VeryGooster
Banned
Sometimes I think it's less "KILL MARIO ALREADY!" and more "Please stop making games with Mario in them and give us a new Mario game already."
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I kinda hope the Mario popularity crashes soon
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Sometimes I think it's less "KILL MARIO ALREADY!" and more "Please stop making games with Mario in them and give us a new Mario game already."
Aquamarine
Member
Mario saved the video game industry. You pay him some respect!
flyinpiranha
Member
NeoFAQs. It's happening.
vagabondarts
Member
Fun.
Not buy Nintendo machines or games?
qft!
That's working out.
Angry Fork
Member
I only want a real SM64 sequel, the other Mario stuff I don't care for. It would be nice if Nintendo tried to create new IPs or sequels to other characters that have with the same level of effort as Mario/Zelda games but eh. I stopped hoping for that at around 2010 when the best they could show was some side scroller nonsense priced at 50$.
One person not buying a nintendo console doesn't create an f-zero game.
One person not buying a nintendo console doesn't create an f-zero game.
ChosenPredator
Banned
I don't think there is anything wrong with mario but give some of the other characters some love too i mean if we're going all in Nintendo I'd like to see the other bros get some shine too ...no association with mario what so ever.
That is why i'm glad to see donkey kong
That is why i'm glad to see donkey kong
I think for the most part they do. Wario Land/Wario Ware has gotten many sequels. Luigi's Mansion, Mario & Luigi, Paper Mario, Yoshi's Island have gotten sequels too. Off the top of my head I think only Super Princess Peach, which I played and beat lol, hasnt had a sequel. I consider those unique titles and I would like to see more of those from Nintendo. Maybe even one that strays farther from these with a new character. It's just my opinion.
This thread is embarrassing to go through.
OP asks, like any rational person, for a company to provide new game concepts with a fresh set of characters and perhaps a new fascinating world, rather than spam the same world and characters onto everything.
We could still have our Mario platformers and Kart racing games every other year, but when a new game idea emerges, we could be introduced to a new world with new characters.
If Mario's popularity is holding them back from experimenting with original ideas, then I'll agree with the OP's extreme opinion and actually hope for a future without Mario.
OP asks, like any rational person, for a company to provide new game concepts with a fresh set of characters and perhaps a new fascinating world, rather than spam the same world and characters onto everything.
We could still have our Mario platformers and Kart racing games every other year, but when a new game idea emerges, we could be introduced to a new world with new characters.
If Mario's popularity is holding them back from experimenting with original ideas, then I'll agree with the OP's extreme opinion and actually hope for a future without Mario.
Lord_Byron28
Member
I don't see how making the exact same game just with different characters and setting would make the game better. If Nintendo has new gameplay/genre ideas that don't suit any particular franchise then sure I'm all for a new ip. If the point is just to have identical games with different characters I don't really see the point.
If anything it looks like one person not buying a Nintendo console creates more Mario games. ShockingAlberto was right, panic mode Nintendo just doubles down on Mario titles.
Lord_Byron28
Member
No, the op is asking for the same exact games as Nintendo now makes just with different characters.
Aquamarine
Member
Nintendo has even released another IP with their sports and party titles (Wii Sports, Wii Party).
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
I don't mind seeing Mario in Nintendo's light hearted sports titles and such, but I'd much rather see "Nintendo" characters. To me "Nintendo Kart" would be far more exciting than Mario Kart.
And why is asking for different characters, settings, and overall aesthetics wrong?
polyh3dron
Banned
Fascinating in that they would have to create some new characters and worlds, yes.
Because tons of people enjoy the characters, settings and aesthetics as they are, as show by numbers. There's literally no reason to change them.
Actually new IPs is a way to secure your future. We might see Mario as eternal, but it's not.
Duane Cunningham
Member
Well, far less people would play
-Poindexter's Mansion
-Tee'd Off Golf
-Johan and Billy RPG: The Dream Team
-Cooter and Jimbo's Attack of the Minis
SerOnionKnight
Neo Member
I need more Mario, less everything else.
lazer_bean
Member
i know someone who has a ps3 but he only (or mostly) plays COD on it.
it's become a joke between me and a friend that he doesnt own a ps3 but a COD machine.
i kind of feel the same way about mario and nintendo.
i never owned a nintendo console and havent played mario often (it was always fun though) but it amazes me that people always ask for more mario when there's so much mario already.
zelda doesnt come up so often so i think it's ok to keep it going if the overall quality of the game is still good
i dont own a nintendo console but if i had i think i'd be pissed to see mario so often
it's become a joke between me and a friend that he doesnt own a ps3 but a COD machine.
i kind of feel the same way about mario and nintendo.
i never owned a nintendo console and havent played mario often (it was always fun though) but it amazes me that people always ask for more mario when there's so much mario already.
zelda doesnt come up so often so i think it's ok to keep it going if the overall quality of the game is still good
i dont own a nintendo console but if i had i think i'd be pissed to see mario so often
anotherVegan
Member
Mario is here to stay. Forever.
New IPs are also not eternal, nor guaranteed to work. Nintendo -does- in fact create new IPs, but understandably isn't shy on using Mario as a mascot if it works. And it works.
SneakyStephan
Banned
I hate the mario aestethics too but at least they still make platformers:\
One thing the 2005 gen lacks sorely is platformers...
One thing the 2005 gen lacks sorely is platformers...
I think that's a bit extreme. If there a new platformer/adventure concept they want to try and it doesn't quite Mario and it's too different for Metroid they should make a new character for it imo.
I think the gripe could be that some of those other IP will never be as consistent in their releases as a Mario featured game. Unless you're including Fire Emblem, Pokemon, etc.
The last Mario Golf game was released in 2004. No, RPGs, platformers or racers developed by different studios don't count as Mario Golf games.
slightconfuse
Banned
just stop shoving him evrywhere. the mainline games ae good put do we need 1 million mario party/sports games.
would like to see some new concepts/IPs out of nintendo though
would like to see some new concepts/IPs out of nintendo though
Doctor Decimate
Member
did you actually play Paper Mario? the Mario part is half the appeal.
He's been around in one form or another for 32 years and counting.
I wouldn't hold my breath.
They make new IPs all the time.
I wouldn't hold my breath.
They make new IPs all the time.
GenericUser
Member
I love mario games.
What's your point? Luigi is part of the Mario universe.
Of course. Far less people play games that don't have "Call of Duty" on the cover. Nintendo does what it does to maintain a business model and we have every right to criticize the effects their decisions had on the final product.
Steve Youngblood
Member
How did that one sell? Did it benefit from not having Mario?
Their effects being "OMG it has a virtual plumber in it
".PedroPanache
Member
Nintendo are no longer in the position where they can leverage the Mario franchise at their own leisure. They pretty much have to put these games out on a consistent basis, because their legacy franchises are probably the only things that are keeping them in the business of manufacturing consoles. One of the reasons why I considered Mario to be superior to the Sonic games was that a Mario release seemed so much more special, if only because Nintendo understood the value of less is more; they always seemed to leave us wanting more during the NES-N64 era.
However, they can't afford to do this anymore, so we get New Super Mario Bros. across all Nintendo platforms; they're easy games to make, they'll get decent reviews and sell well enough, but I do wonder if it diminishes the specialness of the Mario brand. I consider Super Mario World to be the best 2D platformer ever made, but I wonder if it would have lost something if Nintendo had repeated the formula another 2 or 3 times during the SNES era. Part of what made Mario World so special was that Nintendo never properly followed it up during the SNES era, instead offering up something a little more leftfield in Yoshi's Island.
I don't think Zelda is as over exposed as Mario is, the Zelda games still retain that special allure, because typically they're not games you can develop over a short period of time. Sure, they stick to a formula, but they're still huge events, despite the series mixed fortunes over the last few years.
However, they can't afford to do this anymore, so we get New Super Mario Bros. across all Nintendo platforms; they're easy games to make, they'll get decent reviews and sell well enough, but I do wonder if it diminishes the specialness of the Mario brand. I consider Super Mario World to be the best 2D platformer ever made, but I wonder if it would have lost something if Nintendo had repeated the formula another 2 or 3 times during the SNES era. Part of what made Mario World so special was that Nintendo never properly followed it up during the SNES era, instead offering up something a little more leftfield in Yoshi's Island.
I don't think Zelda is as over exposed as Mario is, the Zelda games still retain that special allure, because typically they're not games you can develop over a short period of time. Sure, they stick to a formula, but they're still huge events, despite the series mixed fortunes over the last few years.
Aquamarine
Member
We don't have concrete numbers, but according to Capcom, they were "sluggish."
Aaron Strife
Banned
I feel like the want of new IPs is somewhat arbitrary. Mario's universe fits all his spin-off games like a glove - if they released New Super Mario Bros. but with a bunny instead of Mario, it wouldn't suddenly be a pinnacle of originality, and Nintendo is going to make those games anyway because they're good at them.
The only Mario on 3DS that felt uninspired thus far was NSMB2, which I still had fun with on its own merits. Bring on Year of Luigi. New Super Luigi U in particularly looks awesome.
The only Mario on 3DS that felt uninspired thus far was NSMB2, which I still had fun with on its own merits. Bring on Year of Luigi. New Super Luigi U in particularly looks awesome.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
It's all about Luigi now.
TalesOfWin
Banned
umm I hope it is just you. I hold Zelda as a much more interesting franchise than Mario.