Isn't that what sells?
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I thought E3 banned Booth Babes?
- Thread starter ponpo
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Isn't that what sells?
Baller. PhD
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I support this stealth booth babe photo thread.
Femmeworth
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Oh my.
That does it... Nintendo wins E3.
But seriously, back when I went in 99-03, every year they had the best booth babes.
Finaika
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Because murder is against the law.
Is this what I think it is?Nintendo ladies are dressed pretty similar to other years though the grey and white shirts have turned more blue and white like the Wii U logo.
Hes steering the game with his butt cheeks?
My pixelated hands are clapping for you.
Indeed. There is a Luge exercise in the new Wii Fit U
Raitosaito
Member
Ubisoft won this year in the booth babe department also.
No, not really.
Well yeah, if they can afford to decline a job, then I'd say they have a choice. Kinda. There's so many ways society can coerce people into doing things that it's hard to answer did they really have a choice. Then there's personal motivations as well.
It's really lazy, it's an appeal to base desires and for only 50% of your potential market (which is pretty stupid and not taking into account other sexual orientations either). I don't like capitalism and I'm better than most capitalists at this, why are you marketing to only 50% of the population?
Then we have how things like booth babes make other women feel, it reinforces that gaming isn't for them. Something which was bought up at CES this year by women in the industry:
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/violetblue/the-ces-2012-booth-babe-problem/963
http://typeaparent.com/booth-babes-ces-201.html
This kinda shit is holding back the industry but judging by the response in this thread most of you seem okay with this as long as you can get an eye full. PHWOAR.
toddhunter
Member
Killing then, that works?
Why not timed explosions? explosions certainly catch our eye and turn heads.
Hmmm, I'm on to something here, what else can we use to attract certain audiences while alienating others without resorting to presenting our product. NEVER show your product, no that's stupid. But what? How about we remove all liquids from the premises and give water away at our booths, no more base a desire than thirst!
THAT'S IT! Get in touch with the people who run E3!
It's a good thing you aren't the one standing up for womens rights then! You could be seen as a bit of a hypocrite! Haha! Close one!
Vermillion
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1) I also doubt booth babes are at all the reason there aren't that many female gamers
2) In real estate, an attractive female realtor is more likely to cause both men and women to buy. An attractive man does not affect either. I'm going to assume that this goes beyong real estate and that people assume that the same effects are indeed replicated in other industries, hence, "booth babes"
2c
Karsticles
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Aren't the women the enablers?
E3 2012 Booth Babe
Naoki?!
So do you have a problem with models in general or just when they attend trade shows?
Also, I'd imagine the shitty working conditions and almost exclusively male-targeted products would be a larger barrier to entry to women than a girl in booty shorts at a trade show.
When society has, for the past couple of hundreds years, places massive importance on the idea of female beauty (whatever form that may take throughout the years) don't you think that affects all genders? Female bodies are seen as something intrinsically beautiful no matter what your orientation but the same can't really be said about the male body. We are a lot better at disseminating these ideas as well now.
Basically, we place a lot of importance on how women look and that affects both men and women so it isn't surprising what you've said about the realtors.
Again though, just because it works, why is it right?
Not an easy question to answer but trying to keep it related to the topic I have a problem when it's almost entirely one sex, homogenised and used to hawk totally unrelated products. That's just a few problems I have.
I agree, it's a symptom (e: but like I said earlier, things like this just perpetuate the idea that gaming is a dudes thing)of the shitty attitude to women in the industry but this thread is about booth babes so that's what we're talking about.
Unregistered007
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Hmmm they might be using Wrestling tactics, you know using your own family to sell product.
Just like the old days when Vince McMahon used his daughter to get breast implants and become a wrestler to sell WWE televised product.
The classical music scene isn't immune to the allure of blood and boobs, not by a long shot. There's plenty of murder and suicide in the opera, and plenty of hot young musicians. Take, for example, Yuga Wang. She can really play, but that's not the only thing about her that gets discussed.
1. wow it really makes you think...
Unregistered007
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ZombieTimeMachine
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JokerOfSpades said:
Most studies show there are plenty of female gamers, usually around half, as noted above. It isn't that we aren't playing games, it's that many stick to more casual games. There are many reasons for this, but among those reasons is that they tend to be more female-friendly.
domlolz said:
Exactly. I started playing games when I was five, went to school for computer animation, and have the intent of going into the industry. I love games and gaming, and I am certainly used to this kind of stuff, but even I have times when I have to pause and reconsider if going forward in this is a good idea. There is this undercurrent that makes us feel like we do not belong, and it is very frustrating when every time I, or someone else tries to explain this we are always met with a lot of "No, it's totally harmless". It isn't harmless. It is holding us back. The industry will not continue to grow much until they can learn to make females (as well as other minority groups) feel more welcome, both as industry members and as consumers. This issue as a whole is far more complicated than just this point, however one small step forward is better than standing still.
domlolz said:
Right again. Society's view of women is playing a major role here as well, but that does not make it (or society) right. As I said above, we need to actually move forward on these issues instead of just brushing them off and staying as we are.
Sorry if I am rambling or not making sense, but I am really tired.
Vermillion
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Meh, explaining, not justifying. It's a marketing tactic.
Well I was referring to the type of gamer interested in E3, not the expanded "gamer." And the main reason I don't usually take stock in these reasons for why women aren't playing games is because of the studies that show most female gaming interest being put towards JRPGs, a genre known for all of the regressive tropes mentioned and much more that could easily be argued to be deleterious to women.
So why don't women play videogames (non-casual)? I've personally met few who do, and I'd like to figure out the answer to this question in my lifetime.
Bumped into these ladies today. Were a pleasant bunch.
PigSpeakers
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Yeaaaaaaah. Average Chubby girls are the best.
thebaroness
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I'll say I'm on the fence out booth babes. I'm definitely against dressing up women in random clothing with logos plaster over their bodies and who don't know a thing about the product their selling.
But I really love seeing people dressed as characters from the games they're promoting. I've seen plenty of great male and female models done up like this.
But I really love seeing people dressed as characters from the games they're promoting. I've seen plenty of great male and female models done up like this.
and it was fun the one time I was a booth model 
Femmeworth
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No, no, no. He represents demand, while the girls represent supply.
No one said it was.
Considering how women are typically depicted in video games, I wouldn't be okay with official cosplay instead of booth babes either.I'll say I'm on the fence out booth babes. I'm definitely against dressing up women in random clothing with logos plaster over their bodies and who don't know a thing about the product their selling.
But I really love seeing people dressed as characters from the games they're promoting. I've seen plenty of great male and female models done up like this.
and it was fun the one time I was a booth model
Karsticles
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Hahaha, nice.
But I really love seeing people dressed as characters from the games they're promoting. I've seen plenty of great male and female models done up like this.
and it was fun the one time I was a booth model
You realize what the followup question is going to be, right?
I don't see the problem , I haven't been to E3 in years but i go to pax east and comic con NYC / Philly and there are attractive women and attractive men. I don't exactly see them picking fat and ugly men to demo game and draw people in and the men wear tight shirts to show off how in shape they are.
I also don't see fat guys as the characters in the games either , they are all people who have muscle on top of muscle but you never really hear anyone bring up the damage this is doing to young boys.
I also don't see fat guys as the characters in the games either , they are all people who have muscle on top of muscle but you never really hear anyone bring up the damage this is doing to young boys.
catotheyounger
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Her protective eye wear makes the picture come together
Cosplayers are definitely getting more popular these days too as "booth babes." But of course, most females in video games are fairly attractive too or wearing revaling clothing so that would just get complained about as well.
thebaroness
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B-b-but I like sexy wemmens in costume!
In all seriousness, I really don't have a problem with a girl dressed as say, Aya from Onechanbara. As long as she can sprout off at least one or two lines about the actual game. It at least fits the promotion of the product more than a tight dress or mini skirt ever will.
And women aren't going to stop being dressed sexy in video games until more women enter the field and design them differently. Though in all honesty, I like a well balance industry. I do like women(&men) in nice, classy clothing, and I also like titties!
Karsticles
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Personally, I've found that the sexiest female character designs always come from female artists. It's as though, because they are women, they are free to idealize the female form without fear of societal retribution.
Why would more women designers change the apearance of women in games ? Going to the malls , going to resturants and I see many woman dressing provacitivly .
I see house moms walking around in the tightest spandex known to man with low cut shirts. I see women in their early 20s walking around with their ass cheeks hanging out and their navel proudly showing.
The majority of Female fashion is to dress provactivly .
Just look at the dress that piano player is wearing
Yeah, talking to girls at events where they're dressed up as characters you can clearly tell if they know anything about the product they're advertising or not if you ask them even the simplest, most basic of questions and it's kind of awkward when they don't know it. They should be informed about the product enough so they can talk about it to a certain degree since that is what should be happening when people approach them.
Graphics Horse
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Let's high five right now.
Ruud_Luiten
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I'm in love <3
Vermillion
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I'm in love <3
While everyone else is commenting, she is very pretty.