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I let my neighbor use my WiFi

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It doesn't have to be that complicated.

I would just knock on the neighbour's door and ask how much longer till their internet is installed. Explain that you don't mind helping out, but you have monthly caps and that you routinely go over the cap yourself, and cannot afford to have a "guest" for an extended period of time.
 
Jesus, reading through this thread is making me think I couldn't be friends with any of y'all. It's just WiFi people, anybody really nefarious would probably just hack it. Only thing I'd have done differently is tell him I'll change the password after (insert time you think is appropriate here).
 
It's socially inept to suspect your new neighbor of being a child porn addict when telling him he can't use your wifi as he just moves in.

My analogy works. Yours is laughable. Giving someone access to my wifi is not like giving open access to my house. Not even close.

Suspecting my new neighbor of using my wifi in a nefarious manner is just like suspecting my neighbor of using anything I lend him in a nefarious manner.

Look, I get it. You don't give people the benefit of the doubt and I do.
I disagree that it's socially inept to expect a level of control with regard to your resources. I do however see it as socially inept with respect to the inability to communicate what you believe your control level should be. OP regrets giving out access to his resources (WIFI). Nowhere did I suggest he WILL be downloading child pornography, I presented an example case of liability you have as the owner of the network and things that may occur as the administrator of that network.

How is access to your computer network not comparable to physical access to your home? What kind of hardware do you have connected to your network? IP cameras? Laptops? Computers? These are all physical resources.

Nice of you to generalize and say I don't give people the benefit of the doubt. Give the OP another read, he regrets giving access to his resources. It's not a character flaw to want authority over access to your resources and prevent possible abuse - he is the one liable for all activity after all.
 
Jesus, reading through this thread is making me think I couldn't be friends with any of y'all. It's just WiFi people, anybody really nefarious would probably just hack it. Only thing I'd have done differently is tell him I'll change the password after (insert time you think is appropriate here).
Again.

A lot of people have caps, a lot of people can barely keep under those caps just by themselves. If i was graced by the gods and have unlimited bandwidth i would be way more lenient but considering i always hit right under the cap i can't afford to have some shit bird push me over the cap because he likes cat videos on youtube or wants to watch real housewives of whatever on hulu.
 
I disagree that it's socially inept to expect a level of control with regard to your resources. I do however see it as socially inept with respect to the inability to communicate what you believe your control level should be. OP regrets giving out access to his resources (WIFI). Nowhere did I suggest he WILL be downloading child pornography, I presented an example case of liability you have as the owner of the network and things that may occur as the administrator of that network.

How is access to your computer network not comparable to physical access to your home? What kind of hardware do you have connected to your network? IP cameras? Laptops? Computers? These are all physical resources.

Nice of you to generalize and say I don't give people the benefit of the doubt. Give the OP another read, he regrets giving access to his resources. It's not a character flaw to want authority over access to your resources and prevent possible abuse - he is the one liable for all activity after all.

If you can't see the difference between giving open access to ones house vs their wifi, there's no point in continuing this conversation.

Notice how i never said i don't allow friends?

Eyeballs, use them.

Most people place higher value and trust in family rather than friends. Jesus Christ.
 
Again.

A lot of people have caps, a lot of people can barely keep under those caps just by themselves. If i was graced by the gods and have unlimited bandwidth i would be way more lenient but considering i always hit right under the cap i can't afford to have some shit bird push me over the cap because he likes cat videos on youtube or wants to watch real housewives of whatever on hulu.

Like someone else mentioned here, it's an unwritten rule not to abuse someone else's internet when you're borrowing it for a few days. If this person is actually abusing it you can always talk to him/her or just change the password.
 
It really is socially inept to freak out about your new neighbor who moves in and probably asked verbatim: "hey I'm Jim blah blah blah I'm your new neighbor, would you mind if I use your wifi until monday when the cable guys set up my place?"

Reality check: The people that say No, or who automatically assume the worst in people in the face of rationality, or those who deny their family members use of their wifi (so personal), are those who sit in their deathbed unhappy, unfulfilled, and alone. No one gives a fuck what you do on your wireless internet.. do you realize how many routers and modems get hacked for illegal shit all the time? You think the majority of clueless dumbfucks who dont know how secure their internet signal get sent to jail because of the millions of people every day who leech off them?? get real
 
Like someone else mentioned here, it's an unwritten rule not to abuse someone else's internet when you're borrowing it for a few days. If this person is actually abusing it you can always talk to him/her or just change the password.

Unwritten rule my ass. People will push it as far as they can if left unchecked.
 
That dudes is ballsy. So he's probably looking at kid balls. Change your password before you get in trouble.
 
I let my neighbors use my WiFi if there's trouble with their ISP or whatever. In return, I'd expect them to do the same for me and they do. Basic etiquette demands that you don't use someone else's wifi for P2P stuff or extensive video streaming. I could turn on QoS if I was really concerned. I also share my WiFi with anyone who visits. I really don't think intense paranoia about the fear that your neighbor is a secret sex criminal is a very charitable way to approach someone.

I think the best way to deal with it would be to change your password after a few weeks if it seems like he's still using it instead of getting his own internet connection.

Are you suggesting that we treat others how we like to be treated? That will never work!
 
Same thing happened to me. Neighbor came over and asked for wifi access. Being the nice guy I am and overwhelmed by the situation I said yes. I regreted it as soon as I closed the door. What if she does something illegal ? What if my downloads get slower because she is doing something on the internet. What if my online games start to lag because of her.
I couldnt sleep well that night because of all the bad things that could happen. Next morning I just changed the password. When she later that day came up to ask what happened I just told her that I changed my mind and dont want to give her access to my internet.
 
I did this for a neighbor who's roommate moved out a couple months before she did, but took the comcast service with them.
If you know what you're doing and have a decent enough router, you can easily isolate their devices and manage their usage. She said all she really used was email and netflix on her Wii. Her traffic pattern checked out. :lol
Offered 10 bucks a week, and delivered on her promise.
No regrets.
 
Same thing happened to me. Neighbor came over and asked for wifi access. Being the nice guy I am and overwhelmed by the situation I said yes. I regreted it as soon as I closed the door. What if she does something illegal ? What if my downloads get slower because she is doing something on the internet. What if my online games start to lag because of her.
I couldnt sleep well that night because of all the bad things that could happen. Next morning I just changed the password. When she later that day came up to ask what happened I just told her that I changed my mind and dont want to give her access to my internet.

She just wanted the D
-Link Wifi Router Access

My network doesn't have a key to my house or a ladder to get to my fire escape or windows?

Come on, get on with the times grandpa! Most modern networks come with housekeys and ladders (and snakes and ladders but that's just the expensive one)
 
Same thing happened to me. Neighbor came over and asked for wifi access. Being the nice guy I am and overwhelmed by the situation I said yes. I regreted it as soon as I closed the door. What if she does something illegal ? What if my downloads get slower because she is doing something on the internet. What if my online games start to lag because of her.
I couldnt sleep well that night because of all the bad things that could happen. Next morning I just changed the password. When she later that day came up to ask what happened I just told her that I changed my mind and dont want to give her access to my internet.

Haha oh man. Was she cute?

I'd trust a girl more than a guy on these kinda situations.

You dont expect girls to download illegal terrorist porn.
 
It won't. All it takes is one bad apple to ruin it for everyone.

I'm not sure why one bad apple would ruin it for everyone. I've let people stay at my house while they're traveling or in between places or whatever. The vast majority of them are good house guests. Some are not. I don't generalize that the ones who are not means there's no such thing as a good house guest. I'm a good house guest. For the people who weren't good house guests, I'd consider not inviting them again. For the people who were exceptionally bad mooches, I'd confront them about contributing. In the past when I've owned cars, I've been happy to offer rides to anyone who needs one. If someone was abusing that privilege, I'd say I couldn't offer them a ride. If someone burnt a tank of gas taking advantage of me, I'd ask them to pitch in for gas money.

I let people use my Wifi. If someone abused it by P2Ping like crazy or deciding to cancel their internet service so they could mooch off mine, I'd block them and probably not consider allowing that specific person to do it again. I don't think that would change how I treat others.

Like, I live in a 1+ million metro area city. There's the typical issues. I live somewhat near a shelter and next to a public housing building that has pretty much serial low level crime or disturbance issues. I lock my door. I'm not an idiot. But I still give leftovers to my neighbors, invite them in when we're having people over, try to hold the door for them, say hi, let them know if their laundry is done in the laundry room (and I'm very grateful the few times I've forgot mine there and my neighbors have let me know or even better brought it to my apartment for me). I'm not sure why anyone would internalize this sort of me-against-the-world narrative where everyone is just waiting to pull one over on you.

I think being taken advantage of teaches you to temper your judgment and to understand how to protect yourself from abuse, but I think it's bad if the way you decide to protect yourself is just to totally turtle away from the world.
 
I have a friend who is essentially the neighbor in this story, lives in a converted house with 4 apartments, and he just paid a neighbor like 10 bucks a month to use his WiFi for YEARS. My friend is connected 24 hours too and does everything that the paranoid people in this thread have imagined (nothing like child porn though). Torrents, streaming video, Netflix, Xbox Live gaming, the works. He moved recently to another apartment upstairs in the same house and asked the guy to drill a hole through the ceiling so he could run an Ethernet cable up since now the WiFi isn't as stable and i think the guy is doing it. Either that guy is a total doormat or he doesn't give a fuck whatsoever, I find it hilarious my buddy has been getting away with it for so long.
lmao
 
Jesus, reading through this thread is making me think I couldn't be friends with any of y'all. It's just WiFi people, anybody really nefarious would probably just hack it. Only thing I'd have done differently is tell him I'll change the password after (insert time you think is appropriate here).

Im not sure paedophiles tend to be hackers though, i suppose you never know
 
I'd just let the guy use it so long as he doesn't hog the bandwidth.

Nowhere did I suggest he WILL be downloading child pornography, I presented an example case of liability you have as the owner of the network and things that may occur as the administrator of that network.

I think that is a myth. I don't believe you have any such liability. Well, not in the UK at least.
 
Im not sure paedophiles tend to be hackers though, i suppose you never know
They're not. Most people we catch receiving or distributing CP are not unusually tech savvy. Hacking into a secure wifi access point is beyond the ability of 99% of my suspects. Hopping onto a non-secure access point is not.
 
Why should he borrow something from you, when you don't even know the guy? If he wants internet, let him get it on his own until you guys eventually become friends.
 
Change the password, and then the name of the network into something like this. So nobody asks you again.
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Jesus, reading through this thread is making me think I couldn't be friends with any of y'all. It's just WiFi people, anybody really nefarious would probably just hack it. Only thing I'd have done differently is tell him I'll change the password after (insert time you think is appropriate here).

I would normally agree with you. But in this age of bandwidth caps and NSA, sharing a WiFi is a risk. See how those two things destroy society?
 
I would normally agree with you. But in this age of bandwidth caps and NSA, sharing a WiFi is a risk. See how those two things destroy society?

Bandwidth caps maybe, but that's just a commercial thing.

NSA? Well, the more that people leave their wifi unsecured the less chance NSA has of making anything stick. And don't take any crap they give you about it being "your responsibility". It isn't, and they can't make it so just by saying so. By the same argument any murder on Federal land is the President's responsibility and they don't pursue that either.
 
What sort of router are you using, OP? Can you run customer dd-wrt firmware on it? If so, it's possible to create a separate network for him to use, and further, one that is ad supported. He gets wifi that is segregated from your use; you maintain your private network and make a bit of money on the side (admittedly very little).
 
It's not hard to coordinate your move-in date with the date you get your internet hooked up. You can even get 'net turned on before you move (as long as you're there, of course). Not sure what your neighbor's issue is.
 
What sort of router are you using, OP? Can you run customer dd-wrt firmware on it? If so, it's possible to create a separate network for him to use, and further, one that is ad supported. He gets wifi that is segregated from your use; you maintain your private network and make a bit of money on the side (admittedly very little).

I do have a router that allows for a guest network, as suggested in the thread I will set it up. I'm going to ask him how long until he gets his internet up. Don't really want to set up ad supported wifi but interesting suggestion.
 
Same thing happened to me. Neighbor came over and asked for wifi access. Being the nice guy I am and overwhelmed by the situation I said yes. I regreted it as soon as I closed the door. What if she does something illegal ? What if my downloads get slower because she is doing something on the internet. What if my online games start to lag because of her.
I couldnt sleep well that night because of all the bad things that could happen. Next morning I just changed the password. When she later that day came up to ask what happened I just told her that I changed my mind and dont want to give her access to my internet.

Well this is fairly pathetic.
 
I'm not sure why one bad apple would ruin it for everyone. I've let people stay at my house while they're traveling or in between places or whatever. The vast majority of them are good house guests. Some are not. I don't generalize that the ones who are not means there's no such thing as a good house guest. I'm a good house guest. For the people who weren't good house guests, I'd consider not inviting them again. For the people who were exceptionally bad mooches, I'd confront them about contributing. In the past when I've owned cars, I've been happy to offer rides to anyone who needs one. If someone was abusing that privilege, I'd say I couldn't offer them a ride. If someone burnt a tank of gas taking advantage of me, I'd ask them to pitch in for gas money.

I let people use my Wifi. If someone abused it by P2Ping like crazy or deciding to cancel their internet service so they could mooch off mine, I'd block them and probably not consider allowing that specific person to do it again. I don't think that would change how I treat others.

Like, I live in a 1+ million metro area city. There's the typical issues. I live somewhat near a shelter and next to a public housing building that has pretty much serial low level crime or disturbance issues. I lock my door. I'm not an idiot. But I still give leftovers to my neighbors, invite them in when we're having people over, try to hold the door for them, say hi, let them know if their laundry is done in the laundry room (and I'm very grateful the few times I've forgot mine there and my neighbors have let me know or even better brought it to my apartment for me). I'm not sure why anyone would internalize this sort of me-against-the-world narrative where everyone is just waiting to pull one over on you.

I think being taken advantage of teaches you to temper your judgment and to understand how to protect yourself from abuse, but I think it's bad if the way you decide to protect yourself is just to totally turtle away from the world.
I know. What I was really getting at is if everyone lives under the "treats others as you would expect to be treated" mantra, there are going to be people who abuse the system. More and more people will then be come disenfranchised from the whole notion and its every man for himself. There are certainly people above it all but experiencing what I have in my life its hard to not be suspicious of the vast majority of people out there. I do think its good to help others in need but at the same time there are people who seek to take advantage of that generosity. I guess what I'm saying is that we don't live in a perfect world.
 
What sort of router are you using, OP? Can you run customer dd-wrt firmware on it? If so, it's possible to create a separate network for him to use, and further, one that is ad supported. He gets wifi that is segregated from your use; you maintain your private network and make a bit of money on the side (admittedly very little).

A lot of routers allow you to create "Guest" networks with access controls.
 
Call the cops right now!

People drive around in vans looking for unrestricted routers. Once they find one they look for a nearby vacant house/apt/room and use BOGUS information to make it look like they are renting. Then they politely send someone, usually a girl, to ask if she can use your wireless password. Once done they use your internet to exchange gross, illegal, and unpatriotic files. When the police come all they find is you, the original owner and you get charged with all sorts of stuff. This happened to my uncle and we are still looking for the real downloaders.
 
You could mess with the QoS (Quality of Service) settings in your router so that he gets shitty speeds.

know what would give him real shitty speeds? not having the pw.

Get a DD-WRT router, setup a guest network with the same SSID and password. Limit it to Dial-up speeds
yeah go, drive somewhere, spend money, set something up using your technical skills, and then limit his speeds, ]:-) oh man, thatll show him!
 
I had someone ask me once because they were moving out in a month and didn't want to pay for internet anymore. Told them no because data caps (there was no data cap).
 
Call the cops right now!

People drive around in vans looking for unrestricted routers. Once they find one they look for a nearby vacant house/apt/room and use BOGUS information to make it look like they are renting. Then they politely send someone, usually a girl, to ask if she can use your wireless password. Once done they use your internet to exchange gross, illegal, and unpatriotic files. When the police come all they find is you, the original owner and you get charged with all sorts of stuff. This happened to my uncle and we are still looking for the real downloaders.

Lol @ unpatriotic files.
 
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