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[Deleted member 30609]

So, what you see in RE5 is civilized area of Africa?

It looks like it was, to an extent, yes.

 

[gconsole]

Dont be fooled gaf, this article as twice as shitty as the shit that comes from that shit site cos its basically a copy of an already shitty article written 4 years ago.

Wow! Every complain there now make it to RE5. So what we will see is everything from current article will go to RE6 then? It takes Capcom a generation to listen and adapt.

 

[ZeoVGM]

They won't fix shit, since when do Japanese developers ever listen to criticisms from Western gamers?
It's a shame really because RE5 could have been much better, I really think the demo is going to hurt their sales (similarly to how Lost Planet hurt their sales).

and yes I know Lost Planet sold well, I'm not predicting RE5 to sell badly just that it would have sold better if the controls were more accessible outside the RE4 audience.

That doesn't make sense.

How was Lost Planet's sales hurt if the game sold well? The game was awesome.

And I don't think it will "hurt sales". The RE5 demo is great. The game is great. And outside of GAF, in the real non-nerd world we're part of, I've heard nothing but great things from people about RE5.

 

[Deleted member 30609]

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[Bending_Unit_22]

For starters, Africa isn't anywhere near 95% black. The actual percentage is in the high 70's IIRC. Sure, SA has the most, but it's juvenile to even begin to say that they only live in SA. I even gave you an example just now. Whatever though.

I haven't played the game so I can't argue about where it is set, but this point is little off (and can't let it slide since I'm a demographics/culture bore ). Africa is around ~77% black, ~20% arab/berber, ~3% other. However this isn't America or even Europe where those percentages are reasonably close most places. North Africa is almost entirely arab/berber, Sub-Saharan Africa minus South Africa is primarily black (more like 99.8% black not 95%). South Africa is of course more mixed but you'd be hard pressed to find many pale faces in the villages.

Outside of South Africa there's only a few places you'll find mixed populations such as Mauritania, Chad, the Sudan. Even then the countries tend to be very segmented (both Chad and the Sudan are arab in the north, black in the south). True there used to be whites around Africa, but outside of South Africa few remain. Around 1950 whites made up around more than 5% of Africa's population (with decent numbers in at least 10 countries), today it's more like 1% (mostly in 1 country).

So yes, if the game has you going through villages which are say 75% black, 20% brown, and 5% white then it is ridiculously inaccurate unless it's some odd town in South Africa. There might be some parts of say Libya or Chad that would be 80% black/20% brown but there's not a lot of jungle villages there (like what I've seen in videos of RE5). Given that the original videos were almost all black and were followed by the outcry leading to the current situation I've read here, then its obvious accuracy wasn't the motive. Which I agree detracts from a game set in a realistic locale.

 

[GenericPseudonym]

The race of the zombies is immaterial. You're shooting fucking mutalisks and Astaroth in the demo. It doesn't matter, RE is an inherently ridiculous series.

The problem with RE is that it plays like shit, atleast compared to Dead Space. I mean why didn't Capcom remove some of RE4's remaining contrivances.

 

[Suburban Cowboy]

ATTENTION!!!






niggles.


That is all

 

[Deleted member 30609]

=O

 

[∀ Narayan]

Failure to the nth degree.

They don't need fixing. If you don't like it, don't buy it. Save us the tears.

I refuse to settle for less!

Spoiler

Pre-orders Resident Evil 5.

 

[KibblesBits]

I can't believe people are still bitching about race in the game. Can't some people just be happy to have the game come out?

 

[Surfheart]

That is a bit suspect.

Oh and the article was written by Cam Shea. He's usually not too bad, I remember him from back a loooong time ago in the Nintendo Gamer days (I think it was NG anyway).

He was the Hyper editor for ages too.

Niggles.

 

[Deleted member 1235]

The 5th point is ludicrous. :lol

Is it so hard to believe that Northern Africa (the area that was scouted by the RE5 team) is ethnically diverse? Considering places like Egypt and Libya are in Northern Africa and other Mediterranean countries within fairly close distance of it; that was a ridiculous point to make.

EDIT: Honestly, i'm a little offended.

I haven't seen/played the demo. However, if there is an equal mix of every race of people with as many white/asian people as there are brown/black, I'll be calling bullshit as well.

 

[Version 3.0]

I most definitely have d-pad equipped a green herb and used it on myself. They should check their facts before they do a story.

On the other hand, analog movement has been overdue since REmake, if not earlier. There's no reason to have a "run" button a decade after analog sticks became standard on console controllers.

But they missed the #1 thing wrong with the demo: why in hell are the buttons backwards? Using "RE4 controls", the shoot and action buttons are the opposite of how they were in RE4 on the Gamecube or PS2. I actually don't think they should have "RE4 controls", but at least get it right.

...and my take on the "black zombies" thing: they missed a huge opportunity. The negative publicity would've kicked this game's sales into high gear, a la killing hookers in GTAIII. And they wouldn't even be in the wrong, just like they weren't when it was first shown. Black zombies in Africa is just as okay as Spanish zombies in Spain.

 

[DevilWillcry]

:lol WTF they did this shit for Killzone 2 as well.

 

[mollipen]

I loved Resident Evil 4. I've loved most of the games in the series (though I don't have the obsession with RE2 that other crazy people do), but I mean I really god-damn loved RE4.

I played the RE5 demo, and was completely baffled. Either something has gone horribly wrong, or I somehow forgave RE4 for having utterly shit control if it at all controlled the same way RE5 does. To be fair, I didn't play the demo for long, but I mean I hated the control to such a point that seriously started to worry, as RE5 is easily one of my most-wanted games for the year.

 

[Unknown One]

:lol WTF they did this shit for Killzone 2 as well.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/935/935405p1.html

Link for the confirmation.
Yeah you are right

 

[Deleted member 30609]

I loved Resident Evil 4. I've loved most of the games in the series (though I don't have the obsession with RE2 that other crazy people do), but I mean I really god-damn loved RE4.

I played the RE5 demo, and was completely baffled. Either something has gone horribly wrong, or I somehow forgave RE4 for having utterly shit control if it at all controlled the same way RE5 does. To be fair, I didn't play the demo for long, but I mean I hated the control to such a point that seriously started to worry, as RE5 is easily one of my most-wanted games for the year.

The problem with the demo is that it's just that, a demo. You're not given time to really become accustomed to the controls or the somewhat unique play style.

Playing through the full game could fix this for some, although if you're really worried you could always just rent it and see.

 

[Morph-0]

I most definitely have d-pad equipped a green herb and used it on myself. They should check their facts before they do a story.

On the other hand, analog movement has been overdue since REmake, if not earlier. There's no reason to have a "run" button a decade after analog sticks became standard on console controllers.

...

...and my take on the "black zombies" thing: they missed a huge opportunity. The negative publicity would've kicked this game's sales into high gear, a la killing hookers in GTAIII. And they wouldn't even be in the wrong, just like they weren't when it was first shown. Black zombies in Africa is just as okay as Spanish zombies in Spain.

ok there wasn't a need for a run button when you have analogue but did IGN realise that you can also run by clicking in the left analogue stick?

With regards to the black zombie issue I don't think Capcom are really into negative publicity and they are probably just being cautious given some people made a huge deal of the issue when they first released the game. The problem for me is that the odd Asian / White / Middle Eastern zombie should be just that - odd at the moment it seems there are too many which throws the location off a bit. Oh and I've got to echo - bring back the women.

 

[Deleted member 30609]

ok there wasn't a need for a run button when you have analogue but did IGN realise that you can also run by clicking in the left analogue stick?

didn't know that

 

[Night_Trekker]

And besides. Why the hell would I care about the color of the zombies I've been killing. I've been annihilating multicolored zombies since Resident Evil 2.

Why the hell should anyone care? I agree.

If Capcom actually made changes to the game because of the preposterous uproar, that's really fucked up. I don't think anyone will care when they're playing the game, though.

 

[mollipen]

The problem with the demo is that it's just that, a demo. You're not given time to really become accustomed to the controls or the somewhat unique play style.

Playing through the full game could fix this for some, although if you're really worried you could always just rent it and see.

I don't know, it just... I was NEVER one of the people to bitch about the "OMG TANK CONTROLZ!" of the previous RE titles, and I thought RE4 - even though it was the same tank controls just switched up a bit - played like butter.

But ten minutes into the RE5 demo, and I couldn't believe how much I hated it. Absolutely no way I'm going to give up on the game, but I'm seriously concerned that my first impression of the game is terrible.

 

[Deleted member 30609]

What people don't realise is that once you get out of the urban environments into more remote regions of the country, you start fighting against a different set of Majini that are Africans with tribal spears and shields. They're all black! Hooray?

-_-

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/41387.html

 

[CrushDance]

Kind of OT: But is it true that the PS3 version has a 5GB install?

 

[Deleted member 30609]

Kind of OT: But is it true that the PS3 version has a 5GB install?

Not that I've heard. Source?

 

[CrushDance]

Not that I've heard. Source?

Just a blog post I came across

 

[Deleted member 30609]

Just a blog post I came across

Fair enough. I wouldn't surprised though, what with Capcom's track record.

 

[YoungHav]

I look fwd to this.

 

[[Nintex]]

So according to these suckers the game is too easy, what do they need the shooting and walking options for then? My guess is that they got their asses kicked in the demo.

 

[McBradders]

They do need to bring back the women though. Kinda destroys the whole village thing when there are only men.

Never heard of the Village People, eh?

 

[Jonm1010]

So after just starting to play Dead Space I really wish RE5 would incorporate a walking while shooting function or at the very least with the knife. Its not a dealbreaker or anything but I dont buy that tension stuff, its just frustrating.

 

[Dabanton]

were they making fun of Valve in that episode? :lol

No it was WoW.

Valve had nothing to do with it unless your suggesting that the character at the keyboard looks like someone who works at Valve...a suggestion that has gotten people clipped in the past.:lol

 

[nyong]

The article is fine, although IGN is stupid for bringing up race immediately after getting throttled for sexism. I completely agree with all of their points, though.

 

[zoukka]

Maybe there's a fix for IGN somewhere.

 

[grap3fruitman]

It was a sweeping statement; I'm still bitter from the shitting up of the demo thread and the inevitable shitterizing of the official thread.

Well clearly there must be some reason for the threads constantly getting "shitterized," no? So many people take issue with the controls but they can't possibly be right; Capcom and the RE5 Defense Force know best.

 

[zoukka]

Well clearly there must be some reason for the threads constantly getting "shitterized," no? So many people take issue with the controls but they can't possibly be right; Capcom and the RE5 Defense Force know best.

You bet your ass.

 

[iplay5150]

Even though I agree with pretty much all of these "niggles" (well, no, not the whole thing about black people), I'm STILL super psyched for this game. Definately a day one purchase for me. RE4 was so good that I'm happy to get more of it with incredible graphics and co-op. And everyone seems to be forgetting how much variety RE4 had, so it's a safe bet that RE5 will have that variety as well. Or maybe it won't. Whatever.

Yeah, the controls really could use an overhaul. Playing the demo right after a session of Gears of War 2 made me question my hype for RE5. But that feeling didn't last very long. It just connected with me all over again. It brought back the experience of RE4 and, at least to me, that is a good thing. I'm now replaying RE4 to get ready for 5 and it's just as awesome as I remember, awkward controls aside. But I'm the kind of guy that played through and loved the original RE all the way to Code Veronica. Those controls never bothered me.

So would RE5 be better if they modernized the controls? Sure, probably. But I guess I'm just not as picky as most people. I don't want all games to play like Gears, I don't need all my sequels to do what RE4 did to the previous games. Right now I'm trusting Capcom will deliver an awesome follow up to one of the best games of last gen (and this one). I guess we'll see come March.

 

[eXistor]

Jesus, did IGN rape your moms or something? Get over it.

 

[KittenMaster]

I swear, I thought the enemies in RE5 were still speaking Spanish. >_<

 

[Version 3.0]

Never heard of the Village People, eh?

:lol

 

[neorej]

I was excited for RE5, but after the demo, I think I won't even pick it up if I found it in a budget bin.

 

[Throwaway123456789]

1) Inventory System Kinks

(Moving stuff around the grid isn't in the demo from what we can see, but trust us – it's in the full game.)

Wrong, press the X button to move things around the grid, even in the demo.

That's good stuff, but there are some small niggles. Let's say you have a green herb in the down position on the grid. Hitting down in the game simply equips it into your hand. Want to use it? You can't – once it's in your hand you have the option to either heal your partner or give it to your partner.

Wrong, press the X button to heal yourself. Press the B button while next to your partner to heal both. Or just use it from the menu.

Bring back the herbs in all their easy-to-distinguish-colour-coded glory!

They ARE colour coded god damn it. You have to be blind to not see that. You can even combine red and green herbs like the old games.

2) Running With Scissors

Oh, and while we're on the subject of melee combat – Capcom! Where's the intensity? Remember the suplex move from RE4 where you could burst an enemy's head like a ripe melon? Well, there's no sign of anything like that yet in RE5.

What? Chris punches like fucking Mike Tyson. I've punched off a few heads already, and I've played the demo TWICE.

3) Enemy Difficulty

Granted, it's about overwhelming numbers more than it's about intelligence, but the enemies in RE5 feel a little watered down next to their more aggressive RE4 brethren.

What x2? The enemies in RE5 runs about twice as fast as the spaniards in RE4. And instead of just stopping three meters from you, they actually attack directly most of the time.

4) The Run Button

Shit, I agree!

5) Stay True to the Setting

Agreed, again!

 

[Dead Man]

Fucking hell. I haven't played the demo but some of the responses on here are hysterical, and I don't mean funny.

For those saying 'how dare IGN criticise a game' and 'go make a better game', it is their fucking job to criticise games, not make them.

For those saying they are factually wrong... Yeah, jump all over them for that one, it's pretty weak.

I'm looking forward to RE5, but I do have some concerns from what I've seen. And Rez>You, lighten up dude, some people will not like the game, some people will like it but wish some things had been done differently, get used to it.

 

[Deleted member 30609]

I'm done venting.

 

[Vyse The Legend]

Zombies are zombies; I don't care what color their skin is.

Why is it that people care?

 

[Totobeni]

well , at the #5

isn't the supposed to be Central pr Middle Africa ? why all the white and mixed people , in Nation like Congo , Rwanda , Guinea you don't see white people unless you are near airport or embassies .

and if the story are in North Africa like Morocco and Tunisia then there should be very few black people since the majority there are mixed and white-ish plus Arabs .

look like mr N'Gai forced them to change that , but I guess it's smart move after all , no angry people , no people like Yasser to delay the game , no backlash and no headache for Capcom .

 

[ChackanKun]

I hate IGN, but i agree with this article.

 

[McValdemar]

It's all too late to fix...

I agree.
This warning from IGN will have the same results (none) as the warning on Too Human.

 

[David H Wong]

Oh my god, insisting that all the people you kill be black-skinned Africans? Because it's not possible for any other races to live there?

That's the kind of childish bullshit that make people not take the gaming press seriously. Sometimes it's like it's all written by 16 year-olds.

 

[Ninja Kn1ght]

Karen: If you're from Africa, why are you white?
Gretchen: Oh my God, Karen, you can't just ask people why they're white.
Zombie: Because I'm an RE5 Zombie!
:eats their brains

Spoiler

I hope someone gets this.

 

[crowphoenix]

Some of the over all points I agree with, but the notion that the melee attacks do no real damage is just flat out wrong. Playing as Chris, I've smashed heads and had them explode from one of his punches. I think they need to play the demo more.