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I can't get over how bad Metal Gear Solid is
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Triforce141
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That just opens up even more arguments
Surface of Me
I'm not an NPC. And neither are we.
Just skip ahead to Ground Zeros to get on TPP hype train. GZ is where the gameplay became not only bearable, but exceptional.
Also, to actually discuss your points...
-The majority of the game has stealth, I don't know what you're talking about.
-The story does connect to the relating events. Remember that MGS1 isn't the first Metal Gear, and that the things we learn in MGS1 are very relevant to the rest of the series and the story of MGS 1.
-It's not correct to say snake is characterized only by surviving. There is a lot more to him as a character, even within MGS1. The fact you say that followed by saying he falls for Meryl shows that he is more than a person who only cares about surviving.
-The majority of the game has stealth, I don't know what you're talking about.
-The story does connect to the relating events. Remember that MGS1 isn't the first Metal Gear, and that the things we learn in MGS1 are very relevant to the rest of the series and the story of MGS 1.
-It's not correct to say snake is characterized only by surviving. There is a lot more to him as a character, even within MGS1. The fact you say that followed by saying he falls for Meryl shows that he is more than a person who only cares about surviving.
deltacanuckian
Member
This is why we can't have nice things.
It's nice of you to try to take some heat off of the OP, but I can see through your attempted rescue.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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I played MGS 1 a few years ago. Other than Street Fighter II Alpha 3, it is the only PS1 game that I have ever played. The attention to detail was stunning and I really enjoyed the story. The characters were great and each of them were fleshed out. Solid Snake is also just damn awesome. The game holds up really well, even with the ugly faces. I don't understand the complaint about the stealth.
MGS 2 is better in every conceivable way but if you if you truly hate MGS 1, then don't bother continuing with the other games. You should focus on rehabilitating yourself because you are fucking sick.
edit: Here are some resources that I strongly recommend.
http://www.cmha.ca/mental-health/find-help/
http://www.wrha.mb.ca/wave/2013/05/crisis-response-centre.php
http://www.vgh.mb.ca/hospital/mental-health.cfm
MGS 2 is better in every conceivable way but if you if you truly hate MGS 1, then don't bother continuing with the other games. You should focus on rehabilitating yourself because you are fucking sick.
edit: Here are some resources that I strongly recommend.
http://www.cmha.ca/mental-health/find-help/
http://www.wrha.mb.ca/wave/2013/05/crisis-response-centre.php
http://www.vgh.mb.ca/hospital/mental-health.cfm
This will start more shit than the OP.
tensuke
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~~you are also wrooong~~
loaf of bread
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This is every bit as bad as the OP. Twin Snakes sucked all the dicks.
SimpleGamer
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supernormal
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Well MGS1 is the most grounded one. It all goes super batshit crazy from there. I guess this series is not for you.
I do agree with a some of the stuff you say about the story and the dialogue, but I played the game as a 10 year old boy and it blew me away compared to what I'd seen in other games.
I do agree with a some of the stuff you say about the story and the dialogue, but I played the game as a 10 year old boy and it blew me away compared to what I'd seen in other games.
Did you start gaming yesterday?
Erm
This too. MGS1 is basically as old as I am, and when I played it a few years ago, I played it with the mindset of a PS1 game. You can't go into a game that's old with the expectations of the same things games have today.
RocketRacoon
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Junior'd
HomerSimpson-Man
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I know I said I won't bother, but I won't bother defending the game as it would be pointless for a person who feels it's the worse game they ever played to completion, I'll still be more diplomatic about it.
Do yourself a favor, stop playing the rest of the series. After that it's really all on you, don't force yourself to play something you don't enjoy at nearly every level and know you simply are not it's audience at all.
Do yourself a favor, stop playing the rest of the series. After that it's really all on you, don't force yourself to play something you don't enjoy at nearly every level and know you simply are not it's audience at all.
Peanut0423
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Someone help this man, he's hysterical.
RespectThySole
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You bought the Legacy collection so there's really no reason why you shouldn't at least try the other games. I'm not the biggest MGS fan either, but if this was the worst game you've played I doubt you've played very many.
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Deleted member 57681
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Subtle.
it was memorable at the time. i had fun with it. still, i subscribe to the opinion that the series as a whole is massively overrated.
people on here who will reply that you are wrong, trolling, or simply too small minded to enjoy the game should be ignored. especially those that have already said this series isn't for you. these people just want you to think as they do and have the exact same response to the exact same experience they had, which is ridiculous.
that said, i think you knew you weren't presenting a meaningful argument as to why you think the game is bad.
people on here who will reply that you are wrong, trolling, or simply too small minded to enjoy the game should be ignored. especially those that have already said this series isn't for you. these people just want you to think as they do and have the exact same response to the exact same experience they had, which is ridiculous.
that said, i think you knew you weren't presenting a meaningful argument as to why you think the game is bad.
Here's the angry letter FutureZombie knew he was bound to receive. The nub of what I intend to say here is that I frequently wish to tell FutureZombie that each passing day will bring more sharply into focus the need to comment on a phenomenon that has and will continue to condemn innocent people to death. But being a generally genteel person, however, I always bite my tongue. You might think this is all pretty funny now, but I doubt I'll hear you laughing if, quicker than you can double-check the spelling of anthropomorphotheist, he is successfully able to nourish noxious, parasitic ideologies. Fascism is the driving force behind his generalizations. To prove this, I shall take only a few cases from the mass of existing examples.
Let's look at the facts. First, there is a great temperamental and ideological divide between those who promote intolerance and paranoia and those who cast a gimlet eye on FutureZombie's sottises. Second, one could write several books on the subject of how one of these days, FutureZombie's poison will infect us, sicken us, and destroy us. And finally, when FutureZombie stated that we can change the truth if we don't like it the way it is, I concluded that he was entirely larcenous. Now that he claims that he serves as wisdom to the mighty and succor to the brave, I avouch that he's crossed the line into post-rationalist neo-Hegelianism. If he gets his way, none of us will be able to set the stage so that my next letter will begin from a new and much higher level of influence. Therefore, we must not let him etiolate his critics.
You should never forget the three most important facets of FutureZombie's compromises, namely their rebarbative origins, their internal contradictions, and their tendentious nature. FutureZombie's methods are much subtler now than ever before. FutureZombie is more adept at hidden mind control, and his techniques of social brainwash are much more appealingly streamlined and homogenized. Just as night follows day, he will undermine serious institutional and economic analyses and replace them with a diverting soap opera of simple-minded conspiracies before the year is over.
If FutureZombie thinks that he can make me drink the phthartic poison of denominationalism then he's barking up the wrong tree. He avouches that my bitterness at him is merely the latent projection of libidinal energy stemming from self-induced anguish. Sorry, but I have to call foul on that one. Last I checked, FutureZombie probably regrets stating publicly that anyone who dares to resolve a number of lingering problems can expect to suffer hair loss and tooth decay as a result. Although we can attribute that peccable comment to a bout of foot-in-mouth disease, I cannot promise not to be angry at FutureZombie. I do promise, however, to try to keep my anger under control, to keep it from leading meas it leads FutureZombieto palliate and excuse the atrocities of his yeomen. It is a statistical certainty that he is starved for attention, just as it is a statistical certainty that FutureZombie has been forcing his satellites to paint people of different races and cultures as iracund alien forces undermining the coherent national will. This is manifestly unacceptable as it victimizes not only FutureZombie's satellites (as mutinous as they may be) but all of us.
FutureZombie's apocrisiaries believe that FutureZombie can override nature. It should not be surprising that they believe this, however. As we all know, minds that have been so maimed that they believe that the most valuable skill one can have is the ability to lie convincingly can believe anything, especially if it's false.
FutureZombie hurts people wherever they may be, penthouse or poorhouse. I wish I could put it more delicately, but that would miss the point. After hearing about his damnable attempts to force onto us the degradation and ignominy that he is known to revel in, I was saddened. I was saddened that he has lowered himself to this level. To inform you of the grounds upon which I base my hijinks, I offer the following. Even people who disagree about core values can agree that his whitewash of the issue offers no real analysis of the situation that resulted in his officious plaints in the first place. As obvious as that may seem, it bears emphasizing, if only because it disturbs me that these goofy leguleians have so little tolerance for differing points of view. Do I blame society for this? No, I blame FutureZombie.
For the moment, I will concentrate on the fact that FutureZombie's support for freedom of speech extends only to those who agree with him. That is, he believes in free speech for me but not for thee. I guess that's not too surprising when one considers that FutureZombie plans to perpetuate misguided and questionable notions of other resentful knee-biters' intentions. What can you do about that? Start by reading about how all of the anxious sighing, longing, and hoping of FutureZombie's heart is directed to a time when sinful crumbums can encourage individuals to disregard other people, to become fully self-absorbed. Become informed about the deceit, lies, and propaganda surrounding his promotion of jujuism. Tell everyone you know that FutureZombie frequently avers his support of democracy and his love of freedom. But one need only look at what FutureZombie is doingas opposed to what he is sayingto understand his true aims.
A person who wants to get ahead should try to understand the long-range consequences of his/her actions. FutureZombie has never had that faculty. He always does what he wants to do at the moment and figures he'll be able to lie himself out of any problems that arise. At the risk of repeating myself, I must reiterate that we must bring a fresh perspective and new ideas to the current debate. Those who claim otherwise do so only to justify their own mawkish indiscretions.
FutureZombie was once confronted by someone who wanted to free people from the spell of teetotalism that he has cast over them. He responded by making us too confused, demoralized, and disunited to put up an effective opposition to his recommendations. Such a disproportionate response suggests a psyche in action, the mindset of a person who has nursed resentments for many years within the artificial haven of a homogeneous band of the worst sorts of bad-tempered tricksters I've ever seen. Regardless of what he seems to warrant, the suggestion that daft carousers are all inherently good, sensitive, creative, and inoffensive is wrong, absurd, and offensive. Nevertheless, FutureZombie's buddies like to suggest such things to distract attention from the truth, which is that if one believes statements like, FutureZombie defends the real needs of the working class, one is, in effect, supporting unsophisticated, aggressive pikers. Since most people oppose his devious, vainglorious stratagems, FutureZombie has had to promote a herd mentality over principled, individual thought using every neurotic means imaginable. His pledge not to get on my nerves is merely empty rhetoric, invoked on occasion for theatrical effect but otherwise studiously ignored.
Although FutureZombie has managed to avoid indictment, or even a consensus that he did anything illegal, he managed to convince a bunch of vapid, picayunish mobsters to help him make our country spiritually blind. What was the quid pro quo there? Before you answer, let me point out that he should unquestionably heed Cicero's advice, Appetitus rationi pareat. (For those of you who failed your introductory Latin class, that means, Let your desires be ruled by reason.) What is his current objective? As usual, there are multiple objectives:
*to offer hatred with a pseudo-intellectual gloss,
*to goad brain-damaged, spineless sad sacks into hurling epithets at his castigators, and
*to rebrand local churches as faith-based emporia teeming with impulse-buy items.
In summary, bloody-minded malefactors have a vision that some day they will poke and pry into every facet of our lives. And nobody expresses that vision with more clarity, conviction, and power than FutureZombie.
Let's look at the facts. First, there is a great temperamental and ideological divide between those who promote intolerance and paranoia and those who cast a gimlet eye on FutureZombie's sottises. Second, one could write several books on the subject of how one of these days, FutureZombie's poison will infect us, sicken us, and destroy us. And finally, when FutureZombie stated that we can change the truth if we don't like it the way it is, I concluded that he was entirely larcenous. Now that he claims that he serves as wisdom to the mighty and succor to the brave, I avouch that he's crossed the line into post-rationalist neo-Hegelianism. If he gets his way, none of us will be able to set the stage so that my next letter will begin from a new and much higher level of influence. Therefore, we must not let him etiolate his critics.
You should never forget the three most important facets of FutureZombie's compromises, namely their rebarbative origins, their internal contradictions, and their tendentious nature. FutureZombie's methods are much subtler now than ever before. FutureZombie is more adept at hidden mind control, and his techniques of social brainwash are much more appealingly streamlined and homogenized. Just as night follows day, he will undermine serious institutional and economic analyses and replace them with a diverting soap opera of simple-minded conspiracies before the year is over.
If FutureZombie thinks that he can make me drink the phthartic poison of denominationalism then he's barking up the wrong tree. He avouches that my bitterness at him is merely the latent projection of libidinal energy stemming from self-induced anguish. Sorry, but I have to call foul on that one. Last I checked, FutureZombie probably regrets stating publicly that anyone who dares to resolve a number of lingering problems can expect to suffer hair loss and tooth decay as a result. Although we can attribute that peccable comment to a bout of foot-in-mouth disease, I cannot promise not to be angry at FutureZombie. I do promise, however, to try to keep my anger under control, to keep it from leading meas it leads FutureZombieto palliate and excuse the atrocities of his yeomen. It is a statistical certainty that he is starved for attention, just as it is a statistical certainty that FutureZombie has been forcing his satellites to paint people of different races and cultures as iracund alien forces undermining the coherent national will. This is manifestly unacceptable as it victimizes not only FutureZombie's satellites (as mutinous as they may be) but all of us.
FutureZombie's apocrisiaries believe that FutureZombie can override nature. It should not be surprising that they believe this, however. As we all know, minds that have been so maimed that they believe that the most valuable skill one can have is the ability to lie convincingly can believe anything, especially if it's false.
FutureZombie hurts people wherever they may be, penthouse or poorhouse. I wish I could put it more delicately, but that would miss the point. After hearing about his damnable attempts to force onto us the degradation and ignominy that he is known to revel in, I was saddened. I was saddened that he has lowered himself to this level. To inform you of the grounds upon which I base my hijinks, I offer the following. Even people who disagree about core values can agree that his whitewash of the issue offers no real analysis of the situation that resulted in his officious plaints in the first place. As obvious as that may seem, it bears emphasizing, if only because it disturbs me that these goofy leguleians have so little tolerance for differing points of view. Do I blame society for this? No, I blame FutureZombie.
For the moment, I will concentrate on the fact that FutureZombie's support for freedom of speech extends only to those who agree with him. That is, he believes in free speech for me but not for thee. I guess that's not too surprising when one considers that FutureZombie plans to perpetuate misguided and questionable notions of other resentful knee-biters' intentions. What can you do about that? Start by reading about how all of the anxious sighing, longing, and hoping of FutureZombie's heart is directed to a time when sinful crumbums can encourage individuals to disregard other people, to become fully self-absorbed. Become informed about the deceit, lies, and propaganda surrounding his promotion of jujuism. Tell everyone you know that FutureZombie frequently avers his support of democracy and his love of freedom. But one need only look at what FutureZombie is doingas opposed to what he is sayingto understand his true aims.
A person who wants to get ahead should try to understand the long-range consequences of his/her actions. FutureZombie has never had that faculty. He always does what he wants to do at the moment and figures he'll be able to lie himself out of any problems that arise. At the risk of repeating myself, I must reiterate that we must bring a fresh perspective and new ideas to the current debate. Those who claim otherwise do so only to justify their own mawkish indiscretions.
FutureZombie was once confronted by someone who wanted to free people from the spell of teetotalism that he has cast over them. He responded by making us too confused, demoralized, and disunited to put up an effective opposition to his recommendations. Such a disproportionate response suggests a psyche in action, the mindset of a person who has nursed resentments for many years within the artificial haven of a homogeneous band of the worst sorts of bad-tempered tricksters I've ever seen. Regardless of what he seems to warrant, the suggestion that daft carousers are all inherently good, sensitive, creative, and inoffensive is wrong, absurd, and offensive. Nevertheless, FutureZombie's buddies like to suggest such things to distract attention from the truth, which is that if one believes statements like, FutureZombie defends the real needs of the working class, one is, in effect, supporting unsophisticated, aggressive pikers. Since most people oppose his devious, vainglorious stratagems, FutureZombie has had to promote a herd mentality over principled, individual thought using every neurotic means imaginable. His pledge not to get on my nerves is merely empty rhetoric, invoked on occasion for theatrical effect but otherwise studiously ignored.
Although FutureZombie has managed to avoid indictment, or even a consensus that he did anything illegal, he managed to convince a bunch of vapid, picayunish mobsters to help him make our country spiritually blind. What was the quid pro quo there? Before you answer, let me point out that he should unquestionably heed Cicero's advice, Appetitus rationi pareat. (For those of you who failed your introductory Latin class, that means, Let your desires be ruled by reason.) What is his current objective? As usual, there are multiple objectives:
*to offer hatred with a pseudo-intellectual gloss,
*to goad brain-damaged, spineless sad sacks into hurling epithets at his castigators, and
*to rebrand local churches as faith-based emporia teeming with impulse-buy items.
In summary, bloody-minded malefactors have a vision that some day they will poke and pry into every facet of our lives. And nobody expresses that vision with more clarity, conviction, and power than FutureZombie.
Basketball
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Altered Juice
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LMAO!!! i was just about to make a comment similar to this. it's 2 am where i am so i'll check out the shit storm tomorrow morning.
DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN!
bananafactory
Banned
What the fuck am I reading
IdreamofHIME
Member
What is this shit? Are you trying to be clever? Edgy? Ironic?
...is this a reference to something?
Your welcome to your opinon, as a Metal Gear fan I respect that it's not for everybody. And you even have the right to state it.
Not so sure the way you phrased the OP was anything but an attempt to troll GAF's pretty vocal MG community, so if you are being sincere and this is not a trolling attempt you might want edit into a more objective statement that doesn't just boil down to "thing sucks, prove me wrong" if you want any real constructive discussion, a lot of the community is not as levelheaded on the subject as those that have already posted.
Not so sure the way you phrased the OP was anything but an attempt to troll GAF's pretty vocal MG community, so if you are being sincere and this is not a trolling attempt you might want edit into a more objective statement that doesn't just boil down to "thing sucks, prove me wrong" if you want any real constructive discussion, a lot of the community is not as levelheaded on the subject as those that have already posted.
Cheat Code
Member
Makes blatant baiting OP.
Immediately fucks off.
Genius.
Immediately fucks off.
Genius.
This is true. The series isn't for everyone, and I certainly have a lot of issues with it.
But worst game some could have ever completed? Nah. Not even possible unless you've been gaming for like 8 years and don't play a lot of diverse titles.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Now I wanna experience MGS3 again. You lucky bastard, holding on to pure Gold and complaining about not being any better than a Brick other than its color.
ENVY.
Then again, don't play it. I don't want you defiling a masterpiece. Be gone, Zombie.
ENVY.
Then again, don't play it. I don't want you defiling a masterpiece. Be gone, Zombie.
FutureZombie
Banned
The game that got me into stealth was Splinter Cell Blacklist. Since then I've played Dishonored and the Arkham games. Nothing has topped Blacklist though in terms of pure stealth.
LegalEagleMike
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Quick OP, distract GAF with a pro Persona thread. It is the only way we will survive this!
EroticSushi
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He's competing for the worst post of all time in the worst thread gaming side has ever seen.
You mean that awful fanfic imitating MGS?
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