The movie is playing by Commando rules. The more of them there are the easier they are to kill and vice versa, the fewer heroes the harder they are to kill.
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I found London Has Fallen to be.... just incredible
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The movie is playing by Commando rules. The more of them there are the easier they are to kill and vice versa, the fewer heroes the harder they are to kill.
harvey dent for president
AngmarsKing701
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Movie was dumb fun.
They're really not. They're the most boring, shallow villains ever depicted. Compounded by the fact that the real-life motivations are linked to our overseas "jaunts". Like the drone strike at the beginning of the film.
SteveMeister
Hang out with Steve.
Yep. Just watch this sequence and throw the rest away.
I do not. But this movie is poorly written, poorly acted, has poor dialog and shit CG. There's a hint of comedy in just how over the top everything is, but they don't even cash in on that aspect well. It's like a fourteen year old wrote an essay on what would be a cool premise for a movie.
'Dumb' action movies can click with me when done right. This isn't one of those.
George Oscar Bluth II
Banned
Can he be trusted?
Razgriz-Specter
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I imagine this is how the British police were portrayed in the movie
There were no good British police/military really until the SAS showed up later.
Somehow the bad guys could also completely disguise themselves as American Delta Force teams within just a few hours of hearing the Americans secret plans.
He's a terrible President! In the first movie, he tells one of his cabinet members to just give up the nuclear codes! Actually, he might even do it twice, I don't remember, I just remember being oddly furious at him throughout that film.
London is Falling is awful. There's a part near the end where the good guy beats up the bad guy while also explaining to him why America is so wonderful. I'm all for some fine jingoism in my movies, but we as a society can do better than this.
It's also just poorly made. Every story beat is obvious and most of them were done better in the first movie (not a classic either, but competent), the action sequences are limp and uninteresting, and the SFX are mediocre.
Will be hard to top Air Force One though.
half the time
Harrison Ford's already made that movie. Get off his plane.
CopperPuppy
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Have not seen this movie. You're telling me this line is said unironically? By a protagonist?
Holy fuck.
TheGameshark
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"I don't know about you but I'm thirsty as fuck". lol I cringed pretty hard when he said that.
The most ironic thing is that this movie was directed by someone born in the Middle East.
Messofanego
Banned
This is the only thing I remember from seeing this movie, the rest is forgettable trash.
Forerunner
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It was alright. I enjoyed Olympus more.
They forgot to put in the good part in the so bad its good.
I just watched the movie for shits and giggles in response to this thread and never saw a one-shot action sequence, so I checked your link.
Yeah...I'm just eyeballing this, but there are a ton of editing transition points in this sequence, at least 6 or 7. Any time the camera snaps 180 degrees or a character sweeps across the frame point blank they could be stitching in another section of the sequence. No reason to think it was a true one-shot.
Anyway, Olympus was a fun Die Hard clone. It knows what it is and has some pretty solid shootouts and a fairly technical duel. Bannon's a one man army power fantasy but Olympus tries to earn it somewhat, at least. He uses tactics, takes advantage of his knowledge of the White House, and is one brutal son of a bitch.
London on the other hand is like a cartoon version of Olympus, and Olympus was already a cartoon. Bannon has the two MI6 agents *leave* just as they see the fake terrorist Delta team is assaulting their safe house so that he and the President can take them on alone while MI6 finds a mole? Bannon is either treasonously incompetent or too self-aware of his own plot armor.
Everyone's talked about the racism and jingoism plenty, so I'll highlight that the SAS gets zero respect from this film. This SAS squad and its captain arrive on the scene to pull Bannon off a live terrorist he's interrogating, yelling "HE'S DONE! HE'S DONE! Back off, take it easy!" The enemy combatant is still conscious and unsecured, so the SAS captain just endangered Bannon and everyone else there...to what, allow the terrorist to die more slowly with dignity? C'mon now. The SAS are some of the most hardcore SOF in the world. They're famous for their brutal efficiency and black humor in the face of death. One of the first things I read about them as a little kid was an SAS soldier advocating emptying entire magazines into downed combatants because 100% ensuring they're dead and not capable of shooting someone in your team is more important than, like, any pretense about your own humanity. in London Has Fallen, though, it's constantly, "Bannon, ye can't do that, mate, that's crazy!" Did the writers mix up SAS with SaaS?
^ Does SOF mean soldier of fortune?
The lengthy shot being stitched together to create the illusion of a long unbroken shot still feels wonderful/satisfying to watch. It definitely clearly has convenient spots that allow the real camera to "take a breather", like when Bannon is running along a catwalk on the side of the building before infiltrating it, and the camera zooms right into the bluish plastic side of the catwalk and we lose sight of Bannon. The camera pans right and Bannon conveniently reappears - clearly a spot where they can stitch together camera shots to create the illusion of a long shot. Still satisfying, even knowing the tricks.
I can't argue against the racism or jingoism. The action sequences did it for me - loved the camera work and nearly each explosion and fired bullet.
The lengthy shot being stitched together to create the illusion of a long unbroken shot still feels wonderful/satisfying to watch. It definitely clearly has convenient spots that allow the real camera to "take a breather", like when Bannon is running along a catwalk on the side of the building before infiltrating it, and the camera zooms right into the bluish plastic side of the catwalk and we lose sight of Bannon. The camera pans right and Bannon conveniently reappears - clearly a spot where they can stitch together camera shots to create the illusion of a long shot. Still satisfying, even knowing the tricks.
I can't argue against the racism or jingoism. The action sequences did it for me - loved the camera work and nearly each explosion and fired bullet.
I watch all kind of films and I'm open to the possibility to learn anything. what London has fallen has taught me is that I shouldn't hope for garbage movies to teach me anything at all. paradox!
True story: in 1998 7 accidents on main roads and two overheight trucks getting stuck in both north & southbound Blackwell crossing tunnels actually caused complete gridlock which turned the inner 8 boroughs into a car park for 5 hours.
Vermillion
Banned
I liked it, my girlfriend loved it.
Generic brainless action movie.
Generic brainless action movie.
SolidChamp
Banned
Holy shit is that a real quote?!
Things are about to get sporty? cheesus christ
SolidChamp
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I think films like John Wick, Dredd, The Raid, and Mad Max Fury Road have proven we can enjoy incredible action films without having our intelligence insulted.
Dreck like this "Fallen" crap is best served up at the bargain bin.
Dreck like this "Fallen" crap is best served up at the bargain bin.
Agreed. Those movies you named also have actual mis-en-scene where as this dreck doesn't even have a real identity, it's just "Shootem-up #3456".
Mighty Chin
Banned
Watching it again. Love it.
That first person shooter Street Shootout near the end was awesome.
That first person shooter Street Shootout near the end was awesome.
Mighty Chin
Banned
Why are you in this thread if you don't know that that is a quote?
Too low brow for you?
Frozenprince
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That whole movie plays like one long ass wet dream of the people that Trump got to vote for him, tbh.
Shit is jingoistic in the worst way. It's ridiculous in how offensively fucking racist it is too. Every brown person in London was a terrorist.
Shit is jingoistic in the worst way. It's ridiculous in how offensively fucking racist it is too. Every brown person in London was a terrorist.
Fox Mulder
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Frozenprince
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It suffers way too badly from what made the later Die Hard movies (with the exception of 3) so bad.
They turned him from a normal dude into a fucking superhero complete with mutant powers.
I imagine this is how the British police were portrayed in the movie
The SAS were actually the only SOF unit that had any sort of role to play. They ended up helping save the day while the American JSOC team was presumably captured/killed before even showing up.
It means Special Operations Force. SAS, SEALs, Delta, SASR, US Special Forces, etc. "Special Forces" in American SOF refers to only one unit (US Army Special Forces "Green Berets") so SOF is a more agnostic term to use.
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