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[Days like these...]

Apple has lost a patent case for technology used to measure pulse rate. Dec. 25 is the last day they can be sold unless Biden vetos the ruling. This applies to Series 9 and Watch Ultra 2 models.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/18/technology/apple-ban-watch-sales-patent-dispute.html

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Apple is an American company and also the world's most valuable by market cap, if Biden doesn't rescue Apple here he's going to pay economically and politically

Your move, old man

 

[MayauMiao]

I wouldn't be surprised if more of Hunter Biden's naughty photos/videos start to show up.

 

[Azelover]

Thank you for the advice. I'm not interested but I want to thank you anyway.

 

[Days like these...]

Thank you for the advice. I'm not interested but I want to thank you anyway.

Buy one damnit!

 

[Kilau]

My Apple Watch 4 works perfectly still though.

As much as I like Apple products they have to be held accountable here, no veto.

 

[AJUMP23]

Apple better go buy this company. Or pay a huge fee to license.

 

[Days like these...]

Apple better go buy this company. Or pay a huge fee to license.

I really don't think they have anything to worry about I'm sure Biden will get them off the hook.

 

[AJUMP23]

I really don't think they have anything to worry about I'm sure Biden will get them off the hook.

I can’t make my previous joke it got deleted for politics. But you are right.

 

[diffusionx]

Apple is an American company and also the world's most valuable by market cap, if Biden doesn't rescue Apple here he's going to pay economically and politically

Your move, old man

on the other hand, blindly supporting big tech is no longer the automatic winner on the left it was in the obama years

i would not be surprised at all if there is no veto and apple has to write the check

 

[Unknown Soldier]

on the other hand, blindly supporting big tech is no longer the automatic winner on the left it was in the obama years

i would not be surprised at all if there is no veto and apple has to write the check

Apple doesn't pay off patent trolls. It will be interesting to see what their attempted workaround will be to get around what is apparently a very broad patent

 

[Days like these...]

Apple doesn't pay off patent trolls. It will be interesting to see what their attempted workaround will be to get around what is apparently a very broad patent

"In court, Masimo detailed how Apple poached its top executives and more than a dozen other employees before later releasing a watch with pulse oximeter capabilities — which measures the percentage of oxygen that red blood cells carry from the lungs to the body — that were patented by Masimo."

Maybe lay off the Kool-aid a little? They have their own medical watch that has had this feature way before Apple, Samsung or Amazfit. I don't see how they're patent trolls.

 

[squeakywheel]

I'm happy with my Series 7. Have an old Series 6 that just needs a new battery as backup. I don't think Masimo is a patent troll though. They're an actual company with products and Apple should pay up in this case.

 

[Reallink]

Apple is an American company and also the world's most valuable by market cap, if Biden doesn't rescue Apple here he's going to pay economically and politically

Your move, old man

Why in the flying fuck would you want the President to veto a ruling against the richest company in the world who very likely did steal their technology and talent? Masimo is not a patent troll, they're a well known medical technology company.

 

[dotnotbot]

Buy one damnit!

Nice try Steve

 

[Jinzo Prime]

Apple is an American company and also the world's most valuable by market cap, if Biden doesn't rescue Apple here he's going to pay economically and politically

Your move, old man

Masimo is also an American company.

 

[Blade2.0]

I'm not a huge fan of how the patent system is (especially concerning things like insulin) but apple has used this same patent system to their advantage and took smaller companies to court for the same reasons as Masimo. If it's vetoed, this sets a very bad precedent and would hinder competition in the marketplace. Even more than it already is. Companies have become too big. Apple should have to pay up and they should be broken up as well. Same for every other giant corporation we're now being owned by.

 

[Days like these...]

I just searched Masimo they are an industry leading company that develops health monitoring technologies. Definitely not patent trolls.

Masimo W1® Sport Advanced Health Tracking Wearable

The Masimo W1 Sport is a wearable for use in health and wellness that can be paired to a smart device.

www.masimopersonalhealth.com

 

[Trilobit]

Should Apple not deactivate the function on the watches already sold? Don't know what these rulings work.

 

[dorkimoe]

Apple could just buy masimo and call it a day.

 

[Days like these...]

Apple could just buy masimo and call it a day.

Apple could have just licensed the tech and called it day

 

[Tams]

Apple could just buy masimo and call it a day.

They should be heavily financially punished for failing to willing not license the technology.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

It’s

Buy one damnit!

It’s not a Garmin so no.

 

[Melon Husk]

Nice try Tim Apple

 

[Days like these...]

It’s

It’s not a Garmin so no.

I was joking. I'm team Vivo,Xiaomi,Huawei. I'll probably pick up a Galaxy watch 6 classic. I own a Huawei watch gt 2 right now but it's 2 years old. Battery life is amazing however it lasts about 2 weeks on a single charge.

 

[Musashipan]

I hope the rotten apple gets screwed in this one!

 

[Days like these...]

I wonder if these watches are going to get marked up and put on eBay.

 

[simpatico]

I love the idea of the Apple Watch, I just can't bring myself to wear one outside the gym. Can't leave the house with the Swiss automatic. Also can't bring myself to wear a watch on each wrist. Too bad.

 

[Cohetedor]

Apple is an American company and also the world's most valuable by market cap, if Biden doesn't rescue Apple here he's going to pay economically and politically

Your move, old man

Exactly what do people think Biden can do about this? Veto power is for laws brought before him by Congress, it has nothing to do with court rulings in copyright cases.

It's also not a criminal case so he can't pardon anyone either.

He has no power in this case.

 

[Days like these...]

Exactly what do people think Biden can do about this? Veto power is for laws brought before him by Congress, it has nothing to do with court rulings in copyright cases.

It's also not a criminal case so he can't pardon anyone either.

He has no power in this case.

Actually he does. I don't think he should veto the ban however.

 

[Cohetedor]

Actually he does. I don't think he should veto the ban however.

How do you figure? The president does not have the right to simply overturn a court case.
Show me one instance where a president has even tried.

 

[violence]

Maybe they can put that ping my iPhone feature in less expensive device

 

[Days like these...]

How do you figure? The president does not have the right to simply overturn a court case.
Show me one instance where a president has even tried.

Per the article "Apple has had success persuading presidents in the past to veto I.T.C. rulings. In 2013, the Obama administration overturned a ban on the sale of some iPhones and iPads, after the court determined that Apple had violated a patent that Samsung owned_

 

[Celcius]

No one should be above the law

 

[NecrosaroIII]

No way is Biden going to veto the ban. Hunter Biden is bffs with the CEO of Masimo

Hunter Biden hides at mega-donor Joe Kiani's $50m Santa Ynez vineyard

Hunter was seen on Friday heading to a $50m Santa Barbara county vineyard, owned by a Democrat donor. The trip came ahead of a key meeting between his lawyers and federal prosecutors.

www.google.com

 

[Cohetedor]

Per the article "Apple has had success persuading presidents in the past to veto I.T.C. rulings. In 2013, the Obama administration overturned a ban on the sale of some iPhones and iPads, after the court determined that Apple had violated a patent that Samsung owned_

Per the article you linked, Obama had no involvement, the head of the international trade commission overturned the ruling. This is between 2 American companies in an American court so might fall under interstate commerce.

 

[Days like these...]

Per the article you linked, Obama had no involvement, the head of the international trade commission overturned the ruling. This is between 2 American companies in an American court so might fall under interstate commerce.

How did the ITC overturn it's own ban? You're not making sense. I'm not on Apple's side but how did Obama have no involvement his administration vetoed the ITC ban. Apple is hoping Biden will do the same.

Here's another article https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/12/19/apple-watch-ban-series-9/

Except from the article

Can President Biden stop this?​

Yes, if he really wanted to. The president of the United States does have the authority to veto ITC rulings with a 60-day review period, with this most recent one ending on Dec. 25. While such vetoes happen infrequently, they do happen.

 

[NoviceLeader]

Such an interesting story. So, if Biden doesn't veto the ruling, Apple has to bid adieu to the tech.
I have to admit that a discovery like the Apple Watch was a groundbreaking one. There are several leading AI development services provider that are trying to grab the number one spot from Apple. However, their determination and innovation are unmatchable. I guess Mr. Biden will rule it in favour of Apple.
Just optimistic.

 

[YCoCg]

Can't Apple just pay some pitifully low fine to get out of this?

 

[FunkMiller]

I can't see any reason to upgrade from my 7 for at least another two or three years, so not much of an issue. What a weird situation though.

 

[Days like these...]

Can't Apple just pay some pitifully low fine to get out of this?

No. Apple can license the technology to get out of this.

 

[AJUMP23]

Can't Apple just pay some pitifully low fine to get out of this?

No. They stole the tech, so they have to license it. And the company that owns it has them over a barrel. So that fee is going to be a percentage of every watch previously sold and sold in the future. Until Apple can prove that they have developed a new a separate method of doing the same thing.

 

[Majormaxxx]

I'm wearing my cheapo mission impossible 1 Casio. Good stuff.

 

[Majormaxxx]

No. They stole the tech, so they have to license it. And the company that owns it has them over a barrel. So that fee is going to be a percentage of every watch previously sold and sold in the future. Until Apple can prove that they have developed a new a separate method of doing the same thing.

It's the dualshock 3 story all over again, except apple are richer.

 

[SJRB]

I'M BUYING 4 OF THEM RIGHT NOW

 

[Days like these...]

I'M BUYING 4 OF THEM RIGHT NOW

Put them on eBay you can make $$$

 

[kvltus lvlzvs]

Such an interesting story. So, if Biden doesn't veto the ruling, Apple has to bid adieu to the tech.
I have to admit that a discovery like the Apple Watch was a groundbreaking one. There are several leading AI development services provider that are trying to grab the number one spot from Apple. However, their determination and innovation are unmatchable. I guess Mr. Biden will rule it in favour of Apple.
Just optimistic.

Imagine simping for Apple

 

[22:22:22]

Wait what? Apples are clocks?

 

[Days like these...]

Wait what? Apples are clocks?

Protip: it's not necessary to post in threads you're not interested in.

 

[AJUMP23]

Protip: it's not necessary to post in threads you're not interested in.

This would ruin me.