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IGN speculates on Wii's price and release date.

Pretty much all that changed was removing everything about the specs. Nintendo is probably trying to keep those as hush hush as possible.
 
Nicktals said:
Pretty much all that changed was removing everything about the specs. Nintendo is probably trying to keep those as hush hush as possible.

They'd get bad press if people knew what they were really paying for.
 
ok on launch day i wanna pay no more than 300 for my wii purchases. so i hope that means the system with the nunchuck and wiimote and hopefully one classical controller, then ill seperately buy one more wiimote, and on launch day prolly only buy one or two games...prolly zelda and metroid. ill wait to play the rest as i re up my cash flow and beat these games.
 
gutter_trash said:
besides, Nintendo usually bundles a game with their console 1Q or 2Q after launch.

I don't think that's true. The first pack-ins for the N64 and GC were quite awhile after launch, much more than 3 months for sure.
 
Zenith said:
They'd get bad press if people knew what they were really paying for.

Doubt it. It might get bad press from us, but to most people, fun is fun. Whether the fun is from the Wiimote, or the fun is from the graphics, I don't think most people will care. I also think that price isn't that bad. We're getting free online play, wireless, out of the box.

I just hope the online impresses me more than the DS's. Anyways, I think it's a fine pricepoint...Doesn't Nintendo also have a history of announcing a price, and then dropping it right before launch? Didn't the N64, and the GCN do this?
 
$230 is a bit too much if it's only the core console and one controller. But you know what? $30 is not that big a deal, and Nintendo's brands along with the novelty of motion control pretty much ensures it's going to sell well at any price below $250.

I don't see why Microsoft and Sony get free passes on charging $400+ for their consoles while Nintendo can't charge an extra $30, especially considering games will probably be cheaper, and you're getting free wifi, GC compatibility and a virtual console interface. When it comes down to it, you're paying for a console's entertainment value, not its power.

Also, casuals don't read Wii spec threads and probably assume it's in the same class as the 360/PS3, at least this holiday season.

Hopefully Nintendo adds some more value to the package with VC games or an extra controller to make it that much more enticing, but $230 sounds like a decent price.
 
Xdrive05 said:
The black Wii will cost a little more because it's almost twice as big.
Ok I've had more than enough Wii jokes after all this time

But that made my laugh way too much so its ok

Anyone considered the possiblity of VC dowloads being a packin? Not a bad idea, if the lauch VC lineup is great.
 
I think I'll just play Zelda on my GC and hold off on buying a Wii. I wish I could just buy some sort of expansion pack and slap in on my GC instead of having to go out and spend over 200 bucks on a new system with similar tech.
 
argon said:
I don't see why Microsoft and Sony get free passes on charging $400+ for their consoles while Nintendo can't charge an extra $30, especially considering games will probably be cheaper. When it comes down to it, you're paying for a console's entertainment value, not its power.

because you ARE paying for the technology, and what is in these systems ARE worth $400+... what is in Wii technologically is worth less than 200 :P

I'm sorry that systems aren't sold based on "fun points" or some shit though :lol
 
I don't see why Microsoft and Sony get free passes on charging $400+ for their consoles

Which forum are you reading? People discussing this price is no difference then someone saying they don't want to pay extra for a hi-def disc format in a gaming machine. It's really more about perceived usefulness then specs.
 
Black at launch=awesome. C'mon Nintendo, black DS Lite in the States.

The price doesn't bother me really. Of course, I'm not buying a zillion games this fall like some folks, so that makes a difference.
 
Ancestor said:
Black at launch=awesome. C'mon Nintendo, black DS Lite in the States.

The price doesn't bother me really. Of course, I'm not buying a zillion games this fall like some folks, so that makes a difference.

Actually I was hoping for a blue one.
 
Amir0x said:
because you ARE paying for the technology, and what is in these systems ARE worth $400+... what is in Wii technologically is worth less than 200 :P

I'm sorry that systems aren't sold based on "fun points" or some shit though :lol
As soon as Funtologists are taken seriosly, we'll prove the Wii is better :lol
the Funomiter is patent pending
 
argon said:
$230 is a bit too much if it's only the core console and one controller. But you know what? $30 is not that big a deal, and Nintendo's brands along with the novelty of motion control pretty much ensures it's going to sell well at any price below $250.

I don't see why Microsoft and Sony get free passes on charging $400+ for their consoles while Nintendo can't charge an extra $30, especially considering games will probably be cheaper, and you're getting free wifi, GC compatibility and a virtual console interface. When it comes down to it, you're paying for a console's entertainment value, not its power.

Also, casuals don't read Wii spec threads and probably assume it's in the same class as the 360/PS3, at least this holiday season.

Hopefully Nintendo adds some more value to the package with VC games or an extra controller to make it that much more enticing, but $230 sounds like a decent price.

Oh man you got me excited! I just imagined a picture of a Wiibox which includes a black wii , two Controllers with Nunchaku , one Virtual Console controller and one pre paid VC card, and if you turn the box , you see a picture of SuperMario World and other VC games.
Of course with Zelda packed in :p
 
BobTheFork said:
I dont think there is ANY chance of a second Wii mote, its thier core technology, they want to sell those.

To sell the third one and the fourth one to mum and dad, they have to see the kids playing Wii Sports multiplayer. 2 wiimotes + Wii Sports (full version or demo, or just tennis, who knows) is locked. The 229 price tag just confirms it (the extra 30 when compared to other nintendo hardware at launch is for the second wiimote and the software comes as "free")
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(just guessing, who knows what strange ideas has Iwata on his mind ...)
 
BobTheFork said:
As soon as Funtologists are taken seriosly, we'll prove the Wii is better :lol
the Funomiter is patent pending

I think Dissapointment-meter will beat to the market. *runs*
 
i think the extra $30 may entail another controller; to have just one controller and leaving it at $199 would be taking a bigger risk, considering the demographic nintendo is after ("only one controller? gee whiz, well i never. maybe this isnt such a good deal after all")

and it'd also explain why nintendo has been so reticent about the price. if it were $200 they would have probably said so at E3
 
Hitler Stole My Potato said:
I think I'll just play Zelda on my GC and hold off on buying a Wii. I wish I could just buy some sort of expansion pack and slap in on my GC instead of having to go out and spend over 200 bucks on a new system with similar tech.


But they added just enough to make the tech warrant a higher price, even if not that much of a higher price. The 512 flash RAM and tripple the system RAM alone means no memory card and better than last gen graphics. And that controller has a lot more tech than any other.

With two or three times the gamecube's horses, onboard flash ram, and pimped out controller; at a bit over double the retail of the gamecube, the price is about right.
 
yeah forgot that ur also getting free online and wireless out of the box.


and colors...hmm im sure nintendo will release some diff colors later on.
 
Amir0x said:
because you ARE paying for the technology, and what is in these systems ARE worth $400+... what is in Wii technologically is worth less than 200 :P

I'm sorry that systems aren't sold based on "fun points" or some shit though :lol

Ami, you have your Wii already paid off and I know you have a tight budget. What do you make of this?

Edit: I think people may be overstating the cost to Nintendo of wireless...
 
stalker said:
To sell the third one and the fourth one to mum and dad, they have to see the kids playing Wii Sports multiplayer. 2 wiimotes + Wii Sports (full version or demo, or just tennis, who knows) is locked. The 229 price tag just confirms it (the extra 30 when compared to other nintendo hardware at launch is for the second wiimote and the software comes as "free")
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(just guessing, who knows what strange ideas has Iwata on his mind ...)

Thats very possible. That and the point someone made about packing the 2 with a name like WII made sense. Multiplayer fun its going to sell this thing (for me at least) so It seems ressonable that there could be two Motes. I am basing my opinion of past launches, but Nintendo is trying to break the mold so to speak
 
Tyrone Slothrop said:
i think the extra $30 may entail another controller; to have just one controller and leaving it at $199 would be taking a bigger risk, considering the demographic nintendo is after ("only one controller? gee whiz, well i never. maybe this isnt such a good deal after all")

and it'd also explain why nintendo has been so reticent about the price. if it were $200 they would have probably said so at E3

That's not a bad thought at all, considering they were waiting to see the cost of the nunchuck before finalizing.

In that case, they'd be really wise to include something two-player with the system, even if it's just a couple of mini-games or something.
 
Amir0x said:
because you ARE paying for the technology, and what is in these systems ARE worth $400+... what is in Wii technologically is worth less than 200 :P

I'm sorry that systems aren't sold based on "fun points" or some shit though :lol


PS2s currently sell for $129.99 but it's technology is worth MUCH less. It's still selling strong based on its entertainment value, not its tech.

The same can be said for the GBA SP.

Meanwhile, in 2001 you'd be hard pressed to sell a Dreamcast for over $79.

Technology has nothing to do with whether consumers will welcome a price point. It's all about an item's perceived value in the market.
 
Y2Kevbug11 said:
Ami, you have your Wii already paid off and I know you have a tight budget. What do you make of this?

I already paid 200 toward Wii, so if this is true 30 dollars won't kill me... I'll likely just cancel my Loco Roco pre-order and put it toward Wii.

It's annoying more than anything, but it's so cheap that it's hard to actually complain much. I mean, it's like... I'm gonna get a Wii at some point, and so the 30 dollars is basically just the cost of playing it this fall or something :P

argon said:
PS2s currently sell for $129.99 but it's technology is worth MUCH less. It's still selling strong based on its entertainment value, not its tech.

The PS2 is ancient technology, released back in 2001. If you purchased in in 2001, you would expect to pay 299.99 and be a steal. If you're paying $230 for an Gamecube turbo in 2006, the difference is clear. Value =! null, and Wii won't even have remotely in the same ****ing galaxy the library of quality titles as PS2 for the next 3 or 4 years or so even if that ever happened... so even if you wanted to use the "fun" argument, it fails
 
oh, IGN what have yee wrought... :lol

why are peeps hoping it comes bundled with a classic controller...? wouldn't that eliminate wiimote burn-in?
 
Xdrive05 said:
The black Wii will cost a little more because it's almost twice as big.

Heh :D

If the launch price is $230 I'd have no hesitation in importing straight away. That works out at about £120 - just £20 more than the price of a brand-new DS Lite over in the UK - and it looks like a bargain from where I'm sitting, even taking into consideration the lower specs.

Even if I held off for the official launch, I doubt I'd be paying more than £150 (IIRC, the GameCube launched at £130 over here, though that was in the face of Microsoft's massive price cut on the Xbox) which is at a price point - for me, anyway - where the system becomes pretty much an impulse purchase.
 
Cosmonaut X said:
Heh :D

If the launch price is $230 I'd have no hesitation in importing straight away. That works out at about £120 - just £20 more than the price of a brand-new DS Lite over in the UK - and it looks like a bargain from where I'm sitting, even taking into consideration the lower specs.

Even if I held off for the official launch, I doubt I'd be paying more than £150 (IIRC, the GameCube launched at £130 over here, though that was in the face of Microsoft's massive price cut on the Xbox) which is at a price point - for me, anyway - where the system becomes pretty much an impulse purchase.


It doesn't work that way $230 will probably mean £200-£230.


Regardless I'll be there at launch with several games no doubt.
 
argon said:
Also, casuals don't read Wii spec threads and probably assume it's in the same class as the 360/PS3, at least this holiday season.

They aren't as stupid as you make them out to be. They'll see a huge graphical difference, and thus pay more for what looks better. They won't need to read "specs" to see the huge power gap.
 
Amir0x said:
because you ARE paying for the technology, and what is in these systems ARE worth $400+... what is in Wii technologically is worth less than 200

The Wii is able to connect to the internet wirelessly. This feature costs $100 on the Xbox 360. The Wiimote is going to be included. If the Xbox 360 controller costs $50, it's fair to assume the Wiimote costs just as much. That's $150 in value there. Paying $80 for the hardware and whatever else is packed in (nunchuck?) seems fine to me.
 
not sure if anyone has mentioned this yet, but this $229 price might be the higher tier of a two tier pricing scheme. Maybe the bare bones model is $179, comes with one (two maybe) wiimote and nothing else. Then with the @229 model you get two wiimotes, and Wiisports.

Seems possible to me.
 
I'm holding out big hopes for nintendo's connectivity. If the support isn't there, I'll feel like I cheaped-out of the next gen. But is I can play SSBB against other people forever, I dont think I'll care. I've recently bought lots of games that look great, but I judt haven't enjoyed enough. If its really fun, I dont care what they charge.


^^^^^^ thats possible, but I really dont think nintendo will have to packs.
 
Gigglepoo said:
The Wii is able to connect to the internet wirelessly. This feature costs $100 on the Xbox 360. The Wiimote is going to be included. If the Xbox 360 controller costs $50, it's fair to assume the Wiimote costs just as much. That's $150 in value there. Paying $80 for the hardware and whatever else is packed in (nunchuck?) seems fine to me.

Yes, and on 360 paying for the internet is worth every dime because it's not a hilarious piece of shit like PS2 online or DS Wifi. But, putting that aside, Wii has its own distinctive value... but as a consumer, I expect Nintendo to give me the system for a good price based on the value of the parts, not some vague "fun-o-meter." And I hate to break it for you, Wifi is not what makes 360 premium cost 100 more... that's actually a relatively cheap thing to add.
 
The $230 price tag doesn't bother me a bit. I'm more worried about the price of the controllers. Those things could quickly cost me another $150. That's just based off the 360, Wiimotes could easily be more.
 
Gigglepoo said:
The Wii is able to connect to the internet wirelessly. This feature costs $100 on the Xbox 360. The Wiimote is going to be included. If the Xbox 360 controller costs $50, it's fair to assume the Wiimote costs just as much. That's $150 in value there. Paying $80 for the hardware and whatever else is packed in (nunchuck?) seems fine to me.

*Raises eyebrows*

That's actually a pretty damn good point. Still, online better be ****ing good on Wii/
 
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