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How would the JLA handle Hickman's incursions?
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The Silver
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So like do the aliens in Marvel(Kree,Shiar,etc) know about the incursions? If I where them I'd band together to blow up earth once and for all, earth is always trouble.
The Kree and Shiar and about a hundred other races own Earth big after the Builder War.
Post Forever Evil, Lex Luthor has joined the Justice League to help them stop whatever destroyed Earth 3 (The Anti-Monitor) from doing the same thing to their Earth. Automatically they're better equipped to handle an incursion, because they can put their egos aside and ask for help. The Illuminati could've gone to Doctor Doom, but they were too proud to say 'we need help.'
Joy of DC Comics, superheroes and supervillains hate each other... but God-damn do they hate universal threats like Darkseid and Anti-Monitor more. Luthor and Sivanna alone fucked up shit in Final Crisis for Darkseid and company using whatever tech they could find while pretending to be captives.
Well anyone who uses the words 'prep time' doesn't read Batman comics.
LaunchpadMcQ
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I wasn't the one who brought him up, but that was most definitely a ComicVine joke - the idea that in character battles, Batman beats anyone with prep. lol
Sir_Crocodile
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Remember back during the crossover when the avengers were on dc-earth and cap was expecting everyone to hate them...and then instead they got mobbed for autographs because people were used to proper good guys
The Silver
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So, the universe is about to blow up, gratitude doesn't mean shit when facing death at any random moment.
force everyone to evacuate and then blow up the planet if they wanna be nice about it.
TheKaeptain
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That's because Lex Luthor is a god damn patriot and loves America and Earth more than Superman ever will.
Huh?
The New 52 Batman is all about the prep-time, the thing is his enemies know this and thus they strike him quickly and play on this. His latest arc revolves around the villain using Batman's prep-time against him by giving him a problem he can deal with then revealing a secondary problem he hadn't anticipated.
They owe the Earth for plenty more than that, but they would sell us out in a heartbeat if the truth was revealed.
SatoAilDarko
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This is basically the plot to Bokurano. Aka one of the saddest anime ever.
Though there children from each universe pilot mechs and fight each other to see with universe continues to exist.
Though there children from each universe pilot mechs and fight each other to see with universe continues to exist.
They also die after piloting the mech once.
Slayen - I know Doctor Doom does eventually play a part. My point is the JL would've gone to him sooner. The Illuminati's hubris and 'we can do this ourselves' is the reason they're in the shit. Doctor Doom should've been consulted immediately for such a problem by any team who'd put Earth above their own egos.
Remember when Starlord's dad was talking shit about the Avengers? And the Supreme Intelligence told him to sit his 5 dollar ass down before Cap made change?
flaxknuckles
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Doctor D should be the leader of the Avengers. They'd never have issues then. Everyone could just sit around eating ice cream and singing hymns about Doom
Don't reach into my brain and steal my story ideas...
Why do you think the Illuminati didn't want to tell anyone?
Yep, Strange just rocked the shit out of them.
TheKaeptain
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Lex's line of thinking is pretty much. Yeah shit's going down the only way to save my ass is by helping these assholes heroes.
GrandHarrier
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Nothing to be done about PIS.
To be fair, the rest of the Illuminati sans Black Panther and Black Bolt were getting completely demolished on the field.
Keep in mind that the Illuminati are not the Avengers. Additionally, Hulk had mental blocks in place. Most of the super-scientists in Marvel are not especially powerful.
Mr. Poolman
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So much for the avengers son
That image didn't make sense then, nor it does now. Throwing an orca on Namor is like throwing a feather to any of us.
On topic, the JLA doesn't stand a chance, this is why Hickman did their offshoots getting offed.
However, the JLA would die with dignity.
All JL would have to do is have Shazam turn back into Billy Batson and distract Doctor Strange while Cyborg teleported them both to Apokolips. Then Darkseid would fucking shred Strange.
What the hell are you smoking.
Presenting an example where JL would beat crazy Doctor Strange.
Mr. Poolman
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Are you aware of Strange's abilities?
But why would Strange be distracted?, he already had made his mind to obliterate the JLA and it whole world, its not like "Oh you are just a kid! I can't kill a kid", this was Dr Strange in no fucks given mode
Yes. I'm also aware that Strange has a BSOD in World War Hulk after he'd entered into CRAZY DEITY MODE and was thus taken down without fanfare. I figure if he sees he's about to kill a teenage orphan he'll freeze up, Cyborg takes him to Apokolips, and then Darkseid kills him for reasons.
ETA - Easy to give no fucks when you don't see what you're about to kill in front of you.
TheKaeptain
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Is firestorm allowed to be in this fight?
Only if Captain Atom is as well.
The Doctor Strange we're talking about was in the process of mudering a planet of 7 billion people, he's not going to give a fuck about Billy Batson.
Mr. Poolman
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Strange deals with the dread Dormammu, he can handle Darkseid (even if somehow Darkseid would help the League).
Strange killed the JLA, people are underestimating the kind of firepower the Avengers pack now.
TheKaeptain
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No he killed Hickman's lame attempt at the JLA.
It was 8 months to start with, the pace of the incursions has been steadily picking up as time passes. There was just one incursion immediately after another recently.
Strange was in the middle of killing 6 billion people, a fucking little kid won't stop him. Shit, the fact a little kid had the balls to try and challenge him is what set him off in the first place!
Because he didn't see what he was killing. I'm saying if he saw an orphan kid, he'd have doubt. And if he doesn't, he's beyond redemption.
That's just because Strange made a deal with not-cthulhu and the JLA lineup wasn't really prepared.
Had, say, the Spectre been present, things would have been different.
He did kill a kid right in front of him. There was a kid wearing the equivalent of Dr Fate's helmet and Strange just straight ethered him. He even took the kid's helmet off him first so he could see who he was going to kill.
Parallax
best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
identity crisis happened. cant say that anymore
You're constructing an asinine scenario built specifically to have Dr. Strange lose. You're starting from a conclusion and building a faulty premise around it. I could just as easily say Strange regains his composure in time to rip out the souls of the entire JLA and banish them to the long armed tentacles of Shuma-Gorath who will feast on their very existence until all reality ends.
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The fuck?
Well, okay. Doctor Strange wins. And they're going to have to work overdrive to make him even moderately capable of redemption.
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