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IGN Versus Results E3 2014: Nintendo Wins Everything

That says it all, really. All Nintendo needs to do is announce games. Doesn't matter which games, as long as they're Nintendo! Automatic win!.. for the Nintendo fanbase. Meanwhile the rest of us look at those games and shake our heads. Which means Nintendo did not win.

Honestly, who shit in your cornflakes? This is a thread discussing an IGN poll. I dunno why you're turning it into a "Nintendo can do no wrong, they always win" thing especially given they normally don't win these sort of polls. It's just an opinion, why are you taking it so personally with such a condescending tone?
 
seriously lay off nintendo. it's as if a wheelchair bound person toppled over and every passerby gave them a ferociously hard kick in the face. soon that person would be dead, but the kicking inexplicably continued. I believe the phrase "beating a dead horse" is applicable here in more ways than one.

pity is what is called for here, not animosity. everyone knows that wiiu is selling terribly, but let them have their moment in the sun. it's not like there's any danger of them dominating videogames as a result. just hold the door open for the old man rather than forcefully shoving him out of the way, it's the only civil thing to do. that's why their exists a "special olympics." it's called charity, I would hate to live in a world without it.
 
I'm not. But a lot of the Nintendo fan base is too rabid to be taken seriously, which does annoy me.

The moment someone dares speak out in a way that's even somewhat negative toward Nintendo, they pounce (as evidenced by the number of responses my post got).

It's tragically hilarious.

why does it matter to you?
 
...how are you not getting this?

Nintendo didn't win the IGN poll just because "Lol Nintendo fanbase eats shit up!" They won because the games they showed were deemed to be appealing enough for them to do so. Chalking up stuff like Project STEAM or Splatoon as an automatic win ignores just how creative and unique those games look, which is why the're so appealing in the first place.

You seem intent on writing this off as some sort of Nintendo fanbase conspiracy, when the truth is, the games Nintendo showed were simply more appealing to more voters at IGN. It probably helps that they didn't show CG trailers, but actually showed extensive gameplay of pretty much every game they brought to E3. An E3 presentation which showcases Bayo 2, Splatoon and an open world Zelda U doesn't just get hype because Nintendo, it gets hype because those games look absolutely great.

How is this difficult to understand?

I'm not writing it off as some conspiracy, i'm writting it off as something insignificant because the majority of gamers would come with an entirely different result from that poll. And as much you guys hate sales talk, the sales numbers are the illustration of that. Wii U will remain in 3rd place.
 
I'm happy that Nintendo got recognition for their great conference. I thought they did the best at E3 this year, but I was a little concerned that their efforts would get completely overshadowed by Sony and MS like last year (which is understandable since the PS4 and Bone were revealed). There was the odd thing that Sony and MS revealed that had my attention, but I think the only thing from Nintendo that didn't fuss me at all was Codename S.T.E.A.M. There's probably some other minor Mario Party thing or something I'm forgetting too, but whatever.

As for sales, I've always believed that the Wii U would never rival the PS4 and Xbox One, but it could achieve modest success if Nintendo kept supporting it with the kind of quality games they already have been. And if it doesn't, at least I'll have a new Smash Bros, the best 3D Zelda ever (I'm already convinced after what they said about it), Yoshi's Wooly World and a Canvas Curse sequel before the system's dropped completely. And that's adding on to Donk, 3D World, NSMBU and Mario Kart 8.
 
As usual, Nintendo fanbase thinks they hold a monopoly on what is fun.
Been that way since N64 vs PS1
I don't care about that.

What I'm curous about is why you "shake your head" at the games Nintendo showed. What makes only them worthy of that sort of response?

I also want to know why you think it's cool to speak for all of these people who aren't part of your pre-defined "Nintendo fanbase." I'm sure plenty of general gamers saw plenty to like from Nintendo at E3.

From what I could tell A LOT of people warmed up to the titles shown by Nintendo. If anything, there was a lukewarm reception at the other conferences for certain games. That's what I got from my limited time in those conference threads, anyway. Not only that but one of the BEST RECEIVED games was the Halo Collection, which is an upgraded collection of ports. I mean, that thread was exploding with that announcment.

I can think of people on all sides that would "shake their heads" at up-ports and HD remakes as much as they would original games for whatever company.

In summary: speak for yourself and don't act like only Nintendo's showings are only intriguing to the "Nintendo fanbase."
 
I think historically, IGN readers have always been in majority Nintendo fans. I might be wrong here but that's always the feeling I got. Back when I was a regular reader of IGN and frequenting their message boards every day I always got the impression that there were more Nintendo fans then fans of other consoles. The Nintendo related boards showed more activity and back when Matt was running the show every time he let slip any little clue about Nintendo's future the boards would almost implode. I miss those days. :)

So I guess this is normal. I don't think it necessarily reflects where the industry is going. I mean, hopefully it does. I would love Nintendo to be doing better then they are now.
Again though, Nintendo lost the same poll last year. Matt's been gone almost a half decade now, I'm not sure if your experience on the site then is that reflective of what it might be today.
 
I'm not writing it off as some conspiracy, i'm writting it off as something insignificant because the majority of gamers would come with an entirely different result from that poll. And as much you guys hate sales talk, the sales numbers are the illustration of that. Wii U will remain in 3rd place.

ok..? so where's your poll? I'm assuming it had a much larger sample size than IGN's, considering how insignificant that one is to you.
 
That says it all, really. All Nintendo needs to do is announce games. Doesn't matter which games, as long as they're Nintendo! Automatic win!.. for the Nintendo fanbase. Meanwhile the rest of us look at those games and shake our heads. Which means Nintendo did not win.

They announced games in 2013 and didn't "win". Your argument just fell on its face.
 
I'm not. But a lot of the Nintendo fan base is too rabid to be taken seriously, which does annoy me.

The moment someone dares speak out in a way that's even somewhat negative toward Nintendo, they pounce (as evidenced by the number of responses my post got).

It's tragically hilarious.
This is typical fanboy behavior,and not exclusive to Nintendo fanboys.
 
I'm not writing it off as some conspiracy, i'm writting it off as something insignificant because the majority of gamers would come with an entirely different result from that poll. And as much you guys hate sales talk, the sales numbers are the illustration of that. Wii U will remain in 3rd place.

But IGN is the biggest game site, and Nintendo won the biggest vote. Not quite the majority, but in the Overall category, they won 49%, which is damn near half the entire vote. If IGN votes overwhelmingly for one winner, why are you assuming that the greater gaming community would vote differently? The common consensus among all gaming media seems to be that Nintendo put on the best show. Where are you getting this data which tells you the majority of gamers think otherwise?
 
That says it all, really. All Nintendo needs to do is announce games. Doesn't matter which games, as long as they're Nintendo! Automatic win!.. for the Nintendo fanbase. Meanwhile the rest of us look at those games and shake our heads. Which means Nintendo did not win.

I'm sure if Nintendo showed up with New Super Mario bros U2, Metroid Other M 2 - the Babying and Cranky Kong Country, they wouldn't be getting the praise they got.

The truth is that in general, Nintendo games are very good. And the stuff they showed this year was pretty refreshing, especially their new IP Splatoon, and their plans to rework Zelda into something it's not been since the original one.
 
I'm not going to keep arguing with you guys. You already know time will prove me right. You're free to enjoy your system and be hopeful for the future, specially the former because the latter is a mistake.
 
I'm not. But a lot of the Nintendo fan base is too rabid to be taken seriously, which does annoy me.

The moment someone dares speak out in a way that's even somewhat negative toward Nintendo, they pounce (as evidenced by the number of responses my post got).

It's tragically hilarious.

So, you pulled a random and terrible theory out of your arsehole to discredit a minor positive for Nintendo, called "Nintendo-fans"-rabid and implied how pathetic (some?) of them are...AND then go on to complain about people taking issue with your terrible post ?

You are the one acting petty here.
 
seriously lay off nintendo. it's as if a wheelchair bound person toppled over and every passerby gave them a ferociously hard kick in the face. soon that person would be dead, but the kicking inexplicably continued. I believe the phrase "beating a dead horse" is applicable here in more ways than one.

pity is what is called for here, not animosity. everyone knows that wiiu is selling terribly, but let them have their moment in the sun. it's not like there's any danger of them dominating videogames as a result. just hold the door open for the old man rather than forcefully shoving him out of the way, it's the only civil thing to do. that's why their exists a "special olympics." it's called charity, I would hate to live in a world without it.

Did you really find it necessary to compare Nintendo to a disabled person and refer to the special olympics as a "charity"?
 
I'm not going to keep arguing with you guys. You already know time will prove me right. You're free to enjoy your system and be hopeful for the future, specially the former because the latter is a mistake.

::waves goodbye::

don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out!
 
I'm not going to keep arguing with you guys. You already know time will prove me right. You're free to enjoy your system and be hopeful for the future, specially the former because the latter is a mistake.

I'm hopeful to get great games in the future. Are you saying that's a mistake and I won't get great games? Or that I won't get games YOU think are great? If so, thank you for deciding for me what games I should think are great. Perhaps I should have you come over and tell me what I should have for dinners in the future. Or maybe you can help me decide how to landscape my backyard, because I'm apparently incapable of making choices based on my own tastes.
 
Look, Nintendo fans aren't excited about E3 because they think it's going to lead us to the promised land of everlasting sales and NPD wins. It's not going to sell well, we know that, we've accepted that. Nintendo fans are excited because even though we know the console is never going to post incredible numbers, Nintendo have shown they're going to do a Jack Sparrow. Rather than bail on the Wii U early and try swimming to shore, they're going to ride it to the finish line with game support. And because they've shown they'll support a console with games even when the sales aren't great, that should mean that when they hop off the Wii U and onto the jetty of next next-gen, they should have gathered enough good will and momentum to at least stand a chance of doing a good deal better.

Look, in GIF terms, it means no-one's expecting this:

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But they're happy that we're at least getting this:

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As opposed to this:

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Wii U isn't doing great. Wii U owners still get great games to play. It's not exactly rocket science why that means Nintendo fans are positive about the most recent E3.

First if all, agreed 150%.

Secondly, I cannot stop laughing at the gif translation of this post. Brilliant. XD
 
seriously lay off nintendo. it's as if a wheelchair bound person toppled over and every passerby gave them a ferociously hard kick in the face. soon that person would be dead, but the kicking inexplicably continued. I believe the phrase "beating a dead horse" is applicable here in more ways than one.

pity is what is called for here, not animosity. everyone knows that wiiu is selling terribly, but let them have their moment in the sun. it's not like there's any danger of them dominating videogames as a result. just hold the door open for the old man rather than forcefully shoving him out of the way, it's the only civil thing to do. that's why their exists a "special olympics." it's called charity, I would hate to live in a world without it.
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I'm not going to keep arguing with you guys. You already know time will prove me right. You're free to enjoy your system and be hopeful for the future, specially the former because the latter is a mistake.

You could at least have the decency to try and appear neutral. Instead, your fanboyism is reeking something fierce. "Your system"? "Time will prove me right"? It's funny because this whole thread is all about Nintendo's performance in E3 which, you know, have already passed, and not about how much Nintendo will win the overall "console wars". And by the context of E3 alone, the consensus here and in other sites is that yes, Nintendo did make a great showing at E3, possibly even outshowing the competition.

If you can't stay in the context of the thread and can't help but feel bitter about how Nintendo is outperforming your desired company on a non-official Internet poll by some website then yeah, you're doing yourself a favor not going this argument route anymore. Go on, shoo.
 
I'm not going to keep arguing with you guys. You already know time will prove me right. You're free to enjoy your system and be hopeful for the future, specially the former because the latter is a mistake.

You forgot to say "YOU WILL PAY FOR THIS CAPTAIN PLANET" to make your post even more cartoonish.
 
Look, Nintendo fans aren't excited about E3 because they think it's going to lead us to the promised land of everlasting sales and NPD wins. It's not going to sell well, we know that, we've accepted that. Nintendo fans are excited because even though we know the console is never going to post incredible numbers, Nintendo have shown they're going to do a Jack Sparrow. Rather than bail on the Wii U early and try swimming to shore, they're going to ride it to the finish line with game support. And because they've shown they'll support a console with games even when the sales aren't great, that should mean that when they hop off the Wii U and onto the jetty of next next-gen, they should have gathered enough good will and momentum to at least stand a chance of doing a good deal better.

Look, in GIF terms, it means no-one's expecting this:

tumblr_ldvux1rTvK1qa8ir9o1_400.gif


But they're happy that we're at least getting this:

jack-sparrow-s-first-scene-o.gif


As opposed to this:

titanic4.gif


Wii U isn't doing great. Wii U owners still get great games to play. It's not exactly rocket science why that means Nintendo fans are positive about the most recent E3.

Great post.
 
I think historically, IGN readers have always been in majority Nintendo fans. I might be wrong here but that's always the feeling I got. Back when I was a regular reader of IGN and frequenting their message boards every day I always got the impression that there were more Nintendo fans then fans of other consoles. The Nintendo related boards showed more activity and back when Matt was running the show every time he let slip any little clue about Nintendo's future the boards would almost implode. I miss those days. :)

So I guess this is normal. I don't think it necessarily reflects where the industry is going. I mean, hopefully it does. I would love Nintendo to be doing better then they are now.

There's some revisionist history going on here. IGN, at least during his past generation has been predominantly non-Ninty to me.
 
Awful, awful post generalisations and stereotypes everywhere. It's like saying Sony fans only like "cinematic games", and xbox fans only like dudebro shooters.

edit:if this a joke post it's to be far more riduclous to be funny otherwise it's just bad trolling (since people actually say this).

Its Chinner. You take him as seriously as you would a sarcastic Anihawk post.
 
Look, Nintendo fans aren't excited about E3 because they think it's going to lead us to the promised land of everlasting sales and NPD wins. It's not going to sell well, we know that, we've accepted that. Nintendo fans are excited because even though we know the console is never going to post incredible numbers, Nintendo have shown they're going to do a Jack Sparrow. Rather than bail on the Wii U early and try swimming to shore, they're going to ride it to the finish line with game support. And because they've shown they'll support a console with games even when the sales aren't great, that should mean that when they hop off the Wii U and onto the jetty of next next-gen, they should have gathered enough good will and momentum to at least stand a chance of doing a good deal better.

Look, in GIF terms, it means no-one's expecting this:

tumblr_ldvux1rTvK1qa8ir9o1_400.gif


But they're happy that we're at least getting this:

jack-sparrow-s-first-scene-o.gif


As opposed to this:

titanic4.gif


Wii U isn't doing great. Wii U owners still get great games to play. It's not exactly rocket science why that means Nintendo fans are positive about the most recent E3.

Perfect.

Also, has anyone ventured into the youtube comments yet? This thread is completely tame by comparison. It's pretty crazy over there.
 
You forgot to say "YOU WILL PAY FOR THIS CAPTAIN PLANET" to make your post even more cartoonish.

I'm laughing too hard at this, literally.

Perfect.

Also, has anyone ventured into the youtube comments yet? This thread is completely tame by comparison. It's pretty crazy over there.

Not yet... Once I get to the office and get my brain ready with two cups of coffee, I *might* be able to handle reading the YT comments without having an aneurism.
 
I'm not going to keep arguing with you guys. You already know time will prove me right. You're free to enjoy your system and be hopeful for the future, specially the former because the latter is a mistake.

So in other words you don't have a leg to stand on since no one is taking your opinions as facts?

Nintendo did do well at E3 and a decent chunk of gamers seem to think so. Over 100,000 people were part of this survey and 49% of them voted for Nintendo in the Overall category which says quite a bit.

No one is saying Nintendo is gonna crush the competition and the Wii-U will turn around overnight but that the future is looking brighter for the troubled console and we know Nintendo isn't going to abandon it the way Sony has abandoned the Vita.

You sit there mocking Nintendo fans for being dismissive yet you do the same exact thing because you didn't like what you saw at E3.

The only thing you're right about is the current sales situation, which mostly relates to the fact that up until E3 there really wasn't much happening for the Wii-U in terms of games to get excited about. Sure there was Smash Bros. coming up but outside of that we didn't have much to sink our teeth into. Now we've got a slew of good games coming and we know support from Nintendo is going to be very solid moving forward. Compare that to Sony who is pretty much dropping the Vita once their current lineup ships leaving it to survive off Indie titles (which you can play just about anywhere else) and third party support which has been very hit and miss it isn't hard to see why people are pleased with Nintendo.

You talk about sales yet completely ignore what happens when Nintendo releases a good title like Mario Kart 8 where the sales exploded. Something tells me as games like Smash Bros., Bayonetta 2, Hyrule Warriors, X, Splatoon, and more release this will give people more and more reasons to purchase a Wii-U. And if it doesn't that doesn't change the fact that there are some really good looking games coming for the Wii-U.

I'm much happier with my Wii-U purchased following E3 than I am with my Vita purchase. I won't be getting a Sony handheld ever again after how they botched the Vita and failed to stick by it. At least with Nintendo I know I'm getting a bunch of really good games and not "Eh this isn't worth it to us, hope you enjoy playing someone else's games!"
 
Perfect.

Also, has anyone ventured into the youtube comments yet? This thread is completely tame by comparison. It's pretty crazy over there.

"Nin-fucking-tendo????? Are you serious? Screw this shit. Almost every game Sony brought on stage had something exclusive, not to mention Uncharted 4, Bloodbourne, The Order. Hell even Microsoft was better. They still had Halo, CrackDown and a better show than Nintendo
Gay Mario fans must have sabotaged the results"
 
As a Sega fan myself, I wanna dispute that, but what the hell, I can have fun with that analogy.

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Still my favorite former 1st party game maker.

agreed brosef. We maybe Zombies, but we still got Soul. I just wish Sega knew the power of their arcade titles and other games.

  1. 4 years isn't too bad. And technically speaking, excluding Skyward Sword, Nintendo Gamecube and Wii were only supported for 4 years.
  2. When Nintendo felt threatened, they cut the GBA life short with a new blue ocean product. Same thing may happen here (not talking about QOL).
  3. Thanks to Apple, people upgrade and expect products sooner than later. I expect PlayStation 4 and Xbox One to both have significantly shorter lifespans than their predecessors (4-5 years). Wii U is not excluded here. This may be why PlayStation 4 was relatively cheap right off the bat.
I can understand that I suppose. But I think they've been heavily invested into building their own ecosystem which requires goodwill among it's customers. Nintendo did a great job of establishing that confidence with their announcements this year. (Star Fox gameplay can't come in soon enough.)

It's becoming increasingly obvious why Nintendo fans dislike 'experience' gaming. They have no life experience.

Take TLOU for example, which is critically rated by the media and gamers alike, but not Nintendo fans. TLOU has great gameplay, but what makes it stand out is it's atmosphere, characters and story. For many us we can relate as we have found our place in society and have friend and family. Just the thought of society collapsing is horrifying, and losing those we love is distressing. The dark turn that humanity is something we can all relate to depending on what your willing to do to get by. This paired with the gameplay which matches the tone explains why TLOU is hailed as a great game.


Nintendo fans have none of that experience to draw upon. In fact, Nintendo fans are similar to that of a garden weed, that soak up all the benefits of their family (the garden) while growing larger and larger while doing serving no purpose and contributing nothing. Eventually they die, or you throw them into another garden (the state welfare) for someone else to deal with.

Maybe if Nintendo made a cinematic game about what games to buy with your mum's money finally them Nintendo fans would get it.
Your sarcasm is amusing Chinner, but it will never be funnier than the real thing!
They came in last for me. Not interested in a single game they showed, and made me less interested in a Wii U than before E3 cause this direction of games like splatoon, more mario zelda and smash, captain toad, etc just isn't for me and never will be.
I'm sure most "core" gamers feel the same so, unfortunately for them, this "victory" will mean squat when it comes to "saving" the Wii U.

Idk how much relevance this poll has. While Nintendo did have a great E3, most of the people who voted for Nintendo probably already had a Wii U imo or were strongly considering getting one soon.

GameFAQs has a huge Nintendo preference amongst users.

Fuck you it's just an internet poll it means nothing I refuse to acknowledge positive action from Nintendo everyone in the poll is stupid Wii U sales are shit
lol this one is sarcasm but its hilarious^

That says it all, really. All Nintendo needs to do is announce games. Doesn't matter which games, as long as they're Nintendo! Automatic win!.. for the Nintendo fanbase. Meanwhile the rest of us look at those games and shake our heads. Which means Nintendo did not win.

I'm not writing it off as some conspiracy, i'm writting it off as something insignificant because the majority of gamers would come with an entirely different result from that poll. And as much you guys hate sales talk, the sales numbers are the illustration of that. Wii U will remain in 3rd place.

I'm not going to keep arguing with you guys. You already know time will prove me right. You're free to enjoy your system and be hopeful for the future, specially the former because the latter is a mistake.
Stay Gold Baby

The fact that Sony got voted to have a better overall conference compared to MS is just laughable. Shows what community reigns supreme.
Enters Nintendo Thread.
Doesn't discuss Nintendo.

According to the poll it seems like most people agree that Sony had the worst conference. Still feel sorry for the people that went to cinemas to watch it.
Believe it or not most people actually enjoyed it (so I've heard). It served them well to unite people under one roof of positivity.

Where else would you watch movies?
DAYUM!

Welcome to Nintendo Threads. Ain't no party like a Nintendo Party because the Party is making sure the party gets stopped.
I agree that Nintendo "won" E3 but Im still not interested in buying a WiiU.

See this guy I like, why can't most people be honest like him?
 
Also, has anyone ventured into the youtube comments yet? This thread is completely tame by comparison. It's pretty crazy over there.

Reading them now. Very entertaining—I appreciate how much more honest it is than threads like this one. Also, it always impresses me what people will post under their real names.
 
. Over 100,000 people were part of this survey and 49% of them voted for Nintendo in the Overall category which says quite a bit.

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Over 100,000 people who were motivated / felt like voting and made their voice heard...

Think about that for a minute, that's a very big difference to 100,000 IGN visitors....

What does winning even mean ? If it means winning E3 you made your existing supporters the most happy and willing to shout about it in a poll or forum, then yes Nintendo won.


If winning means it influenced non Nintendo console owners to buy the system...that's very different.....that's a business analysis.

I think Nintendo pleased their core fans more than anybody else.

Personally If they brought an excite truck back I would be interested....miss that game.
 
seriously lay off nintendo. it's as if a wheelchair bound person toppled over and every passerby gave them a ferociously hard kick in the face. soon that person would be dead, but the kicking inexplicably continued. I believe the phrase "beating a dead horse" is applicable here in more ways than one.

pity is what is called for here, not animosity. everyone knows that wiiu is selling terribly, but let them have their moment in the sun. it's not like there's any danger of them dominating videogames as a result. just hold the door open for the old man rather than forcefully shoving him out of the way, it's the only civil thing to do. that's why their exists a "special olympics." it's called charity, I would hate to live in a world without it.

Mm. You have a bright future ahead of you.
 
It's really awesome to see that a gaming company receiving a positive reception for trying hard to provide gamers with the fun experiences they strongly desire is met with ire by so many here. Why does it make people mad that Nintendo's efforts at E3 resonated with IGN's readers?
 
seriously lay off nintendo. it's as if a wheelchair bound person toppled over and every passerby gave them a ferociously hard kick in the face. soon that person would be dead, but the kicking inexplicably continued. I believe the phrase "beating a dead horse" is applicable here in more ways than one.

pity is what is called for here, not animosity. everyone knows that wiiu is selling terribly, but let them have their moment in the sun. it's not like there's any danger of them dominating videogames as a result. just hold the door open for the old man rather than forcefully shoving him out of the way, it's the only civil thing to do. that's why their exists a "special olympics." it's called charity, I would hate to live in a world without it.

Wow, its a video game forum to have fun debating a topic in a civil manner, its a poll on IGN. That's all. Your post is way off the chart too much.
 
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