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IGN Versus Results E3 2014: Nintendo Wins Everything
- Thread starter Askherserenity
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You are not taking console wars too seriously, son!!!
On a serious note, I just don't see why people are ganging up on the result of the poll. It's the E3 show people. Those who voted based their decision on what they saw on the presscons and all that stuff on the E3 week. Sony won the polls last year as far as I know. If "Nintendo won E3" was because of "rabid Nintendo fans" "voting like there's no tomorrow" then why aren't they winning the polls year after year?
As a multi-console owner myself, I'm satisfied with all the E3 shows of the big 3. I just find Nintendo's one to be the best presentation overall this year, and I think a good amount of viewers (and some press as well), plus this IGN poll, agree.
This isn't about business analysis though and who will sell more systems, this is about who had the better E3. Considering Microsoft and Sony numbers (for PS4 and Xbox One) outnumber Nintendo's numbers 2 to 1 this is a pretty big win for Nintendo and recognition that their new strategy for E3 is working.
Sales numbers come with releasing quality software and actually supporting a system. Mario Kart 8 proves that Nintendo fans are willing to spend money and in large numbers when presented with something worth owning. It's fairly obvious based off E3 that this is Nintendo's plan.
As for Excite Truck I'd much rather see a new Excite Bike done in the same vain as Trials (in terms of graphics and presentation). Give me a sweet track editor, the ability to share online, a decent stunt system, and the ability to race friends and I'm sold.
Arc Christelle
Member
But seriously. I was just talking to some friends about it and they really did love the effect of the Nintendo Treehouse format. It'd simply made e3.
Look, Nintendo fans aren't excited about E3 because they think it's going to lead us to the promised land of everlasting sales and NPD wins. It's not going to sell well, we know that, we've accepted that. Nintendo fans are excited because even though we know the console is never going to post incredible numbers, Nintendo have shown they're going to do a Jack Sparrow. Rather than bail on the Wii U early and try swimming to shore, they're going to ride it to the finish line with game support. And because they've shown they'll support a console with games even when the sales aren't great, that should mean that when they hop off the Wii U and onto the jetty of next next-gen, they should have gathered enough good will and momentum to at least stand a chance of doing a good deal better.
Look, in GIF terms, it means no-one's expecting this:
But they're happy that we're at least getting this:
As opposed to this:
Wii U isn't doing great. Wii U owners still get great games to play. It's not exactly rocket science why that means Nintendo fans are positive about the most recent E3.
This is really solid.
Although I would say people are still holding out hope for that magic comeback based on the "who bought a wii u today/yesterday/tomorrow" threads that are constantly being started.
I'm rather enjoying how IGN viewer opinion suddenly doesn't matter when it reflects something positive about Nintendo when that same viewership is used to explain how the Digital Event was a bad idea because it doesn't reach out to the wider audience like IGN viewership.
Contradiction: it's what's for dinner.
#dead
Contradiction: it's what's for dinner.
#dead
Some people are just immune to logic.
AcademicSaucer
Member
Best post in GAF
Vita means life
2nd best post in GAF
Is there a way in this forum to suscribe to a user's posts ?
That was pretty good
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
as usual when it comes to Nintendo threads, things get nasty soon enough. Some people just cannot accept that the company does something right eventually
Really?
And the crown jewel post
And you are talking about people shitting on Nintendo threads? LOL.
Was he actually referring to something? Did someone actually say that?
He does kind of have a point, though. I don't venture into threads about games or consoles that I'm not interested in just to tell everyone how their game/console of choice is bad and how much I disagree with them. There's nothing wrong with respectfully disagreeing with someone, but to intentionally seek out opportunities to put people down for their choices is mind boggling to me. I realize that is not how the Internet works, but I'll never understand why that is. Not everyone has to like the same things, that variety is what makes humans great. If we spent more time embracing differences than shouting at them, the world would be a better place. At the very least, learn to ignore things you don't like, and let other people like them without having to hear you yell about it.
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
Pretty ballsy of Phoenician_Viking to play the 'go through post history to see obvious bias against a console' card.
dragonfart28
Banned
I would totally buy a weed plucking game.
Darth Ghandi
Banned
Look, Nintendo fans aren't excited about E3 because they think it's going to lead us to the promised land of everlasting sales and NPD wins. It's not going to sell well, we know that, we've accepted that. Nintendo fans are excited because even though we know the console is never going to post incredible numbers, Nintendo have shown they're going to do a Jack Sparrow. Rather than bail on the Wii U early and try swimming to shore, they're going to ride it to the finish line with game support. And because they've shown they'll support a console with games even when the sales aren't great, that should mean that when they hop off the Wii U and onto the jetty of next next-gen, they should have gathered enough good will and momentum to at least stand a chance of doing a good deal better.
Look, in GIF terms, it means no-one's expecting this:
But they're happy that we're at least getting this:
As opposed to this:
Wii U isn't doing great. Wii U owners still get great games to play. It's not exactly rocket science why that means Nintendo fans are positive about the most recent E3.
Beautiful post! Damn near made me cry.
Also wow.
This thread is the salty cream on the mousse that was Nintendos E3.
Love it.
But Nintendo did bring the pain at E3, I'm very anxious to see if they can keep the steam going!
Arc Christelle
Member
Did you really just shamelessly post this guys entire post history on a unrelated thread to get across an unrelated point?
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Man, this is like the pot calling the kettle black from viking
thesolidshark
Member
May Sega forever live on in some form of glory (if I missed an undead pun somewhere, forgive me).
I did not expect to be so entertained in this one.
And thanks to TitusGroan for the sensible write-up and gifs. A lot of my favorite games last and probably this gen will be low-sellers, comparatively. While I'd like the Wii U system, it's games, and other things I like to be decent-or-higher sellers, higher importance is that the games are great.
But who knows, maybe this past E3's showing and Nintendo's great-looking games will eventually work itself out to sustainable sales, or even better numbers than we expected.
He's probably been itching to do it since I caught his Bayonetta slip-up. lol
Natureboy99
Banned
I loved Nintendos direct video over live conference, and I hope everyone adopts this for the future. That said, I think N won simply because they announced games we have been waiting for for years: new Star Fox, New Zelda, New IP. It was like learning your beloved dog isn't dead after all, even though he is slow and stinks you are so happy.
Link?
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=115396408&highlight=#post115396408
His opinion of the first game "evolved" (some time after B2 was announced as a Wii U exclusive).
But that's neither here nor there.
OT, Nintendo did "win" E3 if you look at an overall picture, but as far as the sales talk it won't amount to much. The Wii U will still continue to be the low selling barely-existing from a third-party perspective system that it is now.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Personally I thought Microsoft had the weakest showing. I still went out and bought an X1, but it wasn't because of E3.
CrimsonCommie
Member
Lol damn
tehe
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
Unrelated? He generalized about people shitting up a thread, yet he does the same thing. It´s very related.
Haha, you´re the one to talk.
There´s no slip up what so ever. People change their mind about games all the time. I still remember you saying all kind of bullshit in next gen speculation threads just to make the WiiU looks better.
Derp. Like your opinion "evolved" about the PS4 having i GB of ram.
Hahahaha, that´s rich.
BananaSprinkles
Banned
Where are you getting this? From what I can tell, it isn't 2:1 worldwide or in the US. Did you mean monthly sales in the US?
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
BiGBoSSMk23
A company being excited for their new game is a huge slap in the face to all the fans that liked their old games.
Gotta agree with this. This is coming from a PScamper.
Games, Sony. GAMES. The fuck was that comic book shit?
Dr. Buni
Member
Nintendo's E3 was AMAZING, even though they didn't show much content that appeals to me (besides Smash, which isn't new).
They deserve all recognition they are getting.
When Sony or Microsoft do something similar to the great E3 Nintendo Direct and the Treehouse thing, I will praise them as well.
They deserve all recognition they are getting.
When Sony or Microsoft do something similar to the great E3 Nintendo Direct and the Treehouse thing, I will praise them as well.
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
It originally had 2. Fact, not speculation. But keep digging the hole
Except it was not a fact, just fiction.
When you have nothing to say, resort to youtube videos or gifs.
No, sorry, but it was a fact.
I'm sure if you cared about anything other than personal attacks you could verify this with a mod who has/had access to the developer documentation all the way back to 2011.
But since you don't, let's get back to the topic
Arc Christelle
Member
What else you want me to say? I thought all your responses were hilarious and I pictured you swinging through posters with an axe. You were slaying my sides.
"Slay on Slayer"
I could care less about who won E3 and more about who's learned from past mistakes. What E3 showed me was Nintendo is learning from their past mistakes quicker than usual. They're not just appealing to their fans, but gamers in general. They're bringing the types of games that gamers have asked for. And they're showing gamers what they're bringing in a better way than Sony and MS have done.
Holy Order Sol
Member
Oh me oh my.
Amazeballs
Member
What about the sales numbers? I've been taught by highly credible forum users that the most effective method of measuring quality is through sales metrics, the second most effective is shrill chanting in the crowd. Nintendo E3 had neither of those things! My pseudo-businessman sensibilities can't handle this cognitive dissonance.
Lighten up everyone, it's just an opinion poll. From IGN.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Bayonetta is never worth 10$
Yup, I still have a PS3 but haven't jumped onto the PS4 or the XBone at all. And honestly, not even sure if I will, clearly this all depends on the must have exclusives, if they come. As you pointed out, Nintendo is shit with the 3rd party games, but their 1st party titles are awesome. And for some reason, Sony and Microsoft's (while they do have each of their own exclusives) games just don't really reach out to me like that. HOWEVER, since they are the 3rd party kings you would obviously think I'd have to get one of their consoles to partake in the feast of 3rd party games, but NO! If I've learned anything, with a PC and a 360 controller, you can get your third party fix right off of Steam, pretty cheap lots of times too, thanks to the NeoGAF Buy/Sell/Trade thread
you'll never see Nintendo's games on their so I'm stuck with a Wii U and a PC, the perfect combination (for me at least) this gen!