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Thanks for the kind wishes and replies everyone.

I am 30 for the person who asked.

Sydney does seem to be expensive. Perth seems like a good choice as it is the closest to where I will be flying back to during holidays, but as someone else mentioned, it seems to be getting more and more expensive there.


As for work, I have heard Accountants are having a hard time nowadays, but luckily I've been doing internal audit for a couple of years now and I am qualified, and that seems to be doing fine.

Is Brisbane a good choice? As much as I would love to live in a big city, it seems Sydney and Melbourne are just too expensive. Consider I will taking my family with me, and still not sure if my SO will be looking for work, but from what I am reading seems like she must.

I love living in the UAE, it's just that in the end of the day I can never truly call it home due to the residency/ citizenship regulations here.

Edit: I've read up on Adelaide, seems nice but too quiet for my taste
 
SniperHunter said:
yea there was, let me find it for you since I have nothing better to do

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=487626&highlight=indian+food
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I need to learn to cook it, the only place in Sarasota I've found is pretty tame
 
jim-jam bongs said:
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I need to learn to cook it, the only place in Sarasota I've found is pretty tame
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yea it's pretty complicated to cook, especially if you are adding your own fresh spices. A little too much turmeric or gharm masala can ruin the recipe

start experimenting. I can make Indian style lamb chops, took me a while to learn
 
Brisbane is Perth on steroids. Of the many friends and acquaintances I have acquired of the years, I have found that people from Brisbane and Perth are the one and the same: laid back, very friendly, willing to do what they can for the person involved.

Perth is still growing. It's only a baby city at the moment but it's willing to become the next Brisbane of Australia. The only thing stopping it is the fact that Brisbane's living area is going to become a huge metropolis within 25-50 years that may rival some of the biggest cities in the world.


But ultimately you should do as much research as possible. Hit up the AusGAF thread in Gaming Community, find out what some of the lads who live in certain cities think and see what they say regarding cost of living depending on where they live.
 
twdnewh_k said:
Thanks for the kind wishes and replies everyone.

I am 30 for the person who asked.

Sydney does seem to be expensive. Perth seems like a good choice as it is the closest to where I will be flying back to during holidays, but as someone else mentioned, it seems to be getting more and more expensive there.


As for work, I have heard Accountants are having a hard time nowadays, but luckily I've been doing internal audit for a couple of years now and I am qualified, and that seems to be doing fine.

Is Brisbane a good choice? As much as I would love to live in a big city, it seems Sydney and Melbourne are just too expensive. Consider I will taking my family with me, and still not sure if my SO will be looking for work, but from what I am reading seems like she must.

I love living in the UAE, it's just that in the end of the day I can never truly call it home due to the residency/ citizenship regulations here.

Edit: I've read up on Adelaide, seems nice but too quiet for my taste
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Agree with Speed, Brisvegas could be a perfect fit. Most Australians live in cities by the coast so they've all got a good atmosphere and a lot to do.

Welcome to Australia, or as we say in Australia... Welcome to Australia!
 
twdnewh_k said:
Thanks for the kind wishes and replies everyone.

I am 30 for the person who asked.

Sydney does seem to be expensive. Perth seems like a good choice as it is the closest to where I will be flying back to during holidays, but as someone else mentioned, it seems to be getting more and more expensive there.


As for work, I have heard Accountants are having a hard time nowadays, but luckily I've been doing internal audit for a couple of years now and I am qualified, and that seems to be doing fine.

Is Brisbane a good choice? As much as I would love to live in a big city, it seems Sydney and Melbourne are just too expensive. Consider I will taking my family with me, and still not sure if my SO will be looking for work, but from what I am reading seems like she must.

I love living in the UAE, it's just that in the end of the day I can never truly call it home due to the residency/ citizenship regulations here.

Edit: I've read up on Adelaide, seems nice but too quiet for my taste
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Brisbane is nice. I'd say definitely consider it.

Perth is basically as quiet as adelaide is really, just way more expensive because of Western australia's large resource wealth ( i think its in line to overtake sydney quite soon). It's also really spread out (it feels like one giant town basically + a CBD block added) and a long long way away from any other city so if you want to go to melb or sydney regularly its pretty much not viable.
 
Perth is not the best for young people as it is, there's not as much to do as compared to somewhere like Sydney or Melbourne and it's definitely no where near as alive. If you haven't grown up there (like me) then you probably would find it rather boring.

I guess it depends on your personality type.

I generally prefer places with more alive nightlife and a feeling of never sleeping - I get that most from Melbourne but that is mainly due to it being so densely packed.
 
Brisbane! BrisVegas! The River City! It's got everything - from big city feel to big suburban sprawl to outback country pockets, with accommodation to suit all types and a comfortable proximity to very touristy locations (Gold Coast, Australia Zoo, and the doorway to the tropical north coast/Great Barrier Reef). And it's 15 years or so away from being an Olympic host city, which could be fun?

Furthermore, these days it's culturally progressive, modern and diverse, with a compounding array of major international but also small indie festivals, exhibits, sporting events and shows, and a bustling nightlife. It's overflowing with parks, mountains, megamalls, schools and universities, and a beautiful wild flora and fauna. Top that with all of Australia's other renowned perks (healthcare, equal rights, work protections, amazing weather).

Downsides (although most of these apply to all of Australian cities):

- peak hour traffic along the main arterial roads
- video game prices
- like almost everywhere in the world, there are racist inbred hicks or "bogans" in certain far-out suburbs (specifically Beenleigh, Ipswich, Caboolture) of which you should be mindful, so maybe avoid living there, but generally the people stick up for the underdog
- specific to Brisbane is a public transport system that is relatively more expensive than other cities, and long trips especially from one side of the city to the other on bus can sometimes be a nightmare (but this is mainly due to how spread out the suburbs are)

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Nemesis_ said:
Perth is not the best for young people as it is, there's not as much to do as compared to somewhere like Sydney or Melbourne and it's definitely no where near as alive. If you haven't grown up there (like me) then you probably would find it rather boring.

I guess it depends on your personality type.
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Thanks.
It's kind of tough to explain what kind of place I like. I prefer a quiet place which has a busy, active downtown area. So in unlike Sydney and the big cities, only a certain smaller part of town is always busy and happening.
 
as an adelaide man, i would think here would suit you if you are looking to raise a family OP. only politics makes SA shit but nonetheless a cool place to stay.
 
G'day OP, come on over mate, plenty of room, don't mind the dickheads every country has them, plenty of proof of that in this thread already.
 
Welcome to Australia.

Glad to have you.

If you'd like to speak to someone who has studied migration law regarding to legal side of immigration with regard to visas and the like feel free to drop me a PM and I'll see if I can help you out with some links and information.
 
I'm assuming you speak Arabic OP - job wise that may help you in Sydney or Melbourne, where there are large Arabic communities, especially Lebanese. There are also reasonable Sudanese communities in Sydney at least, so that may also be of benefit in getting a job. I think most of the Sudanese arrived here on refugee status but I'm not too certain.

Melbourne and Sydney would be the most culturally diverse areas, but they are expensive. I live 50km outside of Sydney, commute an hour to work every day and I paid $320,000 for nice, but small 3 bedroom house in a not-bad suburb. The closer to the city you go, the more prices go up. Rent is quite high and there aren't many vacancies in Sydney. I'm assuming a similar story in Melbourne.

Climate wise the west coast of Australia; Perth and northwards, may be closer to the UAE if you don't like humidity. There is also a mining boom happening there at the moment, so a lot of growth and the possible requirement for accounts. The boom is mainly set on the Chinese economy though and the boom is set to peak soon, but good luck predicting China's fortunes.

Queensland is going quite well at the moment - Brisbane, Gold Coast. I like Far North Queensland - Townsville, Cairns, etc, but you can't swim in the water in the humid wet season because of jellyfish, which is a bummer. Beautiful beaches - die if you swim.

Polari said:
Shit my cover's blown. Time to bail out. I lived in Australia as a child (Melbourne) and loved it, for what it's worth. I'm sure it will be a good move for you OP, despite my enjoyment of GAF's obsession with Australian racism. You guys are still fucked up about Aborigines though, I stand by that.
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I know Maori enjoy a better lot than indigenous Australian's, but I heard more "casual" racism when I was in Auckland about Maori than I hear in Sydney. I know it's different in other parts of Australia, and probably NZ, but don't try and pretend it doesn't exist in NZ.
 
dejay said:
I know Maori enjoy a better lot than indigenous Australian's, but I heard more "casual" racism when I was in Auckland about Maori than I hear in Sydney. I know it's different in other parts of Australia, and probably NZ, but don't try and pretend it doesn't exist in NZ.
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Oh I'm not. But that "casual" racism toward Maori (while obviously anecdotal) is probably down to the fact Maori make up 14% of the population as opposed to Aborigines at 2.5%, and also because Maori are more integrated with the rest of New Zealand society (both geographically and socially), whereas years of institutionalised racism means Aborigines continue to live very much on the fringes of Australian society.
 
I think something everyone should note if they plan to go anywhere in australia that isn't melbourne or sydney. Everything is closed by about 8-9pm but in turn the lifestyle is extremely laidback.
 
I know there's a few Sudanese immigrants in my area (Springwood QLD), but I'm not a fan of immigrants who isolate themselves in particular communities. They end up becoming alienated because they tend to stick to their own kind. I'd much rather immigrants integrate into the population. I think that is the cause of some of the racial issues in Australia (see Lakemba in Sydney)

Also I might need a business accounting soon :)
 
 
I Immigrated here in 2008 from Canada. 1st note, This place is expensive. Sure rent prices could be cheaper, but the general cost of living and daily necessities are pretty damn high. 2nd note, Unless you're coming into a dual income or 80k/y Paycheck, don't bother thinking about the eastern suburbs of sydney. Melbourne is a lot cheaper and nicer imo, and I live in Sydney. Good on you for getting accepted, heard it's getting harder to get in and cost us a shitload coming on a business visa.
 
Polari said:
Oh I'm not. But that "casual" racism toward Maori (while obviously anecdotal) is probably down to the fact Maori make up 14% of the population as opposed to Aborigines at 2.5%, and also because Maori are more integrated with the rest of New Zealand society (both geographically and socially), whereas years of institutionalised racism means Aborigines continue to live very much on the fringes of Australian society.
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Yeah, I hear ya with the numbers - large cultural groups create more racial tension, and a lot of that leaks over into racism. It's why I said it differs in different parts of Australia - Far North Qld and WA would be a different story.

I think the integration is the main difference - there's still a large disconnect between the original inhabitants and the invaders in Australia. Even with the best of intentions a lot of policies go wrong because they're misguided.

Unfortunately, and I don't know if it's due to numbers or culture, but indigenous Australian's haven't been as successful at getting representation. Like you say, 2.5% isn't a lot. There's a lot more Maori culture in general NZ culture compared to Australia. Perhaps the culture just had the fortune of being more attractive to European settlers? I don't know. We actually seemed to embrace some parts of indigenous culture more in the '80s than we do now.
 
I'm from Perth which is a really cool city that is slowly getting rid of its conservative nature to change. it's changing every day but the cost of living (well, food in particular) is outrageously expensive. it's a great place to bring up kids, though,IMO. If you can get past that!

Been in Brisbane coming on 2 years now- not so expensive :p Nice place.
 
Ollie Pooch said:
I'm from Perth which is a really cool city that is slowly getting rid of its conservative nature to change. it's changing every day but the cost of living (well, food in particular) is outrageously expensive. it's a great place to bring up kids, though,IMO. If you can get past that!

Been in Brisbane coming on 2 years now- not so expensive :p Nice place.
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I work in warehousing/transport - getting anything to Perth is expensive as hell, so I'm not surprised. Darwin is just as bad.
 
Sydney and Melbourne are expensive as fuck.

Maybe look to live outside a capital city! It doesn't take long to get into a city anyway here, less than an hour from Geelong to Melbourne and everything is way way way cheaper and laid back.

You should be good for job prospects, internal auditors do well from what my mates say and in any case all my friends who graduated as accountants found jobs pretty easily, even if they did have to move outside of the capitals.
 
Whichever city you go to, just make sure to research the suburbs first so you don't end up living in some shithole area full of housing commission houses. Beware of the really cheap areas.
 
Lucian Cat said:
Where abouts are you thinking of moving in Australia? I'm in south Australia and it's beautiful and quiet there. Check out the ausgaf thread in gaming for more of us to ask questions about anything you need :)

The critters aren't too bad here
just watch out for our drop bears

Edit: also it's the middle of the night here so they may not be very responsive for another 6 hours or so
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Tell that to my son who had a spider crawl over him last night while we were watching tv. I'm also in SA. Hi there.
 
Brisbane gets alot of crap (mostly from people who've never actually visited) but having lived in all the major East Coast cities, it's actually a pretty sweet place. Very relaxed, with some awesome live bands (big punk/rock scene if that's your thing).

Haven't been to Perth, but I have heard it's similar and WA in general is meant to be really beautiful.

I'm in Sydney currently, (originally from Melbourne) and despite the constant rivalries between cities here, after traveling domestically and internationally, I've learned that Australian cities aren't really that inherently different, so where ever you choose, you'll have a blast since the country as a whole is so awesome :)
 
Polari said:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=384098
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=532911
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=488981
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=489006
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=405505
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=503800
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=376505
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=75555
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Ignoring the stupidity of this post i just have to wonder did you have all those bookmarked just in case for a thread like this? Or did you just go searching to find them just to post a list like that with no comment whatsoever?

Edit: Judging by the fact that this was a hit and run post i'm assuming it was just a bad troll.
 
T-0800 said:
Tell that to my son who had a spider crawl over him last night while we were watching tv. I'm also in SA. Hi there.
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Haha aww poor thing.

And ITT we discover a bajillion South Australians. What part are you in? Barossa here
 
It's hard to get a rental in Perth and the prices for everything is pretty high as everyone is trying to profit off all the mining money. I like living here but I imagine it would be hard to get started coming in fresh.
 
 
twdnewh_k said:
Thanks for the kind wishes and replies everyone.

I am 30 for the person who asked.

Sydney does seem to be expensive. Perth seems like a good choice as it is the closest to where I will be flying back to during holidays, but as someone else mentioned, it seems to be getting more and more expensive there.


As for work, I have heard Accountants are having a hard time nowadays, but luckily I've been doing internal audit for a couple of years now and I am qualified, and that seems to be doing fine.

Is Brisbane a good choice? As much as I would love to live in a big city, it seems Sydney and Melbourne are just too expensive. Consider I will taking my family with me, and still not sure if my SO will be looking for work, but from what I am reading seems like she must.

I love living in the UAE, it's just that in the end of the day I can never truly call it home due to the residency/ citizenship regulations here.

Edit: I've read up on Adelaide, seems nice but too quiet for my taste
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If you do decide to move to Brisbane, PM me with some details. My brother is a partner in a medium sized accounting firm, and while I can't promise anything, I am more than happy to pass your CV on to him.

The firm is very multicultural and seems like a pretty decent place to work.
 
Feep said:
So, on average, you are attacked by a shark, spider, or snake once every one hundred seconds?

Fuck Australia
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The amount of times I've found a shark in my bed. Just harden the fuck up and squash it - the cockroaches are bigger.
 
Feep said:
So, on average, you are attacked by a shark, spider, or snake once every one hundred seconds?

Fuck Australia
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Sometimes you go for five minutes without being attacked by anything, then *BAM*, you're attacked by all three at once.
 
Polari said:
Salty Australians, lol. Anyway, it's the Aboriginals that Australian society really shits on, and if you wanna dispute that look to the UN report in one of the threads I linked. You'll be fine in the cities OP.
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Its easy to say as an onlooker but there is no easy solution to the problems British settlers caused.

soxinthebox said:
It's hard to get a rental in Perth and the prices for everything is pretty high as everyone is trying to profit off all the mining money. I like living here but I imagine it would be hard to get started coming in fresh.
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Oh yeah, forgot about that. I had an awful time finding a place in Perth. Its also really really boring there :p Brisbane, Melbourne or Sydney are the way to go.
 
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