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[DoktorEvil]

If they can't handle something as basic as hiring security they shouldn't be having a con to begin with.

10-30k attendees is pretty fucking big. PA had security even in its early days, when it wasn't that many people.

I'd say it's the crowds and the type of people that frequent cons that aren't artists or content creators that ruin what should be an overall dumb fun event.

Even watching LPers doing a panel at Cons, there are some REALLY awkward people asking really awkward questions because they are either socially inept or intentionally using the con as an excuse to be socially awkward.

I can see the overlap with those same people feeling free to touch and grope cosplayers like they're dolls.

It's nuts to hear the serious lack of self-restraint by people. I've really want to go to one, especially NYCC, but large & out of control crowds doesn't sound fun.

 

[Forkball]

Look guys, even if a girl is walking butt naked down the street, NO TOUCHY. And no pictures without asking. Would you like people taking a picture of you? Yeah, no. Basic golden rule shit here.

 

[Cheddahz]

 

[Nephtis]

I don't know how to take that last bit. It's almost like he's taking opportunity of her bad experience to just create good PR about the con he and his friends run and not much more.

Or maybe he simply is trying to say that, hey, you can come to our con and have a great, positive experience.

 

[TheAbsolution]

I don't know how to take that last bit. It's almost like he's taking opportunity of her bad experience to just create good PR about the con he and his friends run and not much more.

Or maybe he simply is trying to say that, hey, you can come to our con and have a great, positive experience.

I'm trending more towards the latter, but it could be more that he's just really proud of his friends con and wants to do right by her. Who knows?

 

[DoktorEvil]

Seishun Con is legit, right?

 

[akira28]

momo = peach = a girl's round booty

I knew something was up.

 

[G-Fex]

If it's not enough with the fucking creeps in interviews. It's sad that cosplayers aren't respected.

Take a look at this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4OZXOnbmRE

These people need to be banned permanently from conventions.

 

[Kitsunebaby]

I've definitely had some guys act way too familiar with me while I was cosplaying. It's rather mind-boggling that some people think it's acceptable to act that way.

 

[Nephtis]

If it's not enough with the fucking creeps in interviews. It's sad that cosplayers aren't respected.

Take a look at this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4OZXOnbmRE

These people need to be banned permanently from conventions.

oh my god she's annoying

she's completely right, but that tone of voice s;lfjikdws;lkgjvclkv;kljgk;ljhg

if she's using it to illustrate how grating and annoying creeps are, I think she's succeeded.

 

[Mesoian]

It's a problem that's never going to go away, and that's frustrating. There is a dramatic amount of social awkwardness at these events and most of these people don't know how to talk to others, let alone women, let alone women that they find sexually attractive, let alone women they find sexualy attractive who are in revealing outfits.

When I was in a cosplay group, I often had to run "security" during photoshoots or escort the female members of the group to and from places because the frequency of them being actually harassed was just astronomical. Things have gotten a little better since then, but I can count on two hands the amount of times I have had to stop a girl from being whisked away into a dark alley at a convention.

 

[FlammableD]

oh my god she's annoying

she's completely right, but that tone of voice s;lfjikdws;lkgjvclkv;kljgk;ljhg

if she's using it to illustrate how grating and annoying creeps are, I think she's succeeded.

 

[andymcc]

Can anyone with experience at conventions in Japan tell us how things are handled there?

I mean, is there security for the cosplayers? Is the culture that much different that they don't have to worry as much for people being harassed / groped?

in japan even escalators in regular ass places warn girls that someone may try to take an upskirt photo.

 

[Kinyou]

It's a problem that's never going to go away, and that's frustrating. There is a dramatic amount of social awkwardness at these events and most of these people don't know how to talk to others, let alone women, let alone women that they find sexually attractive, let alone women they find sexualy attractive who are in revealing outfits.

When I was in a cosplay group, I often had to run "security" during photoshoots or escort the female members of the group to and from places because the frequency of them being actually harassed was just astronomical. Things have gotten a little better since then, but I can count on two hands the amount of times I have had to stop a girl from being whisked away into a dark alley at a convention.

Yeah, I agree that it's probably never going to get away. What's absolutely imperative though is that everyone attending needs to be able to rely on the security staff. Really a shameful story in the OP

 

[Mesoian]

Yeah, I agree that it's probably never going to get away. What's absolutely imperative though is that everyone attending needs to be able to rely on the security staff. Really a shameful story in the OP

That's true, but i've found from experience that even with matters like these, you want to make sure that you follow a course of action that doesn't rely on a volunteer staff, many of which have no real expertise in handling potentially ignitable situations. A feel that at anime cons, "security" is such a flexible term.

I can't stress how important moving in groups is. It shouldn't be necessary, but in the world we live in, it's still a good rule of thumb.

 

[BY2K]

I'd say it's the crowds and the type of people that frequent cons that aren't artists or content creators that ruin what should be an overall dumb fun event.

Even watching LPers doing a panel at Cons, there are some REALLY awkward people asking really awkward questions because they are either socially inept or intentionally using the con as an excuse to be socially awkward.

I can see the overlap with those same people feeling free to touch and grope cosplayers like they're dolls.

It's nuts to hear the serious lack of self-restraint by people. I've really want to go to one, especially NYCC, but large & out of control crowds doesn't sound fun.

What kind of questions?

 

[Savitar]

Sounds like we need a better group of people in charge of these thing who will do right by ALL of the people. And yes that means protecting anyone who dresses up from people be it males or females that do some hands on when they shouldn't.

 

[rpmurphy]

What kind of questions?

What I heard from someone who attended the panel at Momocon was that someone at the mic told Crispin Freeman she had a love letter for him that she forgot to give him at the autographing. There was one person who asked a panelist in one that I attended if she was single. Just some examples, but I'm sure there are worse ones.

 

[Kama_1082]

people are fucking pathetic. I really do not understand those who think it's OK to harass cosplayers.

 

[John Rabbit]

oh my god she's annoying

she's completely right, but that tone of voice s;lfjikdws;lkgjvclkv;kljgk;ljhg

if she's using it to illustrate how grating and annoying creeps are, I think she's succeeded.

i mean...that's a pretty normal voice. are you talking about her derisive tone? she seems pretty well justified in sounding that way.

 

[Mass One]

I'd say it's the crowds and the type of people that frequent cons that aren't artists or content creators that ruin what should be an overall dumb fun event.

Even watching LPers doing a panel at Cons, there are some REALLY awkward people asking really awkward questions because they are either socially inept or intentionally using the con as an excuse to be socially awkward.

I can see the overlap with those same people feeling free to touch and grope cosplayers like they're dolls.

It's nuts to hear the serious lack of self-restraint by people. I've really want to go to one, especially NYCC, but large & out of control crowds doesn't sound fun.

I want to comment on your commentary about con goers.

I went to conbravo and a couple other cons and they all draw a specific crowd, the YouTube commentor. I was sitting in 18+ fan fiction reading and people kept shouting, and one guy yelled trigger warning and other lame internet memes. There were other moments but I remember that one. It was still a fun panel.

Casual fans aren't really attending cons, it's the hardcore person who comments on every video a LPer makes that goes. I assume they're the ones with the loli hentai profile pics. The fedora, neckbeard stereotype is not unfounded.

It's weird seeing people behave like their missing that part in the brain the calculates the social settings and then regulates behavior accordingly.

 

[Nephtis]

i mean...that's a pretty normal voice. are you talking about her derisive tone? she seems pretty well justified in sounding that way.

She can get the point across without that tone she makes though. And it doesn't just last a bit to illustrate her main point -- it goes throughout the whole damn video.

I think she's completely right in what she talks about, but the delivery really takes away from credibility. It's hard to take her serious, when it's such a serious thing.

 

[DoktorEvil]

I want to comment on your commentary about con goers.

I went to conbravo and a couple other cons and they all draw a specific crowd, the YouTube commentor. I was sitting in 18+ fan fiction reading and people kept shouting, and one guy yelled trigger warning and other lame internet memes. There were other moments but I remember that one. It was still a fun panel.

Casual fans aren't really attending cons, it's the hardcore person who comments on every video a LPer makes that goes. I assume they're the ones with the loli hentai profile pics. The fedora, neckbeard stereotype is not unfounded.

It's weird seeing people behave like their missing that part in the brain the calculates the social settings and then regulates behavior accordingly.

I remember watching a Game Grumps video where Rubber Ross and ProJared were trying to do a live skit and some fans took it upon themselves to follow them to their room and slide a note under their door asking to hang out. They wrote their cell phone numbers down too lol.

I'd be creeped out by the con crowds if I had to host a popular panel. No privacy at all.

 

[BBboy20]

but that tone of voice s;lfjikdws;lkgjvclkv;kljgk;ljhg

Are you now starting to see why I used your avy as an expression earlier?

 

[Kenai]

As a cosplayer and con attendee this can definitely be a thing to watch out for. I am kinda annoyed at the nerd dogpiling on nerd thing going on in this thread but I will let that slide without much commentary since it detracts from the issue and i don't wanna get too OT.

Guys love to get their picture taken with the pretty girl cosplayers at these things, and there's this weird idea that said cosplayer doesn't have anything better to do than take pictures the whole time. And they forget that cosplayer is a person who might be perfectly fine with it, but you should always ask anyway cause maybe they aren't and have somewhere to go, something to do, or are just tired of taking pictures so no. And if they say no there's really no debate to be had about it, let alone harassment.

The important thing is to always have buddies with you, and always have a plan ready if something happens. Me and my GF have been a cosplaying pair since...2006? and she has yet to be harassed, but we are always together so I have probably indirectly deterred a few over the years. That is a basic thing to do at any gathering of people though, really. can't be too careful about that. Shame on Momocon for handling the situation so damn poorly though. Never been, and never will now.

 

[G-Fex]

oh my god she's annoying

she's completely right, but that tone of voice s;lfjikdws;lkgjvclkv;kljgk;ljhg

if she's using it to illustrate how grating and annoying creeps are, I think she's succeeded.

dont be a tunahead

 

[Koppai]

Unrelated note to this topic but Jessica Nigri has gotten into dubbing anime. She is the voice of Super Sonico.