Well it was about the Xbox One version of the game and now it seems to be about the PS4. Wonder how that happened.
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Well it was about the Xbox One version of the game and now it seems to be about the PS4. Wonder how that happened.
Words of soundness in this thread full of mess.
Adding on, developers have a time and resource limit to get a game made and only so much of that can be dedicated to visuals. Once they hit their goal and have it how they want it I'm sure they move on unless there's extra time. With that being said I don't think anyone in here know's exactly what the team is doing with their time but I'm sure it's being put to good use.
to get the exclusives and extras that use it?
The thing is some people act as if there are 2 nvidia titans in the console which is not even close to case.
Also its not always the case of parity for parity sake. It also has a lot to do with the frame works and work flows. splitting the assets is just huge headache.
Handy Fake
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Not so sure. I doubt a developer of a game that has had so much hype surrounding it would say "Oh well, that'll do. We could add a bit more AA, perhaps soften the shadows, upgrade the textures, but... Nah.".
If they came out and said that, then yes I would agree that the PS4 owners will have a valid reason to be a little upset.
Zombie James
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Nope, they're weren't equal in an architectual sense but they were very evenly matched overall (give or take). The PS4 and Xbone aren't.
Basicly what i wanted to say, already (probably better) written.
Don't get why this thread exploded like this.
There won't be a 100% parity.
Even in the worst case (for the ps4) and ps4 and one looking exactly like each other, the ps4 will at least deliver a more stable framerate.
For practical purposes, it was a lot more take than give. Most agree that Sony's GPU was underpowered, and the split RAM setup was a legitimate problem in many cases.
Derpcrawler
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Handy Fake
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I accept your second point, certainly. But then again there's no reason why a better specced machine that has horsepower to spare couldn't have a bit more polish. It's a multi-million dollar franchise.
Anyway, much of a muchness I suppose. I'll reserve judgement until the full game come out.
Handy Fake
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Not really. Bypassing the lack of solid facts around whether parity has been admitted or not and just speaking theoretically, why wouldn't the owners of a more powerful system be a little peeved if they were paying for versions of a game that was being held back by a rival system?
It's not wanting the other system to fail, it's being a little riled that the game they're spending money on could have been better.
EDIT: Sorry, double post.
Anyway, aye, wait and see til it comes out.
jim-jam bongs
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I just honestly don't understand why people think that a dev would intentionally gimp their game on the better selling platform. Is it because Microsoft are rich, so they must be moneyhatting them? Considering recent activity at Microsoft that seems really unlikely. So what's the end game, here? Why are they "forcing parity"?
Gotdatmoney
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I would imagine so that they can provide the best experience possible to as many people as they can within their vision, budget and resources. Destiny in it's current form on the PS4 isn't making people turn away do to the visuals. So now they want to try for the same thing on X1. Dunno why that's so crazy. By the logic you're providing you just want the game to be exclusive so they don't waste their time trying to provide a great experience for other weaker system. As for WiiU, if there was a WiiU version I would want them to try and optimize to get it as close to the other versions as possible. If they got the lead sku to a place they are happy with it, I don't see why working hard to get the other skus up to their happy point is wrong.
Handy Fake
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Have to admit, it doesn't really bother me a great deal - but I can understand others feeling a bit annoyed about it.
Yes.
Nah. It's one of the alien dudes from Space Invader.
meanspartan
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Your shadow looks like a pyramid.
Windom Earle
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I did not understand the size of this thread until I watched the video. Haha, IGN trolling hard. I don't give a shit about this game fortunately.
For a thread replete with endless accusations of fanboyism I thing your post takes the cake. You stating the xbox is an inferior console does not make it a "known fact". It is definitely inferior hardware wise, but unless that is your sole criterion for determining a consoles worth that does not make it an inferior console.
Funny to see that both "sides" in this thread see the posts of the other as confirmation of their bias. Personally I think it's too early to tell. The PS4 version might look better. If it does not that does not prove that parity was forced. Having bought the more powerful console does not mean a developer is obliged to spend resources according to your wishes - it's up to them to decide where extra time and money is spent. You can still choose to not buy their game but if it still looks good and plays well I personally think it's a silly decision.
Some of these posts read like parody but they are real.
* Graphics are important to me. I bought a PC and the most powerful console to experience PC games and console games at their highest graphical fidelity.
* I love the gameplay of Destiny and want to experience it with the best graphics that I can, and at 60 FPS if possible.
* If the graphics on the PS4 are being held back intentionally to make the graphics similar to ANY less powerful console, that would be disappointing to me. This hasn't proven to be the case, but Bungie's comments on "parity" are concerning.
* It would be disappointing to me not because I hate the less powerful console or want it to fail, but because I won't be able to play the game at the highest graphical fidelity that I know my PS4 is capable of.
* I am happy that owners of the less powerful console will be able to experience Destiny with great graphics. However, I still wish I would have been given the choice to experience the game with better graphics on my PS4, or PC if this were a PC game. It's not about PS4 v. X1, it's about experiencing the game with the best graphics and framerate possible because of my love for the gameplay.
* I love the gameplay of Destiny and want to experience it with the best graphics that I can, and at 60 FPS if possible.
* If the graphics on the PS4 are being held back intentionally to make the graphics similar to ANY less powerful console, that would be disappointing to me. This hasn't proven to be the case, but Bungie's comments on "parity" are concerning.
* It would be disappointing to me not because I hate the less powerful console or want it to fail, but because I won't be able to play the game at the highest graphical fidelity that I know my PS4 is capable of.
* I am happy that owners of the less powerful console will be able to experience Destiny with great graphics. However, I still wish I would have been given the choice to experience the game with better graphics on my PS4, or PC if this were a PC game. It's not about PS4 v. X1, it's about experiencing the game with the best graphics and framerate possible because of my love for the gameplay.
Schweinehund
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Honestly this thread is at 27 pages now and we've apparently concluded that resolution and FPS are the only measurements of parity.
If people can't understand there are more technical aspects to how a game looks than those two factors...
Do any of these options besides resolution mean anything to some of you?
I found odd that an bungie game with resolution lower than Halo 3 only got 2 pages on gaf... and most comments being positive.
You can already see differences in that video. Just from that compressed video you can already see that AA, AF, and shadows took a hit, and that is what I expected. Any game that reaches framerate and resolution parity will likely take the biggest hit's in effect quality such as texture filtering and shadow quality, which ironically are more noticeable at higher resolutions.
KoopaTheCasual
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Butthurt.
Have you actually played both versions? The PS3 version in person is a blurry mess compared to even other PS3 games. The resolution is extremely low, the textures are muddy, the shadows look awful, and the AA solution just blurs things even more. There is a huge difference between the two versions. Destiny shows the biggest difference in cross gen versions out of any game I have seen to date.
This post caught my eye.
I'm not so sure there are any games that even fall in a close enough category to do this even after 9 months.
The PS4 is the more capable system. "Exclusives" will most likely never be close enough in design to push LEGIT comparison. Maybe a game comes out 1-2 years in that you can compare to a launch game of a simular build, but that's as silly as comparing two different types of games like DC and FH2 for example.
RocketRacoon
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I hope on launch they look the exact same.
Cause I have a PS4, and my roomie has an XBO, and I guaren-damn-tee we're both going to have a ton of fun.
Cause I have a PS4, and my roomie has an XBO, and I guaren-damn-tee we're both going to have a ton of fun.
No. Because they can't be quantified. Therefore they're irrelevant to them
On a side note. 720p or 1080p. Gonna enjoy destiny as an old time halo lover.
meanspartan
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Ps2 was the weakest console of gen 6 (except Dreamcast). Did i make a bad choice having it be my primary that cycle?
psn
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What? Where is my logic saying it should be exclusive? Im just asking why one version gets exclusive treatment? Ps4 and x1 owners pay the same price, is it in their responsibility to susidize the weaker console? Imo, no. Should there be paritiy no matter how big the difference is? No. If you have better hardware that is easier to develop they should utilize it. Why not use sharper textures or better AA at least?
So for the future microsoft should get an even weaker gpu because devs should give their version exclusive treatment until there is parity? Whats the point of having better hardware then? Why should my 50 AMD GPU display the game equal to my friends 50% faster AMD GPU that is 100?
Shouldnt we both get what we pay and what we expect?
If you buy a console for multiplats, what do you expect if you decide against the 50% more powerful console?
And what would you expect if you buy the 50% more powerful console?
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Cynn
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It could be a result of bungie spending a lot of time optimizing the X1 version... Didn't MS send out a bunch of engineers to help bungie out with optimizing the game? I guess the same could be done to the ps4 version but they might feel the game is in a good state on ps4 without optimizing more. You can always improve on your code given some time, but at some point you have to ship the game...
Decepticon
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its true though
rokkerkory
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You're stating these like they are facts? PS4 is lead platform for this game, it took much much more effort to get X1 to near PS4 levels and very late in the game too. So how did that hold back PS4 version development?
How do you know if PS4 version could have been better?
This.
GAF has lost its mind today. There have been games that have had resolution and framerate parity on both systems. Those are not the only parameters in the parity formula.
psn
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If they went for full parity? Because the ps4 is around 50% more powerful. Because it has the better memory setup. Because it is easier to develop (no eSRAM). Because there is no full parity in any game except for Fifa or other games where nobody cares.
How do you know the PS4 version couldn't have been better?
Why is it fair that devs choose to utilize the maximum out of the xbox one while they dont utilize the maximum out of the ps4 even though it should be easier to develop (even more because it is the lead platform?)
Chobel
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Better shadows, better AA, better effects...
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