Support NeoGAF

[Skifi28]

Once Helix launches, these numbers will be going massively into the positive.

The solution to people not wanting Xbox hardware is apparently to launch new hardware at a much higher price.

 

[DenchDeckard]

So what games came out in quarter 3 of 2025? I'm trying to understand why the content and services is down compared to last year. And what games came out quarter four of 2025? Because it simply makes no sense for Amy Hood to state that content and services will be down by at least -13% next quarter.

• Avowed - February 18
• Grounded 2 - July 29 (early access)
• South of Midnight - April 8
• Keeper - November 14

I might be missing more and I only included first party titles which narrows the list down substantially. If I included multiplat games like Doom, Oblivion, etc, it might paint a better picture for Xbox, but this is only about their first party, only on Xbox titles released in 2025. Even that comes with the caveat that all of these games can either be bought on Steam or will be/did release later on PS5 (like South of Midnight).

If this is all MS has to offer first party wise, it doesn't surprise me that game revenue is down so much. Also keep in mind that MS doesn't disclose sales numbers, just "pLaYeRs EnGaGeD" and all that horseshit so getting actual hard sales numbers is damn near impossible for Xbox games.

Asha Sharma just walked straight into a the 11th circle of Dante's Inferno trying to turn this game company around my dude. This is worse than I thought it would be.

They also released Indiana Jones in December 2024. So, they actually had quite a lot of games launching late 2024 and Q1 2025

The solution to people not wanting Xbox hardware is apparently to launch new hardware at a much higher price.

Theres people still buying consoles. Let's not forget that the price of the xbox rose for the first time in May 2025 so these numbers are comparing to a lower priced xbox. They then had a second price increase later in the year. This explains the hardware drop to some extent.

 

[Skifi28]

Theres people still buying consoles. Let's not forget that the price of the xbox rose for the first time in May 2025 so these numbers are comparing to a lower priced xbox. They then had a second price increase later in the year. This explains the hardware drop to some extent.

And the new console or whatever it is will reportedly be much more expensive so expecting it to save hardware numbers in the long run is delusional. They first need to figure how to make hardware desirable in the first place, otherwise just releasing new one when the old is not selling is pointless.

 

[Mr_JPF]

People are acting like this is a Wii U level bomb but it's actually a Nintendo 64 type of situation. The Series X/S started out strong (it was selling even more than the 360 during it's first two years) then the sales momentum cratered in the third year, and it's been selling progressively less and less every year since then ( total sales will range from 30 to 40 million max, very similar to the N64 ).

 

[IlGialloMondadori]

MS buying ABK is the biggest blunder in gaming history. Bobby played MS like a fiddle!

 

[IlGialloMondadori]

People are acting like this is a Wii U level bomb but it's actually a Nintendo 64 type of situation. The Series X/S started out strong (it was selling even more than the 360 during it's first two years) then the sales momentum cratered, and it's been selling progressively less and less until it's inevitable discontinued in a few years ( with total sales ranging from 30 to 40 million max, very similar to the N64 ).

Just without the great exclusive games Nintendo had, creativity, competent leadership, direction, and dedication to gaming.

 

[DenchDeckard]

And the new console or whatever it is will reportedly be much more expensive so expecting it to save hardware numbers in the long run is delusional. They first need to figure how to make hardware desirable in the first place, otherwise just releasing new one when the old is not selling is pointless.

I will say this for any device. The price of the device is important to an extent. BUT, much more important is the VALUE. If the value of the device is there, its a good product it will sell.

Sure, it wont sell as much as a cheaper device in the long run. But, let's not think a cheap device will sell because its cheap. The series S proves that.

Let's just make a hypothetical example and I know I have said it a few times, but if this box is $1,299 but performs like a PC that costs $2k or $2.5k then there you go.

On the flip side. If the PS6 is $699 and is on similar performance as this gen then it is dead in the water.

The actual facts are, we know nothing. Even the "reports" you mention are from insiders and leakers who can look at a chips die size and make a guess what the box will cost, but they dont actually have any FACTS to share. we simply do not know what its going to cost vs the competition.

 

[TheGodfather07]

Funny how most of the xbox fans never enter these threads. They just can't bare the truth and reality of the situation.

 

[Mr_JPF]

Just without the great exclusive games Nintendo had, creativity, competent leadership, direction, and dedication to gaming.

The N64 had great exclusives , but competent leadership ? Just a reminder the GameCube sold even less than the N64 ( around 20 million ) , that's the exact opposite of competent leadership. The big difference between Xbox and Nintendo is that there is no visionary working at that company that could create a revolutionary console like the Wii to save the console business.

 

[Mownoc]

People are acting like this is a Wii U level bomb but it's actually a Nintendo 64 type of situation. The Series X/S started out strong (it was selling even more than the 360 during it's first two years) then the sales momentum cratered, and it's been selling progressively less and less until it's inevitable discontinued in a few years ( with total sales ranging from 30 to 40 million max, very similar to the N64 ).

In lifetime sales sure it's closer to N64.

In current sales it's far closer to WiiU. N64 In it's last fiscal year before GC release sold more than Xbox did last year. This year Xbox is going to be lucky to do half that. It's going to be approaching WiiU 2016 levels.

Xbox current performance is WiiU level. Their current momentum is horrific.

 

[Astray]

That's a dumb take, they can't recoup the whole cost now that way and there is nothing to gain by selling off the only things that can bring in more money over time.

They are not recouping the full amount anytime soon.

Sometimes you sell good things because they don't fit into your strategy to begin with.

 

[Gilgalaad]

 

[DenchDeckard]

Funny how most of the xbox fans never enter these threads. They just can't bare the truth and reality of the situation.

I don't know why they wouldnt enter, because the numbers are not actually THAT bad when you look at them objectively.

 

[DenchDeckard]

In lifetime sales sure it's closer to N64.

In current sales it's far closer to WiiU. N64 In it's last fiscal year before GC release sold more than Xbox did last year. This year Xbox is going to be lucky to do half that. It's going to be approaching WiiU 2016 levels.

Xbox current performance is WiiU level. Their current momentum is horrific.

Factually, they are actually cheaper than the competition now if they can hold that pricing, they will see more sales this year so it could improve. But, I am sure they will need to up the price of the console soon and then that advantage will be gone.

 

[Mownoc]

Factually, they are actually cheaper than the competition now if they can hold that pricing, they will see more sales this year so it could improve. But, I am sure they will need to up the price of the console soon and then that advantage will be gone.

Are you talking about Series S here? Because Series X and PS5 are both the same $650 RRP now. Series X was increased to that in a second price rise in November.

It's also worth noting the 33% YoY drop reported here is revenue.

So a 33% drop in revenue while being $150 more expensive. Unit sales have dropped much more than 33% YoY. 2025 was Xbox's worst on record, 2026 will be brutal.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

I don't know why they wouldnt enter, because the numbers are not actually THAT bad when you look at them objectively.

Maybe. Maybe not.

But I really want to know how this somehow justifies that going back to exclusivity to an ever shrinking base will someone save them. I want to see them make THAT argument.

Outer Worlds 2, Indiana Jones and Doom Dark Ages all sold rather mid on Playstation. Didn't they also sell rather poorly on Xbox and PC as well? Maybe the masses just wasn't interested in those games, despite them being quite good.

 

[CentralScrutinizer]

MS buying ABK is the biggest blunder in gaming history. Bobby played MS like a fiddle!

For real. American economics / corporatism is just a game of hot potato with assets and Bobby pulled off what everyone in his position wish they could do: build a massive business and sell it at peak value and walk the fuck away.

 

[Pedro Motta]

Once Helix launches, these numbers will be going massively into the positive.

 

[Mownoc]

I don't know why they wouldnt enter, because the numbers are not actually THAT bad when you look at them objectively.

I don't know how you can say they aren't that bad lol.

Last year was the worst for Xbox hardware sales on record. This year they're dropping massively again.

A 33% drop in revenue when the console has had a 30% price increase would be about a 50% drop in unit sales.

Selling half the units compared to the first quarter of their worst year ever is definitely "THAT bad."

 

[CentralScrutinizer]

I don't know how you can say they aren't that bad lol.

Last year was the worst for Xbox hardware sales on record. This year they're dropping massively again.

A 33% drop in revenue when the console has had a 30% price increase would be about a 50% drop in unit sales.

Selling half the units compared to the first quarter of their worst year ever is definitely "THAT bad."

Hardware being down ONLY 33% is a miracle considering their entire first party lineup (sans gears) for this year is already committed to PS5. Who the fuck would even buy an Xbox last quarter?

 

[Mr.Phoenix]

Imo Xbox can come back if they want the major problem being the *if they want* part.

Things are never set in stone and Xbox Series still had somewhat an audience despite evrything.

But it require to learn from their mistakes and do efforts (what Nintendo did following their bad periods) that will show results in long term.

The problem with this is that MS has never seemed to learn from its mistakes, the mistake for Xbox was going into the console business to begin with. That's truly always been the real issue with MS. Their "roots", are Windows OS and PC, they wanted to have a living room and gaming presence. They should have done that as a super accessible PC gaming platform, not tried to do that as a console.

To put this into perspective, Xbox, has likley never made more profit than Valve... in fact, an argument can be made that the Xbox division has never been profitable as a whole.

Its overreaction.

2% is meh.

Thats why I brought up Helix. It will go way into the positive once it comes out.

Crazy thing is... you aren't wrong.

Like I said before, its easy to have a YOY % win when your floor is very low to begin with. Chances are Helix can sell 1M units in one quater, and by that time that would represent a 1000% increase YOY. Percentages are funny like that.

The solution to people not wanting Xbox hardware is apparently to launch new hardware at a much higher price.

The solution to Xbox hardware period... is to compete primarily in the space they always should have been in to begin with. They do not have to make hardware that is price matched to Playstation, they have to make hardware that is in the same gaming space with Valve. The PC space has always been where MS fight should have been. My concern is that even now with valve slowly taking it away from them, they do not see it.

People are acting like this is a Wii U level bomb but it's actually a Nintendo 64 type of situation. The Series X/S started out strong (it was selling even more than the 360 during it's first two years) then the sales momentum cratered, and it's been selling progressively less and less every year since ( total sales will range from 30 to 40 million max, very similar to the N64 ).

No. This is worse.

This is worse than any fuck up in gaming ever. For context... in all the fuck ups the WiiU was, nintendo barely lost like $1B to that entire endavour. MS spent almost $80B in a 18 month period. At the time of the ABK + Zenimax aquisitions, I kept saying it, how ridiculous it was that MS ws spending more money in one year, than any gaming platform makes as profit in 4-5 years and how that would backfire because they do not have the user base to sustatin that kinda investment. And now look where we are.

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

People are acting like this is a Wii U level bomb but it's actually a Nintendo 64 type of situation. The Series X/S started out strong (it was selling even more than the 360 during it's first two years) then the sales momentum cratered in the third year, and it's been selling progressively less and less every year since then ( total sales will range from 30 to 40 million max, very similar to the N64 ).

The only reason why series started out "strong" was because their competition couldn't produce units until like late 2022.
As soon as the PS5 started to be everywhere by 2023 Series sales just stopped.

This gen could've been even worse for Microsoft.

 

[CentralScrutinizer]

The only reason why series started out "strong" was because their competition couldn't produce units until like late 2022.
As soon as the PS5 started to be everywhere by 2023 Series sales just stopped.

This gen could've been even worse for Microsoft.

That timeline coincided with Xbox completely dropping the ball between 2022-2023 with first party software too. Every game / exclusive released was a disappointment and did nothing to sell the system. So it wasn't as simple as "PS5 was finally in full production." Are we forgetting how horribly Xbox shit the bed with red fall being their only game for six months followed up by starfields disappointment and forza being an absolute train wreck also? Every single game for 2023 was an anti-system seller because of what they were.

Also let me make it clear, it's not the consumers fault for rejecting these games and Xbox failing post 2022, it's Xbox fault for releasing bad software and shitting the bed, which is why it's HILARIOUS, Matt Booty got a promotion. He was directly responsible for this software output.

Spencer stopped paying attention because he was too busy choking on ABK and Matt Booty was completely asleep AND drunk at the wheel.

 

[Tobimacoss]

The problem with this is that MS has never seemed to learn from its mistakes, the mistake for Xbox was going into the console business to begin with. That's truly always been the real issue with MS. Their "roots", are Windows OS and PC, they wanted to have a living room and gaming presence. They should have done that as a super accessible PC gaming platform, not tried to do that as a console.

To put this into perspective, Xbox, has likley never made more profit than Valve... in fact, an argument can be made that the Xbox division has never been profitable as a whole.

Crazy thing is... you aren't wrong.

Like I said before, its easy to have a YOY % win when your floor is very low to begin with. Chances are Helix can sell 1M units in one quater, and by that time that would represent a 1000% increase YOY. Percentages are funny like that.

The solution to Xbox hardware period... is to compete primarily in the space they always should have been in to begin with. They do not have to make hardware that is price matched to Playstation, they have to make hardware that is in the same gaming space with Valve. The PC space has always been where MS fight should have been. My concern is that even now with valve slowly taking it away from them, they do not see it.

No. This is worse.

This is worse than any fuck up in gaming ever. For context... in all the fuck ups the WiiU was, nintendo barely lost like $1B to that entire endavour. MS spent almost $80B in a 18 month period. At the time of the ABK + Zenimax aquisitions, I kept saying it, how ridiculous it was that MS ws spending more money in one year, than any gaming platform makes as profit in 4-5 years and how that would backfire because they do not have the user base to sustatin that kinda investment. And now look where we are.

Which gaming platform makes $80 billion profits in 4-5 years?

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

That timeline coincided with Xbox completely dropping the ball between 2022-2023 with first party software too. Every game / exclusive released was a disappointment and did nothing to sell the system. So it wasn't as simple as "PS5 was finally in full production." Are we forgetting how horribly Xbox shit the bed with red fall being their only game for six months followed up by starfields disappointment and forza being an absolute train wreck also? Every single game for 2023 was an anti-system seller because of what they were.

Also let me make it clear, it's not the consumers fault for rejecting these games and Xbox failing post 2022, it's Xbox fault for releasing bad software and shitting the bed, which is why it's HILARIOUS, Matt Booty got a promotion. He was directly responsible for this software output.

Spencer stopped paying attention because he was too busy choking on ABK and Matt Booty was completely asleep AND drunk at the wheel.

You speak as if Playstation was having a lot of exclusive content around that time (2022/2023). Specially as their games were hitting PC as well.

 

[Mownoc]

in all the fuck ups the WiiU was, nintendo barely lost like $1B to that entire endavour.

We'll never truly know because the figures are mixed in with the 3DS. But the WiiU likely lost several billion dollars.

The figures may only show around a $1B loss for 2012-2014 but 3DS profits are lessening the blow.

The WiiU lost enough to completely wipeout any profit made by the 3DS.

 

[Negotiator101]

Microsoft needs to put focus on their studios and create new IP, their current games won't cut it for the long term. They also need to put serious money behind Elder Scrolls as that is one of their only promising upcoming games. It shouldn't just be building off the Starfield engine, it needs a whole new one.

Forza Horizon 6 will sell loads buddy don't worry about that, you're right about Elder Scrolls being one their promising upcoming game's along with all the others, at least you got that right

 

[Cumulus]

Xbox is just another (albeit big) publisher now, if they like it or not. No one gives a fuck about them as a platform anymore and their hardware is irrelvant.

The one thing I´d like to ask Nadella is why they are even keeping it. What do they hope to get from the brand? Is this still about living room presence? Because this will never get anywhere near the margins MS is used to from its other departments.

 

[CentralScrutinizer]

You speak as if Playstation was having a lot of exclusive content around that time (2022/2023). Specially as their games were hitting PC as well.

Sony had GT7, horizon FW, GOWR, and Spider-Man 2 in that same time frame. Let's be real here. Xbox shit the bed those years on software quality. Sony shit the bed in 2023 specifically in regards to quantity but they still had quality exclusives.

Bad games don't sell consoles, good games do, even if that's only 2 good games a year.

 

[Tobimacoss]

That timeline coincided with Xbox completely dropping the ball between 2022-2023 with first party software too. Every game / exclusive released was a disappointment and did nothing to sell the system. So it wasn't as simple as "PS5 was finally in full production." Are we forgetting how horribly Xbox shit the bed with red fall being their only game for six months followed up by starfields disappointment and forza being an absolute train wreck also? Every single game for 2023 was an anti-system seller because of what they were.

Also let me make it clear, it's not the consumers fault for rejecting these games and Xbox failing post 2022, it's Xbox fault for releasing bad software and shitting the bed, which is why it's HILARIOUS, Matt Booty got a promotion. He was directly responsible for this software output.

Spencer stopped paying attention because he was too busy choking on ABK and Matt Booty was completely asleep AND drunk at the wheel.

How was Matt Booty responsible for Bethesda output? September 2020 was the acquisition announcement, acquisition completed March 2021, Bethesda was run as independent subsidiary and they released Deathloop, GhostWire Tokyo, HiFi Rush, Redfall, Starfield during those 2.5 years. Most failed critically or commercially or both.

Matt Booty had nothing to do with any of those. He only became the overseer of ALL 3 subsidiary groups, after the ABK merger completed in September 2023, with the MS Gaming reorganization. After that Bethesda released Indiana Jones, Doom The Dark Ages, Oblivion Remastered.

The one to blame for poor Bethesda publisher releases was Pete Hines or whomever was in charge of Zenimax. Booty also wasn't responsible for Black Ops 6 and 7 quality not being up to standard.

The reorganization they did with Bethesda studios, getting rid of Tango, Roundhouse, Arcane Austin was good overall. Zenimax was simply lost as a publisher, and would've bankrupted/crashed hard if MS hadn't bought them out.

Getting rid of Mike Ybarra and replacing with Johanna Faries has also been good for Blizzard, they are back on track with Diablo, Overwatch, WOW franchises, Starcraft franchises.

The one that Matt Booty failed on was Halo Infinite but that had bigger issues with the studio and engine. He has had other successes or ones likely to be successes like Play Ground Games, Obsidian, InXile.

 

[DeltaPolarBear]

They sold 2M in 2024.
2025 was likely 1M or lower.

I'd estimate they're almost at 0 now.

I am in agreement with you, but I feel others might want to see the actual numbers:
Just a post i made a while back.

Take-Two told us that Xbox Series sold 27million units total in 2023, and 2 million in 2024 at November. Mat Piscatella told IGN that Xbox Series sales dropped 70% between 2024 to 2025 year over year.

The only unknown here is the 1 month missing in the Dec of 2024. But unless there was a magical bump in December 2024, Xbox Series didn't reach 30million sales at the end of 2025.

And if there was to be another 70% drop in 2026, there wouldn't be enough sales left to EVER reach 30million.

I mentioned before, but i doubt Xbox Series is still in production. There is not enough demand to make any more.

 

[bitbydeath]

Forza Horizon 6 will sell loads buddy don't worry about that, you're right about Elder Scrolls being one their promising upcoming game's along with all the others, at least you got that right

 

[Esppiral]

Funny how most of the xbox fans never enter these threads. They just can't bare the truth and reality of the situation.

On the other hand Sony fans, majority of gaf, is having an orgasm right now.

 

[Alan Wake]

Well, they did this to themselves.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Are you talking about Series S here? Because Series X and PS5 are both the same $650 RRP now. Series X was increased to that in a second price rise in November.

It's also worth noting the 33% YoY drop reported here is revenue.

So a 33% drop in revenue while being $150 more expensive. Unit sales have dropped much more than 33% YoY. 2025 was Xbox's worst on record, 2026 will be brutal.

I don't know how you can say they aren't that bad lol.

Last year was the worst for Xbox hardware sales on record. This year they're dropping massively again.

A 33% drop in revenue when the console has had a 30% price increase would be about a 50% drop in unit sales.

Selling half the units compared to the first quarter of their worst year ever is definitely "THAT bad."

Completely agree on the numbers side amounting to more units drop off. What did Xbox sell in Q1 2025? Thats the info we need to know, really. Did the sales flatline from May onwards when the price increases happened or before?

They had a few games launching in Q1 2025 and Indy in December 2024 so those could have driven some sales. Until we know the data, we can only say a 33% drop in revenue is bad, which it is.

The other drops are not that bad at all, if we are working in the realms of reality.

 

[CentralScrutinizer]

How was Matt Booty responsible for Bethesda output? September 2020 was the acquisition announcement, acquisition completed March 2021, Bethesda was run as independent subsidiary and they released Deathloop, GhostWire Tokyo, HiFi Rush, Redwall, Starfield during those 2.5 years. Most failed critically or commercially or both.

Matt Booty had nothing to do with any of those. He only became the overseer of ALL 3 subsidiary groups, after the ABK merger completed in September 2023, with the MS Gaming reorganization. After that Bethesda released Indiana Jones, Doom The Dark Ages, Oblivion Remastered.

The one to blame for poor Bethesda publisher releases was Pete Hines or whomever was in charge of Zenimax. Booty also wasn't responsible for Black Ops 6 and 7 quality not being up to standard.

The reorganization they did with Bethesda studios, getting rid of Tango, Roundhouse, Arcane Austin was good overall. Zenimax was simply lost as a publisher, and would've bankrupted/crashed hard if MS hadn't bought them out.

Getting rid of Mike Ybarra and replacing with Johanna Faries has also been good for Blizzard, they are back on track with Diablo, Overwatch, WOW franchises, Starcraft franchises.

The one that Matt Booty failed on was Halo Infinite but that had bigger issues with the studio and engine. He has had other successes or ones likely to be successes like Play Ground Games, Obsidian, InXile.

Fair enough, Phil Spencer was too busy choking on ABK to acknowledge his own development studios were on fire.

 

[MrTired]

I will say this for any device. The price of the device is important to an extent. BUT, much more important is the VALUE. If the value of the device is there, its a good product it will sell.

Sure, it wont sell as much as a cheaper device in the long run. But, let's not think a cheap device will sell because its cheap. The series S proves that.

Let's just make a hypothetical example and I know I have said it a few times, but if this box is $1,299 but performs like a PC that costs $2k or $2.5k then there you go.

On the flip side. If the PS6 is $699 and is on similar performance as this gen then it is dead in the water.

The actual facts are, we know nothing. Even the "reports" you mention are from insiders and leakers who can look at a chips die size and make a guess what the box will cost, but they dont actually have any FACTS to share. we simply do not know what its going to cost vs the competition.

I beg your pardon. In that scenario of yours PS6 would sell an order of magnitude ( x10) more than Xbox Helix regardless of "value" it brings. For 95% of people were never shopping in the price range of $1299 PC let alone $2000 so Helix isn't in their consideration.

Don't believe me, well Nintendo Switch 2 has sold more than the other PC handles combined in it first 6 months. It's on pace to sell in 2 years what took Xbox Series 6 years even though it provides lesser experiences than the series S.
Oh the NSW2 is unique, well than the Steamdeck has sold between x5 and X10 more than the PC handhelds and it still no where near outselling the NSW on a month to month basis. A console that came out in 2017 and now has a successor on the market.

The Series X has been the more powerful and cheaper device at times in this generation by $100/$150 and the masses still choose PS5. How much more when the price like that. For it not to be the case Xbox would need more than exclusive games.
They would need unique experience ( talking like new genre, new gameplay mechanics that couldn't be replicated on another hardware.

 

[DenchDeckard]

I beg your pardon. In that scenario of yours PS6 would sell an order of magnitude ( x10) more than Xbox Helix regardless of "value" it brings. For 95% of people were never shopping in the price range of $1299 PC let alone $2000 so Helix isn't in their consideration.

Don't believe me, well Nintendo Switch 2 has sold more than the other PC handles combined in it first 6 months. It's on pace to sell in 2 years what took Xbox Series 6 years even though it provides lesser experiences than the series S.
Oh the NSW2 is unique, well than the Steamdeck has sold between x5 and X10 more than the PC handhelds and it still no where near outselling the NSW on a month to month basis. A console that came out in 2017 and now has a successor on the market.

The Series X has been the more powerful and cheaper device at times in this generation by $100/$150 and the masses still choose PS5. How much more when the price like that. For it not to be the case Xbox would need more than exclusive games.
They would need unique experience ( talking like new genre, new gameplay mechanics that couldn't be replicated on another hardware.

I will stress once again, as I always have.

I believe Xbox will NEVER outsell Sony or Playstation and I have never claimed they will. When I say a good device can sell. That doesnt mean it will OUTSELL its competition.

We need to get away from the warrior mentality that it is one box vs another. Sony won and wiped the floor with Xbox this generation. Does that mean Xbox can't make a good product in the future? of course they can.

 

[kpopSuperstar]

The context here is that Microsoft makes so much money that they can support Xbox with no problem, it's just a matter of how long they bother doing it.

 

[Astral_lion02]

This is interesting info, thanks.

Do we know what Xbox was down yoy in 2025 Vs 2024 for this quarter? And what this quarters numbers were in 2024?

Then we can see what 33 percent down actually equates to.

It's something like this:

Xbox hardware sales revenue (accessories include):

Jan - Mar 25: ~$510M
Jan - Mar 24: ~$350M
Jan - Mar 25: ~$330M
Jan - Mar 26: ~$220M

Last year the jan-mar quarter was only down 6% so it's significantly worse this time.

 

[Tobimacoss]

Fair enough, Phil Spencer was too busy choking on ABK to acknowledge his own development studios were on fire.

Matt Booty mainly oversaw Xbox Game Studios, and Xbox Global Publishing until October 2023. And him overseeing Bethesda and ABK since is simply more of a protocol, as those publishers run their own publishing and quality control. Like I said, the restructuring and replacing of Bethesda/Zenimax and Blizzard CEOs has only helped those publishers regain their footing.

If you want to blame Matt Booty for something, it should've been Forza Motorsport, he should've seen that crash incoming from miles away. Problem with XGS studios is that the studios MS bought, the AAA games take 5-7 years to finish, many of those studios were AA to begin with, and almost on brink of bankruptcy. So things take time to get sorted out. If Gears E Day, next Halo, Fable, Clockwork Revolution, State of Decay 3, whatever else I can't remember, don't turn out to be 8.5 atleast, then blame Booty and fire him.

 

[Horseganador]

The expected results for Xbox are quite bad; games and services are declining despite the price increase (many will have cancelled their GP subscriptions), and the hardware is almost dead. The only way left for them to save the brand is to release their games everywhere they can; they have no other option.

 

[DenchDeckard]

It's something like this:

Xbox hardware sales revenue (accessories include):

Jan - Mar 25: ~$510M
Jan - Mar 24: ~$350M
Jan - Mar 25: ~$330M
Jan - Mar 26: ~$220M

Last year the jan-mar quarter was only down 6% so it's significantly worse this time.

Thanks for this. Yeah, the hardware revenue drop is significant! - Asha can turn it around with her perfect teeth! /jk

 

[Astray]

Hardware being down ONLY 33% is a miracle considering their entire first party lineup (sans gears) for this year is already committed to PS5. Who the fuck would even buy an Xbox last quarter?

This is hardware REVENUE.

Actual hardware sales figures have dropped closer to %50 as Mownoc mentioned, the disparity comes from the price increase.

 

[DenchDeckard]

The expected results for Xbox are quite bad; games and services are declining despite the price increase (many will have cancelled their GP subscriptions), and the hardware is almost dead. The only way left for them to save the brand is to release their games everywhere they can; they have no other option.

They absolutely have other options, hence the way Asha is talking about Xbox.

 

[Fabieter]

Sucks but looking at the competition which is close to 50% down from the top its not too bad.

 

[SHAKEZ]

Quick Asha, release another corporate speak piece! We need to save Xbox!

 

[wolffy66]

This is not remotely surprising.

I am enjoying seeing those saying that going back to exclusive to an ever shrinking base will save them.

Pure fucking comedy gold.

If they want to go to exclusive, they should go exclusive to Playstation.

Nothing will save them. But keeping their only assets available on other platforms is clearly making it worse. They either try again or just close shop but keeping it status quo isnt an answer, its not even an effort

 

[wolffy66]

One thing that Kotick consistently did was strike temp exclusivity deals with Sony and Xbox.

Microsoft needs to follow the same tack and start partnering up with Sony/Nintendo on promoting games. Asha has an opportunity to start focusing Microsoft as a 3rd party publisher.

They would likely just sell everything off I'd think. They wanted sub revenue.

 

[Unknown?]

People are acting like this is a Wii U level bomb but it's actually a Nintendo 64 type of situation. The Series X/S started out strong (it was selling even more than the 360 during it's first two years) then the sales momentum cratered in the third year, and it's been selling progressively less and less every year since then ( total sales will range from 30 to 40 million max, very similar to the N64 ).

I say it's more akin to a Wii 2010 collapse just without doing so well on the beginning. Wii was on fire 2006-2009 but by 2010 it completely collapsed and had no momentum going into Wii U. In 2012 they were even going for like $89 and still wasn't selling.