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I don't think it would have been. All of the complaints thrown at the game would be complaints even if it was a new IP.

- Misogynistic story
- Terrible gameplay
- Terrible characters

the story and characters are bad if relatec to metroid. gameplay wise I really enjoyed it
 
If this game sells like gangbusters, I bet they'd take something like a fire emblem and let namco do a musou game for it.

Now THAT one I don't know how well it would sell as I personally have no ties to FE at all.

Fire emblem would be the perfect franchise, beyond a shadow of a doubt, for a Musou game. You could do 30 playable characters and not bat an eye.
 
Nah, Fire Emblem is too small of an IP.
Japan:

Awakening - 460,568
Between Two Worlds - 405,633

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The version of the Zelda main theme that plays Here might just be my favourite arrangement of the song, ever.

I don't think it would have been. All of the complaints thrown at the game would be complaints even if it was a new IP.

- Misogynistic story
- Terrible gameplay
- Terrible characters



Manthony Higgs was legit awesome. He should get his own damn series.
 
So Ghirahim/Zant got title cards, like the other playable characters, although seen from an NPC perspective. Shia, Wizro, and Valga didn't. Could mean they are playable, but it'd be odd to have those two as playable, but not the other 3.
 
This is what I thought.

Real talk, The character select screen they're showing is probably heroes only. In the final game, they'll probably have a button you press and all of those flip over and have the playable villians.

So we're looking at 13 heroes and 13 villains...less than I'd hoped but...I guess.

Keep in mind, we haven't seen sub bosses for villains yet either, or the inevitable scenario when Heroes have to fight Heroes.
 
Real talk, The character select screen they're showing is probably heroes only. In the final game, they'll probably have a button you press and all of those flip over and have the playable villians.

So we're looking at 13 heroes and 13 villains...less than I'd hoped but...I guess.

Keep in mind, we haven't seen sub bosses for villains yet either, or the inevitable scenario when Heroes have to fight Heroes.

Nice theory, and I think Ganondorf could introduce the mode with playable villains, and this is why we haven't seen him yet.
 
I have a really bad feeling that this game is getting too much hype. Especially on the character department. My disappointment will be palpable if the roster lacks Wind Waker and Majora's Mask characters - or if it is smaller than 40 characters, for that matter.

This is what happens when you put characters like Agitha in your game. It can only end in tears!
 
Nice theory, and I think Ganondorf could introduce the mode with playable villains, and this is why we haven't seen him yet.

TWIN
ROVA

Believe it.

I have a really bad feeling that this game is getting too much hype. Especially on the character department. My disappointment will be palpable if the roster lacks Wind Waker and Majora's Mask characters - or if it is smaller than 40 characters, for that matter.

This is what happens when you put characters like Agitha in your game. It can only end in tears!

I mean, who do you want from Wind Waker? Deku Scrubs are in the game already and the bird people never really stood out. Only one I would want is that version of Ganondorf with puppet ganon powers.

And I doubt we'll hit 40. I'd expect 32 max, 16 hero, 16 villian. I bet we'll get some form of skull kid though. or Vaati.

Beyond that, I think the real disappointment coming from the people who are getting the most hyped are the people who are forgetting that, at the end of the day, this is STILL just a musou game.
 
The people who live in the country of Hyrule are all Hyruleans.

She's a captain in Hyrule's army.

Hyrulean Captain.

Right. Hylian is a race.

In the Zelda franchise you have Humans, who are divided into Hylians, Gerudos, and humans that don't have pointy ears. Sheikah may be another race, or they may just be Hylians.
 
I mean, who do you want from Wind Waker? Deku Scrubs are in the game already and the bird people never really stood out. Only one I would want is that version of Ganondorf with puppet ganon powers.

And I doubt we'll hit 40. I'd expect 32 max, 16 hero, 16 villian. I bet we'll get some form of skull kid though. or Vaati.

Beyond that, I think the real disappointment coming from the people who are getting the most hyped are the people who are forgetting that, at the end of the day, this is STILL just a musou game.
Musou game or not, if they play their cards as well as they have been so far this game should be filled to the bursting with LoZ fanservice and, as a result, should make a lot of people very happy. Having a really big character roster would be a signficiant part of that, though, at least for me.

Wind Waker reps could easily include Tetra, King Hyrule, Medli (my personal most wanted character), Makar, and maybe even Beedle. Plus Wind Waker's two sequels have a handful of memorable characters that are practically mandatory to include, the top picks being Linebeck (Phantom Hourglass) and Byrne (Spirit Tracks).

32 characters wouldn't be terrible, but considering the sheer number of characters that Dynasty Warrior games usually come equipped with, as well as the sheer number of notable characters present in the Zelda series...

I guess, to me, what it comes down to is this: if there wasn't going to be a Really Really Big roster, they shouldn't have included OCs and minor characters like Agitha.
 
Musou game or not, if they play their cards as well as they have been so far this game should be filled to the bursting with LoZ fanservice and, as a result, should make a lot of people very happy. Having a really big character roster would be a signficiant part of that, though, at least for me.

Wind Waker reps could easily include Tetra, King Hyrule, Medli (my personal most wanted character), Makar, and maybe even Beedle. Plus Wind Waker's two sequels have a handful of memorable characters that are practically mandatory to include, the top picks being Linebeck (Phantom Hourglass) and Byrne (Spirit Tracks).

32 characters wouldn't be terrible, but considering the sheer number of characters that Dynasty Warrior games usually come equipped with, as well as the sheer number of notable characters present in the Zelda series...

I guess, to me, what it comes down to is this: if there wasn't going to be a Really Really Big roster, they shouldn't have included OCs and minor characters like Agitha.

This is my thoughts on the roster as well.

Were there original characters in the One Piece and Gundam musou games? If not, then I don;t see why they felt the need to add them to this game, especially when we have Zelda characters that could take their place.
 
Musou game or not, if they play their cards as well as they have been so far this game should be filled to the bursting with LoZ fanservice and, as a result, should make a lot of people very happy. Having a really big character roster would be a signficiant part of that, though, at least for me.

Wind Waker reps could easily include Tetra, King Hyrule, Medli (my personal most wanted character), Makar, and maybe even Beedle. Plus Wind Waker's two sequels have a handful of memorable characters that are practically mandatory to include, the top picks being Linebeck (Phantom Hourglass) and Byrne (Spirit Tracks).

32 characters wouldn't be terrible, but considering the sheer number of characters that Dynasty Warrior games usually come equipped with, as well as the sheer number of notable characters present in the Zelda series...

I guess, to me, what it comes down to is this: if there wasn't going to be a Really Really Big roster, they shouldn't have included OCs and minor characters like Agitha.

I think today's stream shows that Agatha was added to increase the game's Moe contingent.

I'll give you linebeck though, I always forget about him. But man, why do people want the king of red lions? He's the god damn boat and he doesn't do anything but lose. Same with Makar. I'd like a Tetra outfit for Zelda, but I don't need her being completely seperate, I doubt she'd play much differently than rapier Zelda anyway.

Well still need Groose, We still need Tingle, we still need one more person from OOT, but I think those will be the last 3 heroes revealed. And then it's all villains, starting with the 3 we know and then TWIN-MOTHERFUCKING-ROVA!

This is my thoughts on the roster as well.

Were there original characters in the One Piece and Gundam musou games? If not, then I don;t see why they felt the need to add them to this game, especially when we have Zelda characters that could take their place.

No, but you gotta remember, that first game had like, 17 character total. They did a bad job with it.
 
I mean if you are expecting a 40 playable roster in a first installment of a musou game of course you are going to end up disappointed.

The first One Piece Warriors had about 11 characters I think, The first Samurai Warriors had about 15.

I expected around 12-16 playable characters, and it seems we are going to hit that number.

They have to create all these movesets from scratch, so first, so there isn't going to be a lot of characters (could have been more if they had 1 weapon per character, but I think its fine this way). The OC is a weird decision (her deku stick weapon is even more baffling) but she seems to be the only playable OC, so its not that terrible.
 
I mean if you are expecting a 40 playable roster in a first installment of a musou game of course you are going to end up disappointed.

The first One Piece Warriors had about 11 characters I think, The first Samurai Warriors had about 15.

I expected around 12-16 playable characters, and it seems we are going to hit that number.

They have to create all these movesets from scratch, so first, so there isn't going to be a lot of characters (could have been more if they had 1 weapon per character, but I think its fine this way). The OC is a weird decision (her deku stick weapon is even more baffling) but she seems to be the only playable OC, so its not that terrible.

Like I said, if this game doesn't let you play as the villains, someone over at Bamco is fucking up. It's super wasteful to create movesets for enemies captains and then not use those movesets for playable characters. Nothing we've seen from any of the 6 revealed enemy characters seems so crazy that they couldn't be player controlled.
 
This is my thoughts on the roster as well.

Were there original characters in the One Piece and Gundam musou games? If not, then I don;t see why they felt the need to add them to this game, especially when we have Zelda characters that could take their place.

If you get technical, Link, Zelda, and Impa are original characters in this game as well. They are new iterations that just look like their namesakes in other games and the game follows an original Zelda story that uses time travel and dimension hopping to bring in locations and characters from past games.

If it were just a game where you relive classic moments from past Zelda games then you'd have a point, but as a new story it's well within its rights to create new characters.
 
Like I said, if this game doesn't let you play as the villains, someone over at Bamco is fucking up. It's super wasteful to create movesets for enemies captains and then not use those movesets for playable characters. Nothing we've seen from any of the 6 revealed enemy characters seems so crazy that they couldn't be player controlled.

If you can't play as the villains (and that's a big if), my bet would be that Nintendo fucked up and didn't allow it.
 
Like I said, if this game doesn't let you play as the villains, someone over at Bamco is fucking up. It's super wasteful to create movesets for enemies captains and then not use those movesets for playable characters. Nothing we've seen from any of the 6 revealed enemy characters seems so crazy that they couldn't be player controlled.

I do agree with that, it would be really odd to create movesets for those 6 and then don't have them playable. I assume that at the very least Ganondorf, Ghirahim, and Zant will be playable.
 
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