Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Why do they all insist (with the occasional exception like the Moto 360) on being fucking square?
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I'm starting to think Apple Watch is going to be really big
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Why do they all insist (with the occasional exception like the Moto 360) on being fucking square?
infiniteloop
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how would you properly view images on a round watch?
Because text and photos are made for it?
LyleLanley
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Square screens make more sense for pretty much everything except looking like a traditional watch. That and it's probably cheaper.
The problem is, literally its only tiny benefit is not having to pull your phone out of your pocket.
For most people, that's not enough reason to buy, maintain/charge, and carry two devices.
Other than that tiny benefit, it's completely redundant with the phone it's tethered to and does everything worse.
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An analogy is if (in a world where phones didn't exist) your 20/20 vision self starting wearing Google Glasses tethered to your watch so you wouldn't have to look down at your wrist to see the time. Nobody would do that.
For most people, that's not enough reason to buy, maintain/charge, and carry two devices.
Other than that tiny benefit, it's completely redundant with the phone it's tethered to and does everything worse.
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An analogy is if (in a world where phones didn't exist) your 20/20 vision self starting wearing Google Glasses tethered to your watch so you wouldn't have to look down at your wrist to see the time. Nobody would do that.
Why are you so focused on what it does worse and not what it does better?
elrechazado
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Apparently you missed the bold text
I can understand being apathetic toward the Apple watch if it doesn't interest you but I can never understand why people get so wound up (boom tish) about something they'll never buy and the people who don't want the product end up having more posts in the thread than people who do. Don't like the watch, don't buy the watch but anyone with an agenda to change peoples opinions about the watch is just BIZARRE.
But its not a tiny benefit? It does health features, tracking, notifications, glances, Apple Pay, You can unlock doors with it in the future, Homekit with it etc.
Its not even buzzes but rather taps, it feels like if someone taps you on the arm.
LyleLanley
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Walking directions that use buzzes to tell you to turn left or right without looking at anything seems like a legitimately useful feature.
Will I need one on each arm for this?
LyleLanley
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No, you can put both watches on one arm.
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I'm getting pretty excited about it, to be honest. I actually see quite a few smartwatches out in public while I'm working. I'd say maybe a couple a week.
I've had the philips hue lighting system for 2 years now and can't fucking wait to control it with the watch.
I've had the philips hue lighting system for 2 years now and can't fucking wait to control it with the watch.
Phew.
345triangle
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a $10,000 first-class flight lasts six hours and you're worried that $350+ is going to be too expensive for a product that people will use constantly for years?
yeah, i have my doubts.
the $350 price is the absolute baseline. a lot of people are going to pay a LOT more for this thing.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Seems to work fine on the Moto 360.
Isn't looking like a watch sort of important? I guess you can attempt to create a new style, but you are attempting to replace over 100 years worth of designs.
disappeared
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I just find it fascinating that so many people will be going back to looking at their wrists to know the time.
Although I suppose smartphones are actually more akin to pocket watches, which predated wristwatches by many decades.
Although I suppose smartphones are actually more akin to pocket watches, which predated wristwatches by many decades.
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Anecdotally speaking as well, Apple Pay is TAKING OFF. We have it my store (a local business) and customers get legitimately excited when they see we support. Like EXCITED. And these are middle aged people who still have the ios8 tip notifications on the lockscreens.
I'm pretty sure all the big swiss companies have done at least one square model each over the years.
Is it really that many people? I can imagine most Apple watch buyers are probably replacing/supplementing their existing watches.
Not from what I've seen or read, it cuts of quite a bit. Also you should know that square watches aren't anything new.
It's not considered a benefit if the phone it's tethered to does all of these things already.
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Yes it is. Thats the whole point of it. To get your phone out of your hands.
Why... wouldn't it? You have your phone with you.. Its not like you have ot pull out the phone to use it.
LyleLanley
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I'm just accustomed to the current method of reaching into one's pocket and pulling out their phone to know the time. Just a random thought though; doesn't hold much water.
I'd be curious to know what the split is for Apple watch buyers between those who are replacing/supplementing their watch and those who haven't worn a wristwatch since mobile phones came out.
Unknown Soldier
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I need to buy more Apple stock before the watch comes out
Uncle Rupee
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Eh, I don't like the idea of having to charge my watch every day, or even every 3 days. That shit is annoying. They need to develop better batteries.
The new Casio not the new Tag Heuer.
GuitarAtomik
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Real talk: Unless you're sleeping with it on or do a lot of traveling, it's really not a big deal.
SuperPac
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This. The level of salt the Apple Watch kicks up is amazing.
They just want to look back and be right if it does fail
You haven't been in Destiny threads, have you..
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
So is this the go-to line now whenever anyone has criticism towards something?
It's starting to get old.
jellies_two
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BS, they are consumed with hate, and desperately want to help it fail.
Somewhere in their life they lost perspective, or maybe never had any, and now spend years simmering about "evilcorp" with far more mental intensity than anything else in their life, ok, save perhaps that bitch ex gf who slept with Todd and broke their heart.
It is some weird inverted Retail Therapy, I think. Buying shit = makes you feel good. Hating shit that you don't buy = makes you feel good.
Slight difference. The people that hate Destiny bought and played it.
Legitimate criticism and hate boners are two entirely different things.
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Nah, not the go-to line. But theres no criticism happening in this thread, there is some speculation and a whole lot of pontification. Its a very complicated discussion and this device class is uncharted territory. It is completely bleeding edge. Sure, smartwatches have seen a slow introduction over the last 2 years but absolutely nothing on this scale. Its a form of computing that almost nobody has years of experience performing, and the few who do are doing so in a world that is not programmed for it yet.
It requires a lot of imagination to understand what a device of this nature can accomplish and how it can integrate into your life.
This isn't new technology.
Despite the fact that smartwatches have been on the market for a minute now, at its core smartwatch technology isn't new tech. It's old tech stripped of features and reformed to fit on your wrist. That it isn't actually new is at the core of most of the criticisms of smartwatches.
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Being possible has nothing to do with being real.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
No criticism? How it looks is legit criticism, although it's subjective.
Objectively?
How about this?
http://www.cultofmac.com/305778/everything-apple-watch-apps-cant/
We are now in year 3 of smart watch tech (longer, depending on perspective). How can, in 2015, an smartwatch launch without 3rd party support for:
Displaying custom watch faces
Rendering animations/playing video
Playing sounds
Using microphone for anything other than dictating text
Using the NFC
Accessing the heart rate monitor
Using the Taptic Engine for vibration feedback
Using the Force Touch to control interface
Support for Finger scrolling or the Digital Crown
There is simply no excuse, considering how late to market this product will be, to not have at least half of that stuff ready. How anemic is there sdk team? This is a multi-billion dollar company, and they can't have basic functionality ready 2 years late to market?
Nevermind you have to have an iphone to even use one... This to me looks like a beta test, rather then product launch.
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Oh we are going to find out how, in 2015, a smartwatch can launch without those things. Don't you worry.
"Yeah, but my phone does all these things, who cares?"
I do.
I like being able to check a notification or tell time without losing functional capacity. Because every time that happens, I lose the use of one of my hands.
I also like being able to do that at my workplace which has a "no cellphones at your desk" policy.
I also like the idea of not compulsively checking my phone; Notification Center would be literally strapped to my wrist, I'll KNOW if I got a message.
It's a device intended to make us two-handed people again with our necks upright instead of angled down towards our hands. And to some people, that matters.
The key is going to be figuring out how many people are like that.
2 things.
Most if not all of us haven't used it, yourself included, so your assertion that it does things worse is pretty meaningless.
And maybe it's because I haven't owned a watch in a while, but I wasn't aware that you carried them. I was pretty sure you wear them.
I do.
I like being able to check a notification or tell time without losing functional capacity. Because every time that happens, I lose the use of one of my hands.
I also like being able to do that at my workplace which has a "no cellphones at your desk" policy.
I also like the idea of not compulsively checking my phone; Notification Center would be literally strapped to my wrist, I'll KNOW if I got a message.
It's a device intended to make us two-handed people again with our necks upright instead of angled down towards our hands. And to some people, that matters.
The key is going to be figuring out how many people are like that.
2 things.
Most if not all of us haven't used it, yourself included, so your assertion that it does things worse is pretty meaningless.
And maybe it's because I haven't owned a watch in a while, but I wasn't aware that you carried them. I was pretty sure you wear them.
DataStream
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Before the iPhone plenty of people had smartphones that were somewhat tedious to use but provided functionality that made it worthwhile.
Most people I know who have smart watches have stopped using them. They never have any issues with the usability but instead find the functionality to not warrant the upkeep in terms of battery and comfort. I don't see anything from Apples device as of yet that makes me think that it's long term prospects are any better.
Most people I know who have smart watches have stopped using them. They never have any issues with the usability but instead find the functionality to not warrant the upkeep in terms of battery and comfort. I don't see anything from Apples device as of yet that makes me think that it's long term prospects are any better.
Earthanoid
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I think the problem you're having is that you're assuming that it's not useful for anyone because you don't think it'd be useful for you.
I use a Gear Live and LG G Watch, and while they're not always useful, not having to pull the phone out is a huge benefit sometimes. The best use case, which will be most widespread appeal, is for fitness uses. When I'm at the gym or going on a run, not having to pull my phone out is awesome. I can quickly change tracks and volume from my wrist, send quick texts by voice (which works pretty reliably), and check notifications as they happen. I also have a heart rate strap which I can check on my watch, and can use the timer built into the watch when doing anything that has intervals. None of this is anything you can do by pulling your phone out without interrupting your workout. For me, this alone makes having a smartwatch worthwhile. It's also useful if you're in a meeting or something where you can't take your phone out, as it lets you discretely check and dismiss messages.
That said, I have several watches and for the most part the two uses above are the main things I use it for, the third one being using checklists while I'm doing grocery shopping (hugely convenient to do it from the watch instead of taking the phone out). For a lot of people it may not be worthwhile to spend several hundred dollars on a watch that is only occasionally used.
I do think the Apple Watch will be big, although I don't expect it to do anything Android Wear doesn't.
As an affordable WIS(watch enthusiasts will know what that means) who buys watches in the $100 (seikos and bulovas) to $2000 (Hamilton,Tags etc...) price range, I use my watches for its primary function; to tell time. So much so that I obsess over how many seconds are lost or gained on my automatics. They never have to be charged, which is great too. The best part of it all its that I don't need an accessory for my accessory. The apple watch isn't for me. My life is simple enough, in that I don't need to be connected 24/7
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I have a growing watch collection too.
http://i.imgur.com/Q5FS5jM.jpg
This specific model of swatch has become a highly visible characteristic of my fashion in the last two years or so. I have no plans to stop wearing them when I get a smart watch. I picturing wearing a smart watch further up my arm, facing inwards. Easy to cover up with sleeves. Who knows. I am very curious to see how traditional watches coexist with a smart watch though.
http://i.imgur.com/Q5FS5jM.jpg
This specific model of swatch has become a highly visible characteristic of my fashion in the last two years or so. I have no plans to stop wearing them when I get a smart watch. I picturing wearing a smart watch further up my arm, facing inwards. Easy to cover up with sleeves. Who knows. I am very curious to see how traditional watches coexist with a smart watch though.
SirMossyBloke
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Hang on, hang on.
You're calling a Sony watch hidious and considering an Apple watch in the future....when it looks like THAT?
Jesus man.
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