The last 2 Nintendo Directs has thrown people for a loop.
I actually agree somewhat, but unfortunately these games need to be sold to the masses and brand recognition is important.
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I kinda hope the Mario popularity crashes soon
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The last 2 Nintendo Directs has thrown people for a loop.
I actually agree somewhat, but unfortunately these games need to be sold to the masses and brand recognition is important.
The Abominable Snowman
Member
Mario's still got a few genres and gameplay types to go through. And I will be there for every one, if not for mere curiosity
*Awaits Mario FPS*
*Awaits Mario FPS*
have you seen wreck it ralph? I think Mario is just like
, so it is not Nintendo's fault
Also Mario is the biggest charakter in gaming and is recognised by nearly everybody, his popularity won't stop in the next years and that is a good thing. The different Mario games are in different genres and I rather see Mario characters in Nintendo's sport games than some generic anime characters or unlicensed realistic players
Turbo
Also Mario is the biggest charakter in gaming and is recognised by nearly everybody, his popularity won't stop in the next years and that is a good thing. The different Mario games are in different genres and I rather see Mario characters in Nintendo's sport games than some generic anime characters or unlicensed realistic players
not bad. If people are that annoyed, just skip a generation and come back to Mario. Everyone else will be LOVING the games and playing the shit out of them.
As much of a joke-post this was. I actually find myself wondering why Nintendo haven't made a game starring toads. Love the little guys.
it's more the Sony fanboy style from the PSX days
even the blokes down at ps3forums don't say crap like this anymore
Couldn't have said it better... you really should reevaluate why you play games if you are so up in arms about Mario starring in these games, that you feel compelled to start a thread complaining about a character wearing a red cap
rosaceadude2112
Member
Some people believe aesthetics are an important part of the game, and tied to said game's quality. These people would rather new games establish their own identity and not have Poochy slapped onto everything.
I'm not up in arms tho, it would be nice for a change, that's all.
A Human Becoming
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Mr.Squirrel
Tom
The Nintendo Direct effect.
as long as
A) the games are consistently high quality
B) the releases of the "same" mario games are appropriately spaced out (9 years since last mario golf, 12 years since the original luigi's mansion, 4 years since the last mario+luigi RPG, etc)
C)nintendo continues to create and explore new gameplay, new characters, and new IP (look at their original 3ds e-shop content: pushmo/crashmo, dillon's rolling western, sakura samurai, tokyo crash mobs, ketzal's corridors, kerploosh, denpa men)
then they can continue creating mario games forever as far as I'm concerned.
I could understand getting burned out if say, 3D mario platformers were some annualized thing, but as long as they continue to be released once (or maybe twice if you're lucky, in the case of galaxy) in a platforms entire life cycle I'm still going to look forward to them.
A) the games are consistently high quality
B) the releases of the "same" mario games are appropriately spaced out (9 years since last mario golf, 12 years since the original luigi's mansion, 4 years since the last mario+luigi RPG, etc)
C)nintendo continues to create and explore new gameplay, new characters, and new IP (look at their original 3ds e-shop content: pushmo/crashmo, dillon's rolling western, sakura samurai, tokyo crash mobs, ketzal's corridors, kerploosh, denpa men)
then they can continue creating mario games forever as far as I'm concerned.
I could understand getting burned out if say, 3D mario platformers were some annualized thing, but as long as they continue to be released once (or maybe twice if you're lucky, in the case of galaxy) in a platforms entire life cycle I'm still going to look forward to them.
Games like
Mario RPG
Luigi's Mansion
Wario Ware
Mario Kart
could easily work with other characters and are unique experiences.
They are obviously using characters from the Mario universe to bring more attention to the games.
The only drawback is people accuse Nintendo of making too many Mario games....even though a game like Luigi's Mansion plays totally different than a Mario game (and was a new experience on Gamecube) just because it has a character from the Mario universe.
Someone sees the above list and lumps it as more Mario....when each gameplay experience is totally different.
Mario RPG
Luigi's Mansion
Wario Ware
Mario Kart
could easily work with other characters and are unique experiences.
They are obviously using characters from the Mario universe to bring more attention to the games.
The only drawback is people accuse Nintendo of making too many Mario games....even though a game like Luigi's Mansion plays totally different than a Mario game (and was a new experience on Gamecube) just because it has a character from the Mario universe.
Someone sees the above list and lumps it as more Mario....when each gameplay experience is totally different.
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Deleted member 125677
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lol. Sour about life. "I don't like this, no one else should have it."
GAF really needs to start reading threads, and not just the title and then jumping to conclusions.
Reminds me of my friend complaining about the overuse of Mario in the Gamecube days. Something about "tarnishing the brand" and how "the spin-offs affect the mainline Marios" in someway. I'll tell you what I told him, stop worrying about games you don't ever plan on buying or playing (whether it has Mario in it or not).
I do agree, in a way.
Hell, most Mario games recently released haven't even been up to standard. NSMB2 and NSMBU were stale, bland, and evidence of milking the franchise. Sticker Star... well, I don't even wanna know what happened to that one.
Mario Kart needs to become Nintendo Kart. I'd rather play as Link than a generic Koopa, and I'd rather race in Dreamland than generic Luigi Circuit no.9820283, but that's messing with Nintendo's stale formula, and god forbid that happens. I love the company, I really do, but they DO need a shake up.
Hell, most Mario games recently released haven't even been up to standard. NSMB2 and NSMBU were stale, bland, and evidence of milking the franchise. Sticker Star... well, I don't even wanna know what happened to that one.
Mario Kart needs to become Nintendo Kart. I'd rather play as Link than a generic Koopa, and I'd rather race in Dreamland than generic Luigi Circuit no.9820283, but that's messing with Nintendo's stale formula, and god forbid that happens. I love the company, I really do, but they DO need a shake up.
Zelda and Metroid have too much fictional baggage to just throw them into situations like golfing, go-karting, or self-referential comedic RPGs. Plus, sadly, Metroid as a property is not as bankable as we think it is.
That doesn't work
how many films star mickey in 1 year , how many bond films do we get. Mario appears in 2 to 3 games roughly 1-1.5 years.
Nintendo do rely too much on Mario. They're so scared of investing time and money in anything unless Mario is involved that the company is lacking new IPs and neglecting popular ones like F-Zero and Star Fox. Punch-Out Wii reached a million but when any old Mario game makes two or three times that at minimum will we likely see a PO sequel any time soon?
In the short run throwing Mario-related games out there regularly and raking in guaranteed cash is understandable from a business point of view. But when Mario is burned out and the other IPs are all but forgotten they could be in big trouble.
Did NSMB 2 and NSMB U need to come out in the same year? No. For Wii U it made sense, but 2 on 3DS was so strangely timed in the grand scheme of things. Why did we get about five Mario-titled games on 3DS before a single Luigi, Animal Crossing, Pokemon, Metroid, original Zelda, Kirby or Fire Emblem game? So much overkill. Now there's even more coming this year.
Mario is popular, I get it. My issue is with the spacing over a generation. I would like to see more non-Mario IPs released between the Mario titles. I'm a huge Mario fan but the thought of twenty titles featuring the plumber on Wii U and 3DS by next gen and not a single original entry from Wave Race, F-Zero or Star Fox is a depressing state of affairs.
In the short run throwing Mario-related games out there regularly and raking in guaranteed cash is understandable from a business point of view. But when Mario is burned out and the other IPs are all but forgotten they could be in big trouble.
Did NSMB 2 and NSMB U need to come out in the same year? No. For Wii U it made sense, but 2 on 3DS was so strangely timed in the grand scheme of things. Why did we get about five Mario-titled games on 3DS before a single Luigi, Animal Crossing, Pokemon, Metroid, original Zelda, Kirby or Fire Emblem game? So much overkill. Now there's even more coming this year.
Mario is popular, I get it. My issue is with the spacing over a generation. I would like to see more non-Mario IPs released between the Mario titles. I'm a huge Mario fan but the thought of twenty titles featuring the plumber on Wii U and 3DS by next gen and not a single original entry from Wave Race, F-Zero or Star Fox is a depressing state of affairs.
Games aren't films. Mario games come in different genres, from different developers, on different systems. Play only the games that interest you.
Also, do you people realize the people making these Mario games *might* not be the people in charge of a new Zelda or a new Metroid? We just got a new Fire Emblem and a new IP (Push/Crashmo) from Intelligent Systems, and that's a studio that already made a Mario game anyway.
maverick40
Junior Member
Me too, he is a stain on the industry.
Agreed. I think Nintendo is talented to create another branch of the extended Mario universe. They just have to want to.
Eh out of those games, I think Mario Kart has gotten stale but it doesn't matter because it sells and the general public doesn't mind. Like someone mentioned, it could very well be the aesthetics. I think they could benefit from create something else like a Wario Land or even Luigi's Masion to expand the universe.
What a hater, you are joking?
Steve Youngblood
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I can see tiring of the same old games, but focusing on just the Mario aspect strikes as a rather pointless observation. If, for instance, the problem is that I want Camelot to do something other than make a golf game I guess I can see that. If the problem is that it uses Mario characters instead of original designs -- with the implication that it suffers from being another Mario game -- then I don't really agree with the criticism.
vagabondarts
Member
What is wrong with GAF? Who are you people?
"Yeah!! lets play gears of War and Call of Duty forever! Screw Mario!"
Have you forgotten what good games are?
The most likely explanation is this place is getting flooded with 16 year olds who are out to prove how grown up they are by rejecting Nintendo games and playing ultra violent stuff.
"Yeah!! lets play gears of War and Call of Duty forever! Screw Mario!"
Have you forgotten what good games are?
The most likely explanation is this place is getting flooded with 16 year olds who are out to prove how grown up they are by rejecting Nintendo games and playing ultra violent stuff.
what i can't
VGChampion
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I don't agree. I don't think I would enjoy Paper Mario as much if they were all new characters.
This old argument falls apart when you see what happened with the Wii.
People seem unaware that Nintendo makes lots of non-Mario games, lots.