Stop pre-ordering games and definitely stop buying the season pass bullshit would be a start. You also have to raise a stink over broken games as well or else voting with your wallet means jack shit. It would also help to reward developers/publishers who do a good job with their releases and have great post launch support.
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IGN: 'Enough is enough, how you can help put a stop to broken games'
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Keep in mind that you have to maintain a strike-rate of at least 75% for that to be cost effective
sippeangelo
Neo Member
Stop pre-ordering! Once the publishers realize the developers have a semi-working game, there's simply no incentive to let polish it when you've already THROWN ALL YOUR MONEY AT THE GAME.
Gamezone
Gold Member
No more words needed.
dark_inferno
Member
That statement... from IGN.
That site that gives Assassins Creed Unity a high mark even trough its completly broken.
That site that gives Assassins Creed Unity a high mark even trough its completly broken.
Triggerhappytel
Member
Yep. Asking us to do our part is so hollow if they don't do theirs. But they are slaves to advertising so cannot be trusted.
Earthpainting
Member
I'm merely stating I understand why the media side feels like their hands are tied, as shitty as it may be. It's not like the gaming press is actively lying about things. They are at worst lying by omission due to NDAs or assumptions that stuff will get fixed before games hit the shelves. Putting the uncut "truth" may end up with dated reviews that may hold no value at all at launch, and people calling them out on inaccuracies and potential biases. Again, doesn't excuse the relationship the media has with publishers, but unless they try to chase independent funding and don't mind reviewing games later than their peers, this relationship appears to be unavoidable in this industry. I do expect them to do their part in following-up on the state of these games though. If a game ends up having launch issues, or gameplay hindering bugs that were shipped, it's their duty to report on them. I'm not sure if they already do this or not though.
The consumer on the other hand gets to experience the games as they are when money is expected to put down for them. They are the ones getting exploited, and if they don't learn a lesson from past exploitations, I don't know who else to blame. Your Fox New analogy is not a bad one, though I think the publisher is probably the Fox News. Viewers give channels like that its power, and if they probably shouldn't tune in if they ever want them to change.
HazySaiyan
Banned
IGN are just as culpable in this sort of thing happening. If you're giving games like Halo MCC a 9.0 and not mentioning the problems with Driveclub in your review, then what is the average consumer supposed to do? Not everybody frequents places like GAF to get this information.
Ivory Samoan
Member
I know I shouldn't pre-order games... but I love the hype train nearly as much as the destination, I just can't help it (with special games, obviously).
Apology accepted
Yeah the consumers, the victims are of course to blame.
Why do you think things like food standards need to be implemented and upheld? Unscrupulous proprietors have been adulterating sweets with poisonous dyes, beer with arsenic, cheese with lead, selling meats/milk well passed their spoiled and deadly state for centuries. Why can't people just not get you can't just trust a seller of food to not poison mortally or just short term ill you? People, food consumers have only themselves to blame . . .
Caveat emptor is a pretty psychopathic basis to look at why sellers and proprietors are scummy to their consumers. It's so mendacious that the media which is supposed to serve as a watch dog has been co-opted to gitter up shit and sell it as milk chocolate figuratively within consumer entertainment/video games.
Masquerader
Member
Don't pre-order anything new. Really. I mean it. The devs will still get your money if they deserve it (as in, user impressions are good). It's not as if you can't buy it new unless you pre-order it. If you do pre-order, stop complaining.
Chinese Cartoons
Banned
Was waiting for them to hop onto this train and what's funny is they give many broken games 9/10 or 10/10.
Wolfgunblood Garopa
Member
I've been doing the same thing lately. I just don't have the patience anymore.
Retro, Vita or gog.com. Steam very rarely after their bullshit with Freespace 2 (never buy old games on Steam, learned that lesson).
this, lol.
Voting with wallet is right but it doesn't always send the right message. The publisher doesn't know exactly why people didn't buy the game. It may even send the wrong message if the publisher misinterprets the wallet vote message (Graphics weren't good enough / not enough explosions etc etc.)
I don't know how to fix it.
I don't know how to fix it.
Yeah good call. Pre-ordering is one of the main reasons for broken games, and to see IGN dodge the point because they make money off selling hype, really tells you how genuine this article is.
Is there proof for this? Or just an assumption.
binarymelon
Member
I don't read a lot on IGN, but listening to podcast beyond I hear Colin Moriarity and Marty Sliva constantly telling people not to pre-order.
Mccaffrey takes fanboy to an all new level, plus did the reviewers have the same issues consumers did post launch on either MCC or Driveclub?
Heavy's Sandvich
Member
Stop buying them is what we could do.
What IGN can do and other outlets, is to make sure they're reviewing retail code on release rather than at the events.
What IGN can do and other outlets, is to make sure they're reviewing retail code on release rather than at the events.
Dr. Black Jack
Member
Because preordering is a binary black-and-white issue for most people since they have poor impulse control and eventually get burned on a game they were hyped for. They could, you know, be smarter about their purchases and preorder when it makes sense for them but it's so much easier/morally gratifying to spam #stopallpreorders every chance they get.
Yoda
Member
If you were a business and you could release 3 products in 2 years or 2 products in 2 years and the difference was a 33% increase in income and short-term PR issues what would you do? A monkey could make the choice.
Keep buying broken ass games and it will not change, but it will get worse.
Keep buying broken ass games and it will not change, but it will get worse.
I don't think any scientists have performed controlled experiments yet on the causes of the recent trend of broken games, so I'm gonna go with assumptions.
Pancakes R Us
Member
I'm so glad I stopped reading reviews about 5 years ago. If I'm interested enough in a game, I'll try it. I'm generally not big on the main, popular AAA titles as I don't have much time for gaming these days. I also play a lot more retro games which are proven in quality. My advice is to just be wary and try to spend your money wisely.
In the meantime, one would hope the European Union (I speak as someone who lives in te UK) is working on legislation to stop companies from releasing very brokn games that people then can't do anything about.
In the meantime, one would hope the European Union (I speak as someone who lives in te UK) is working on legislation to stop companies from releasing very brokn games that people then can't do anything about.
Handy Fake
Member
Class, it's like Jeffrey Dahmer giving tips on childcare and social responsibility.
Halo MCC still pisses me off, way worse than BF4, because at least chunks of that game always worked.
What's worse is Microsoft, which keeps throwing stuff at me like ODST and a free month of Live.
How about my $60 back, you mother fuckers? I bought that game specifically to play over holiday break, and that window has come and gone.
What's worse is Microsoft, which keeps throwing stuff at me like ODST and a free month of Live.
How about my $60 back, you mother fuckers? I bought that game specifically to play over holiday break, and that window has come and gone.
andthebeatgoeson
Junior Member
So basically, wait to buy. Let the suckers beta test it for you. That's what I'm doing on PC. Still have to catch up to the Max Payne 3 portion of steam. But by now, it's heavily discounted and tested by you suc... guys. I'll buy GTA 5 next year or 2016.
I don't care too much about multiplayer. So, MP3 in a year. BioShock infinite after that. Gta5 before the next iteration. Bam, my major buys and I can hopefully clear out some back log.
I don't care too much about multiplayer. So, MP3 in a year. BioShock infinite after that. Gta5 before the next iteration. Bam, my major buys and I can hopefully clear out some back log.
Baroquemantic
Member
I still think the whole broken games thing is overblown. The vast majority of games are fine with only handful having issues. People are making it seem like a buttload of games are broken.
But IGN review them as if none are broken, that's the point.
1. Stop preordering games. You often get ripped off hen a game either sucks or is broken, and get almost nothing in return. You also pay more.
2. Reviewers need to be held more accountable. Only review what you can play right there. If you weren't able to review parts of a game, say so. Don't review promises, review what you have. You can update reviews later.
2. Reviewers need to be held more accountable. Only review what you can play right there. If you weren't able to review parts of a game, say so. Don't review promises, review what you have. You can update reviews later.
thewhitehawk
Member
Another neat way you can help put a stop to broken games is by not trusting IGN's reviews.
The best thing to do is just Blacklist shitty devs that screw over their consumers. I won't be buying a game from Ubisoft, Evolution, Dice, or 343i anytime soon.
I don't even care if that means games take longer to make, but this business of buying games at full price only to alpha test them, then waiting weeks or months for a fix has got to stop.
Meanwhile, people who wait to purchase these games get them for half price and get a fully functional game right when they get it
I don't even care if that means games take longer to make, but this business of buying games at full price only to alpha test them, then waiting weeks or months for a fix has got to stop.
Meanwhile, people who wait to purchase these games get them for half price and get a fully functional game right when they get it
And?
Its not like your life depends on it.
Other companies will release games that you can enjoy too.
Fucking moneyhats are ruining gaming for all of us.
Saiyan-Rox
Member
IGN posting this is really funny
Can we fix Reviewers who don't point the problems too please or are those cheques just too damn high?
Can we fix Reviewers who don't point the problems too please or are those cheques just too damn high?
Yeah, this. What a joke.
Diddy Kong
Banned
Please tell us how the next CoD/AssCreed is a solid 11/10, IGN.
Hyperzephyrian
Banned
IGN has more than their fair share of biased coverage, but an argument's merits shouldn't be weighed based on who is making that argument, and in this case, the author is right. Be vigilant, be informed.
I'm not a charity. I don't give interest-free loans to multimillion dollar companies. The fact that those pre-ordered games are often broken is of secondary concern to me.
I share your sentiment, but that's not what capitalism is.
Roran Stehl
Member
I'm personally done pre-ordering. This year has been disappointing in that regards.
I guess you won't be getting No Mans Sky then. I dont think theyve announced or planned a disc version.
Portugeezer
Member
IGN acting like they give a shit. Fuck off.
AC and MCC.
'nuff said.
AC and MCC.
'nuff said.