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EatinOlives
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Sounds like the professor is shit, as with any other professor who goes out of their way to deliberately make their own class stupid difficult for the sake of making it stupid difficult.
One thing you learn from this, I guess, is the fact that in college you'll have plenty of asshole professors like this one. Most profs who do this lack the skills to actually make a class challenging for the students' skills while being manageable. They don't want to seem incompetent by making a blowoff class, so they overcompensate and make it crazy hard for no good reason.
One thing you learn from this, I guess, is the fact that in college you'll have plenty of asshole professors like this one. Most profs who do this lack the skills to actually make a class challenging for the students' skills while being manageable. They don't want to seem incompetent by making a blowoff class, so they overcompensate and make it crazy hard for no good reason.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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Most college teachers will be happy to tell you what to do. Most professors even have office hour where you can come in and talk about things you dont understand. Your teacher is just lazy.
Baraka in the White House
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Ugh, in high school I had an AP biology teacher who "taught" just like yours does. Day two of freshman year of high school and here's a 2000 level biology tome, one of three tests this year will be over the first third. LEARN 2 STUDY, PUSSIES.
Of course the highest grade anyone ever got in his class was like a 78 so he had to give out 20-point curves or else administrators would start getting curious.
Of course the highest grade anyone ever got in his class was like a 78 so he had to give out 20-point curves or else administrators would start getting curious.
AP Environmental Science is the easiest AP. Good luck with the rest of them.
EDIT: I'm currently in a STEM high school and have taken APES, AP Bio, AP World History, am currently taking AP Chem, AP US History, AP Language, and AP Calculus. I'm on track for a total of 11 by the time I graduate. You can handle one.
EDIT: I'm currently in a STEM high school and have taken APES, AP Bio, AP World History, am currently taking AP Chem, AP US History, AP Language, and AP Calculus. I'm on track for a total of 11 by the time I graduate. You can handle one.
Haha, tell her if she thinks that to go get her PhD, and until then to fucking teach, cause shes supposed to be teaching a bunch of HS kids.
Or ask her when you can come and see her after class to discuss issues, as Ive never had a prof where you couldnt talk to them during office hours.
All in all though, sounds like youre a bit of an overachiever... good luck. have fun.
Joe Shlabotnik
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Yeah there's always a teacher or two in high school who tries to bury his students in work to "prepare them for college" when he actually just has awful teaching methods.
Those professors do exist in college, too, but good ones will explain things clearly and make themselves available.
Those professors do exist in college, too, but good ones will explain things clearly and make themselves available.
EatinOlives
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Indeed. I guess their thought process is "if I bury my students with work, they'll be too busy to notice how terrible I am!"
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Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
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SugarDaddy
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My exact reaction, lol.
By elitist, do you mean smart?
But, hey, at least in college you can drop the classes you deem too hard and get your money back.
In HS, well, its high school...
Edit: The most elitist parts of this thread are his AP prof and his schools grading scale. Students cant fail classes, they "unsatisfactory" them. :lol
Wow. This is so true. I have had this dream a few times since leaving college. Although usually it involves suddenly having exams, and wondering what happened to the year and why I didn't attend any classes etc. etc.
She does have a PhD.
I'm taking 2, lrn2read.
And at my school you can only take a max of 3 per year.
Trying to. I got in to AP Psych but then they never but it on my schedule, and when I asked for it they said it was full.
I've had this exact dream at least a handful of times in the last year or so. It scares the hell out of me.
bggrthnjsus
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i definitely still have this dream on occasion. it's usually some sort of english class
Grinchy
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HOLY SHIT. So I'm not the only one. For me it's always a test, though. Not a project. I'll be sitting in a class and realize I haven't even been in it for the whole term but there's a test coming up.
When you are in your AP classes or whatever, and your teacher says "THIS is what it's like in college! I'm doing you all a favor by getting you ready for the hell you're going to experience in University" they're just talking out of their ass. There are some shit professors, but if you're in a good department and you're taking good professors because you research them before taking classes, then you'll never, ever have a teacher so inept that they would refuse to help you with the labs...
Anyway, chin up dude, if you are in honors and AP courses, you'll find that the first semester or two of college will actually be a lighter workload for you probably (a number of variables here though, but it was the case for me and some people I know)
Edit: I hate having those kinds of dreams in the comic... so scary. Just had one like two weeks ago and I was wigging out in my dream. Felt so good to wake up.
Anyway, chin up dude, if you are in honors and AP courses, you'll find that the first semester or two of college will actually be a lighter workload for you probably (a number of variables here though, but it was the case for me and some people I know)
Edit: I hate having those kinds of dreams in the comic... so scary. Just had one like two weeks ago and I was wigging out in my dream. Felt so good to wake up.
Whiskeymatt
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This is such bullshit and high school teachers need to stop telling their students it. Any good college professor, especially in a chemistry-based lab, is going to tell the students what to do--or at the very least guide them along helpfully--if they ask for assistance.
Also, like others said, just have fun because high school is the last time in your life for a long, long time that you won't be burdened down with responsibilities.
Take it in stride, dude. You're obviously not a bad student, your grades are up judging from your OP. There are always going to be stressful parts of the school year. I did IB, and my junior/senior years of high school I had four IB tests, which consist of (usually) three different 'papers'. The papers are all a part of your combined grade so I essentially took twelve different exams at the end of those years. Along with various "internal assessments" and a bigger paper called an extended essay.
My first advice would be if you get a bad grade in the class, but you ace the AP test, college admissions will know whats up. Your GPA may take a hit, but it can afford to especially if your other grades are high enough. Also many of my classes got easier in the second semester of high school so just work your way through this one and see if things improve after Christmas. If your GPA is taking too much of a hit, make sure you've got a good extracurricular or two, decent SAT scores, and some volunteering hours doesn't hurt either.
But today? Get the fuck off of neogaf. If you have two assignments and a lab do, don't just sit there and stare at them. You know this, man. Stuff won't get done unless you start doing it. Do the assignment first that weighs the most and impacts your grade the most. Then move on to the next one. If you don't finish one, it doesn't seem to me like its that big of a deal, because the rest of the class likely won't either right? Its easier to fail in company. My advice if you are to not get an assignment done is to brush it off, accept that whats done is done, and get on with your studies. Also your club should take a back burner role until you finish up all your other work.
But seriously, best advice in this thread would be to have some god damn fun in high school. I look back at HS now and just shake my head. The university I went to didn't even give me credit for all the classes/tests I took, I killed myself working (bullshitting mostly, actually) and I knew nobody outside of my IB class. It kind of sucked. We had a lot of fun, don't get me wrong, but I wouldn't consider it a normal HS life. So really, when you get done with the current work load, go out and have some fun. High school only comes around once.
Last piece, complaining just puts you in a negative state of mind and wastes your time. Yeah, this all sucks. Trust me, I know. A big part of getting motivated to work is mental, you have to psych yourself into it. So get working, buddy. And good luck.
My first advice would be if you get a bad grade in the class, but you ace the AP test, college admissions will know whats up. Your GPA may take a hit, but it can afford to especially if your other grades are high enough. Also many of my classes got easier in the second semester of high school so just work your way through this one and see if things improve after Christmas. If your GPA is taking too much of a hit, make sure you've got a good extracurricular or two, decent SAT scores, and some volunteering hours doesn't hurt either.
But today? Get the fuck off of neogaf. If you have two assignments and a lab do, don't just sit there and stare at them. You know this, man. Stuff won't get done unless you start doing it. Do the assignment first that weighs the most and impacts your grade the most. Then move on to the next one. If you don't finish one, it doesn't seem to me like its that big of a deal, because the rest of the class likely won't either right? Its easier to fail in company. My advice if you are to not get an assignment done is to brush it off, accept that whats done is done, and get on with your studies. Also your club should take a back burner role until you finish up all your other work.
But seriously, best advice in this thread would be to have some god damn fun in high school. I look back at HS now and just shake my head. The university I went to didn't even give me credit for all the classes/tests I took, I killed myself working (bullshitting mostly, actually) and I knew nobody outside of my IB class. It kind of sucked. We had a lot of fun, don't get me wrong, but I wouldn't consider it a normal HS life. So really, when you get done with the current work load, go out and have some fun. High school only comes around once.
Last piece, complaining just puts you in a negative state of mind and wastes your time. Yeah, this all sucks. Trust me, I know. A big part of getting motivated to work is mental, you have to psych yourself into it. So get working, buddy. And good luck.
Canis lupus
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I'm afraid to look at the college website and see what I have to study and wich assignments I have to make.
LightOfTruth
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Environmental Science? lol.
Dont take Orgo II.
Dont take Orgo II.
Grover Cleveland
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Eh, all that hype about AP classes being just like college classes is overblown. Other than potentially getting a college credit and a slightly greater workload, AP classes are just like any other high school class.
College classes are ten times worse.
College classes are ten times worse.
Yeah it's BS
Maybe I'm blinded by retrospect, but I think AP was way worse than college classes. I took 3 AP classes one semester (ended up fixing that later on, phew, long story). I'd have about 1-1.5 hours of homework in each of those classes....each DAY due the next day. I'd get home from school around 3 and do homework non-stop until it was time for dinner and bed, sometimes not even finishing. At least in college I get weekly assignments and can coordinate my schedule around them. High school AP was terrible (and dumb. I was better off taking dual-credit community college classes which were actually structured like college and counted anywhere regardless of some dumb test).
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That sounds really interesting.
Whiskeymatt
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I'm finding OChem II a lot easier to manage than OChem I, to be honest. It's still hell, though.
As far as labs go that was often the case. Sometimes you'd get some ambiguous direction and a TA that didn't know what the hell they were talking about, so you were left mostly to your own devices in that case. A lot of times you had to do a lot of pre-lab work and no one told you. Certainly you can get in touch with the prof during meeting hours, but you still have to take the initiative.
How advanced are AP classes anyways? We don't have them in Canada. Electricity and Magnetism is by far the hardest courses I took in University so if it was anything like that then I feel really sorry for you.
The problem with an insane workload like that is it doesn't help you. You don't learn anything and your just regurgitating information you've read just to finish the work. My college just chopped each class period down by 15 min without out cutting down the cirriculm. That's 48 hours less time during a semester to get shit done. A lot of my classmates are falling behind because of the speed and massive workload
krameriffic
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Actually, yes. If you're going to take these kinds of classes and go into these kinds of fields, this is how things are. I read a thread like this and I can't help but feel like there's a lot of exaggeration about the workload, the asshole-ishness of the teacher, incompetence of the TAs, or unfairness of class policies. I saw it constantly when I was in college. There were professors I didn't like, professors whose styles were not great, but never anything actively malicious or downright horrible, and certainly never anything that the students could not handle.
Call it elitism if you will, but it is what it is, and defensiveness changes nothing.
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Just fervently claim that it's all wrong and the the earth is 6 thousand years old because the bible says so. Then sue the school for discrimination when they fail you.
I read chapter 4, time to do the assignment.
Great idea.
Too bad she already knows I'm not christian.
Great idea.
Too bad she already knows I'm not christian.
Karsticles
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AP Environmental Sciences was the only AP class I didn't take in high school. Every one of my peers told me how lucky I was because the class had an absurd work load. Condolences to you, OP.
It depends on the professor. Bad professors certainly won't tell you what to do, and I think bad teachers use those bad professors as an excuse to continue being bad.
Out of curiosity OP, what are your plans post HS, are you already looking at schools?
I feel its silly to waste the time you could be having fun on school work (assuming you can do well enough).
I mean, you obviously dont like it now, but you could easily forgo it.
Once you get into higher education its not as easy to forgo.
I feel its silly to waste the time you could be having fun on school work (assuming you can do well enough).
I mean, you obviously dont like it now, but you could easily forgo it.
Once you get into higher education its not as easy to forgo.
LightOfTruth
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Orgo II starts off easier with the Diels-Alder reaction and such but when you start Carboxylic Acids......dude, there must've been like 40 reactions in just that one chapter.
Orgo I is definitely easier. The only hard stuff there was maybe epoxides and that's it. Alcohols are easy.
Yeah, something tells me you wouldnt regret not taking AP courses...
But assuming you like needless stress, by all means...
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I always love when the OP solves his own problem.
Admiral Bone to Pick
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For colleges, it's tough. You should absolutely apply to the best state schools in your state, but you might be miserable if you don't want a huge campus and 30,000+ students. As for your AP classes, at least the grading still makes sense. Wait until you have to write college papers.
nhlducks35
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From what I have heard about APES, is that it is not hard class, but you do a lot of memorization and work in the class. The AP test however shouldn't be that hard (I think, I never took it).
Grinchy
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I disagree. I think it's a "grass is greener" scenario. The people who try harder in high school and keep it up through college go on to make more money and have more material success but always wonder if they should have had more fun.
The people who didn't care in high school and either didn't attend or dropped out of college remember the good times they had but they eat grilled cheese sandwiches every day while wondering what life would have been like if they had just put some effort into it.
AP classes are a horrible representation of what college work will be like. Way harder than actual college by far and the work is way constricted with less freedom of time.
That being said, they are worth the suffering in highschool, because you can basically either have a couple easy as fuck years of college, or get out early with enough AP credits that transfer over. My major forced me to stay for 4 years, but I was so ahead that my last 1 1/2 years was like no work at all.
That being said, they are worth the suffering in highschool, because you can basically either have a couple easy as fuck years of college, or get out early with enough AP credits that transfer over. My major forced me to stay for 4 years, but I was so ahead that my last 1 1/2 years was like no work at all.
mclaren777
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I don't think I've ever had a negative dream about college, even when I was a student.
Lamel
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Oh boy, OP, AP classes are supposed to be hard to prepare your for college...so once you take anything similar in college you will do awesome. I know you're in high school still, but you have plenty of time throughout the day to work on this stuff.
Many people take 5+ AP classes a year and do really well. I have taken AP exams without actually taking the AP class (wasn't offered in my school) and still got 4s and 5s all from self study. Don't underestimate yourself; work hard.
You can have fun and work hard too. I know, it is a foreign concept to most people...
Many people take 5+ AP classes a year and do really well. I have taken AP exams without actually taking the AP class (wasn't offered in my school) and still got 4s and 5s all from self study. Don't underestimate yourself; work hard.
You can have fun and work hard too. I know, it is a foreign concept to most people...
That shit is so true, it has happened to me many times. It sucks.
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