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If PS4 and X1 both use DRM, how will it affect Wii U?

Nope.

As much bad press and fire and rage are being levelled at XBone (and potentially PS4 if it has DRM), the right games will make most bend over and deal with it in the end. I don't see Wii U getting the kind of support to even leverage any weaknesses or poor reception the other two receive.
 
I could see Nintendo send press releases to family oriented medias, even make an ad, with a bold message such as:

"Give, lend, borrow new generation games. Free of charge, only on Wii U".
 
As a current gen system, the Wii U will benefit from a DRM-pervasive next-gen purchase model... just as the X360 and PS3 will.

To be honest, I think these high-end systems are going to be hard sell even without all of this DRM baggage as many of the games will look pretty much the same to a lot of consumers.
 
UberTag said:
To be honest, I think these high-end systems are going to be hard sell even without all of this DRM baggage as many of the games will look pretty much the same to a lot of consumers.
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What?

PS4/XBO are a good 10x stronger than current gen. No game should look the same unless it's a port.
 
If Nintendo actually informed customers about it, and I mean do some aggressive marketing then it won't make it sell less that's for sure.
 
Maybe if the only games you can actually trade in are Wii U games, then everyone will trade in their Wii U games to buy the new XBone Privacy Destroyer? Then Wii U will be even more doomed.

Just kidding. Nobody bought any Wii U games to trade in.
 
JordanN said:
What?

PS4/XBO are a good 10x stronger than current gen. No game should look the same unless it's a port.
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Most third-party games WILL be ports. Or at least they will have current-gen downports that will look pretty darn good to the less discerning casual game consumers out there. Certainly good enough to keep sticking with current gen technology if they're trying to find reasons to avoid a $400+ console upgrade.

And they'll be even more attractive if those versions allow for renting, loaning to your friends and family members and a used market that hasn't crashed in value.
 
Sadly I think the majority of the consumers who exclusively buy used products won't realize that their PS4/XBO can't play used games until after the purchase. At that point it doesn't matter.

Unless Nintendo takes advantage of the marketing potential, like stated above and spin this into their favor.
 
UberTag said:
Most third-party games WILL be ports. Or at least they will have current-gen downports that will look pretty darn good to the less discerning casual game consumers out there. Certainly good enough to keep sticking with current gen technology if they're trying to find reasons to avoid a $400+ console upgrade.

And they'll be even more attractive if those versions allow for renting, loaning to your friends and family members and a used market that hasn't crashed in value.
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I don't know about that.

Publishers could/would be under pressure to make their PS4/XBO games look good if first or third party games outshine them big time.
 
Sendou said:
What does that have to do with anything?

It would still work just like the last generations of consoles did unlike MS and (apparently) Sony. Sometimes evolution is devolution.
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Yeah, like the world accepted DRM on digital content, they will accept it on physical copies. Online Pass wasn't a no-go for the majority.
 
jodzapg said:
What is DRM ? :)
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Digital Rights Management, basically a catchall term for anti piracy methods, namely those software based. Technically the 360 and PS3 already have a form users notice, system activations, but that's reasonable and Games on Demand/XBLIG aside you aren't otherwise restricted. Here the X1 may be dialing back home every 24 hours to be sure you are still the owner as physical games would require activation but can still be traded in, and few LIKE that for a myriad of reasons.

Anyways already have a Wii U due to aging Wii issues, and I'd love to see it take off at the cost of MS/Sony floundering badly if they both ran with the scheme, but I suspect most won't care or will just keep playing hardball. Though then I'd just want obstinate big publishers to suffer doubly so.
 
Gamers will "flock" to the Wii U when it gets the right amount of good games. I think PayBone will do just fine, though maybe some of the PC gamers will prefer Wii U as a secondary gaming device in the end, if PayBone are shamed by always-on/drm/anti used games etc, and if PayBone games are multiplat with pc to a large extent.

Gamers who prefer consoles as their primary gaming device will probably get at least one of ps4/Xbone.
 
TheExorzist said:
If anything Nintendo will somehow add DRM later as well.
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And you think this would happen... Why? Not that they're completely benevolent but they may see value if everyone's upset and it's a bit late to really build the system around, closest they can do is go pure DD.
 
uhmm DRM will only succeed when you're buying one of the big consoles (Sony / MS) and accept this crap. The gamers will decide. Don't buy it an you won't get it in the future (next-next gen).
 
Mxrz said:
I expect most to flock to the PC, especially if the Sony becomes as moronic as MS. I'm not sure if Nintendo would ever directly market the WiiU as a secondary machine to the PC, but it couldn't hurt.

It would still need actual games, too.
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If people were upset about DRM why would they flock to PC? There is no option there for used game's here at all
 
Eusis said:
And you think this would happen... Why? Not that they're completely benevolent but they may see value if everyone's upset and it's a bit late to really build the system around, closest they can do is go pure DD.
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You know, it's funny everyone assumes that no one will buy Xbone/PS4 if DRM comes but what if indeed a lot of people do? What if game sales skyrocket? I mean, when looking and the Diablo 3 and SimCity sales DRM doesn't seems to be that much of a boundary. I know, D3 and SimCity are big names but still.

What do you think Nintendo will do if everything turns out fine for Sony and MS? NeoGAF is not everyone and therefore not representative. If it would be we wouldn't have a gaming industry to speak of any more anyway by now.
 
chabeezy said:
If people were upset about DRM why would they flock to PC? There is no option there for used game's here at all
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Dont care when AAA games cost like $5~$15 dollars on steam. And you can play it in offline mode. And it will always be forward compatible for at least some years. Or else someone will write a emulator for it because pc is open platform.
 
TheExorzist said:
You know, it's funny everyone assumes that no one will buy Xbone/PS4 if DRM comes but what if indeed a lot of people do? What if game sales skyrocket? I mean, when looking and the Diablo 3 and SimCity sales DRM doesn't seems to be that much of a boundary. I know, D3 and SimCity are big names but still.

What do you think Nintendo will do if everything turns out fine for Sony and MS? NeoGAF is not everyone and therefore not representative. If it would be we wouldn't have a gaming industry to speak of any more anyway by now.
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Things aren't binary either, if there's a significant drop off that goes to Nintendo instead, but isn't enough to actually take out those systems, then it can represent a niche worth keeping in mind. Nevermind that still doesn't really counter the point that it's too late to design the system around it, though I guess there's always next time.

Though I suspect next time would just be pure DD, none of this awkward compromising between trading in and digital ownership.
 
ReiGun said:
Nope.

As much bad press and fire and rage are being levelled at XBone (and potentially PS4 if it has DRM), the right games will make most bend over and deal with it in the end. I don't see Wii U getting the kind of support to even leverage any weaknesses or poor reception the other two receive.
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This. Though if Wii U were already in a good position, they could definitely leverage this.
 
I'll just re-post my thoughts from the other thread, as they are probably even more relevant here:

Not only will I not buy a PS4 and Xbox One, I'll buy the shit out of a Wii-U and every major game/exclusive for it. Not supporting a DRM heavy console, simple!
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Dizastah said:
Do you think gamers will flock to Wii U? Will Wii U still be ignored by third parties?
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1) No. I don't see millions of PlayStation and Xbox gamers flocking to the Wii U.

2) Yes. In terms of third party relations, the Wii U is in a really bad position. I would be legitimately surprised if third parties reconsidered their stance on the platform. Hopefully they do, but I'm not holding my breath.
 
Dizastah said:
Do you think gamers will flock to Wii U? Will Wii U still be ignored by third parties?
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Answer to the first question depends on second a lot. I don't see any game I want to play on WiiU so far, as I have very limited free time, I usually play games I like most: RPGs and Strategy games. So if second answer is no, than first is more likely.
OTOH we know that's not gonna happen, if we judge by Wii, I mean third party support.
And I thought publishers want used games blocked, so there is that too. Although if PS4 really doesn't block them, it's less of a problem.
 
Nope. I won't buy a Wii U in the foreseeable future, I'll probably grab one in 2-3 years now just to play the Nintendo games. This, regardless of what happens with DMR issues on XB1 and PS4.
 
I don't think it will affect sales much. Nor will gamers flock to the wii u or the pc for that matter. PC have a pretty high barrier to entry, and I don't think a lot of console buying gamers are interested. I had a roommate, really into Xbox, try to argue with me that the Xbox is stronger than any PC because it was solely dedicated to gaming.

Anyway, most gamers will just go ahead as get the ps4 or xbone and rightfully complain. Don't personally think drm will make a great negative impact on either sales
 
Wii U isn't the alternative to a PS4 or Xbox1. Nintendo systems are basically 1 gen behind the rest of the competition, they're not even directly competing.
 
Look I love gaming and the WiiU looks fair enough for what it currently delivers and most likely will deliver from Nintendo in the future.

But I have not purchased one...because it is region locked.

The PS4 and Xbox one will either be relatively region free, in which case I'll buy one, or they will not be, in which case I'll ignore them as well. None of that will change me never getting a WiiU.

Besides which, I doubt Nintendo have any problem adding the same systems or worse into their console at some point. Don't put down to benevolence what can be attributed to Nintendo simply not being able to technically deliver the requested features. Can you just imagine a meeting where EA requested a world wide controlled used game trading system be implemented by Nintendo? Their heads would have exploded.
 
I think once anyone actually tries the wii u for an extended piece of time they fall in love with it. I hope it gets the sales it deserves once the great games come ( even tho I think there's great games already)
 
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