You can't improve on perfection.