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In Defence of Ivanka Trump...

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One other thing to note: Ivanka is the only one of the kids that I'm aware of to be directly credited for policy her father ran on. She actively attached herself to his maternal leave policy, lied about Clinton not having one, and stormed out of her Cosmo interview in a huff when they treated her like a member of his political team and not the amazing every woman princess she brands herself as. Her dad's campaign wasn't a thing that happened to her like Tiffany or Melania (who, to be clear, still have to own their part of supporting Trump) it was a thing she bought into and wanted to tie her image into the "good" parts of.

I get that she's very good at seeming like the sane one, but the idea that she has the most capacity for realizing how wrong this is and doesn't care makes her the worst one IMO. She is humanizing some of his crap, and that is unacceptable.

Well said.

With how some people viewed her, she played her cards correctly.
 
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Can we not devolve this into sexist bullshit?
 
She's not an elected official, she should not be sitting in on meetings.

She's also supposedly managing Trump's businesses during his presidency. She can't be around for government business and not have it smell of corruption (even more than it already does with the president having a private business empire and having it managed by his family rather than liquidating it into a blind trust)
 
She has access to power. She should be held accountable for her actions and policies, just like every other person who has access to power. The fact that she is unelected means she should be more scrutinized, not less.
 
Yeah, she's a grown-ass 35-year-old woman and not 15; that's entirely the issue.

She fully supported her father's campaign and rhetoric, or at the very least, never spoke up about it. She's also taking full advantage of her father's position in the White House. She shows up at official meetings with foreign leaders, despite having still not fully divested from her businesses. She's an opportunist through-and-through.

If she wanted sympathy as the liberal worldly woman, she would distanced herself from her father a long long time ago.
 
Lol what is this shit? Gonna need it see receipts for this claim, and your gut feeling based on lewd remarks does not count.
So like think of every interaction Trump has had with his daughter.

Think of Trump's opinions on women.

Think of the amount of self control Trump has.

He's for sure molested her at the very least.
 
So like think of every interaction Trump has had with his daughter.

Think of Trump's opinions on women.

Think of the amount of self control Trump has.

He's for sure molested her at the very least.
Do you work in law enforcement? You seem like you'd be a good fit
 
Eh, she knew what she was getting into. She was very active in campaigning for him and still is involved politically. It's good this has taken a hit on her brand.
 
Much like people who fall for Trump's "I'm a self-made blue collar billionaire just out for the little guy" marketing brand, you fell for her "I'm the good one" marketing brand.
 
The entire point of Ivanka having an active role in his father's campaign and administration is an attempt to normalize Trump's hateful racist and bigoted agenda. She actively participates in that.

I don't need to defend that. OP, why do you?
 
OP falling for her bullshit. Pretty white girls get away with everything.

Yep, it's pathetic how much shit gets handwaved away because of sexist thinking like this. Fuck Ivanka. She is as much a part of the white supremacist Trump regime as Bannon and every other deplorable. She had a chance to do the right thing and speak out against her fascist father during the primary, but instead she chose to side with evil. Fuck her. I hope every business associated with her name withers and fails.
 
So like think of every interaction Trump has had with his daughter.

Think of Trump's opinions on women.

Think of the amount of self control Trump has.

He's for sure molested her at the very least.

Yeah, that is not what I'd call proof. Tales from your ass on the other hand...
 
Lol what is this shit? Gonna need it see receipts for this claim, and your gut feeling based on lewd remarks does not count.

Dude, really? The lewd remarks he made about IVANKA herself "don't count"? Get the fuck outta here.

“Don’t you think my daughter’s hot? She’s hot, right?”

In the almost 20 years since, Mr Trump has called his eldest daughter “voluptuous”. He’s said it’s OK to describe her as “a piece of ass”, though she is a senior executive in his business empire. And he’s said that, if she wasn’t his daughter, “perhaps [he’d] be dating her”.

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Guilty of what exactly? And are the millions of Trump voters guilty as well for whatever crime you are referring to?

Guilty of being a significant part of Trump's campaign and administration. She doesn't get a pass for the terrible things she's helped to enable because she's so good looking that even her dad wants to fuck her.
 
I mean I'm not calling for him to be arrested for it.

But it happened.

Also, it's not ridiculous at all, or even a leap. It's a natural step.

I mean look at that fucking gif. There is no reason at all that he should move his hand down to her hip ass area.

None at all except to cop a feel.

And if you watch the vid of Tiff's reaction to him you can see that she is well used to him touching/kissing her in a way that she doesn't like so she has to physically distance herself from him.

Of course, no one here can state with any certainty either way, but there is a reason its on peoples radar, and its not just because shes attractive.

Edit - To all you gaffers saying this is too far, liberals are crazy too, etc...

Imagine having a beer with one of your buddies and he says the same shit I quoted about his own daughter. You wouldn't question that at all??? Super normal, right?
 
Making jokes about how dreamy Trudeau is - is legitimate imo.
Oh I agree, the man is a dreamboat.

But between "lol Ivanka wants Trudeau" and "Ivanka was totally molested" I feel like it goes down a road that is entirely unnecessary for this conversation.
 
She has access to top secret information not only in the US but any other nations working with the US, she's unelected and underqualified and has no place or any right to be part of top secret negotiations. It's bullshit nepostism, she is an opportunist who can use that info for her business needs.
 
Oh I agree, the man is a dreamboat.

But between "lol Ivanka wants Trudeau" and "Ivanka was totally molested" I feel like it goes down a road that is entirely unnecessary for this conversation.
I mean the fact that she was totally molested is really the only reason you should feel bad for her, which is what the thread is about. Otherwise she's not a good person.

Same goes for the rest of the Trump kids, like how Don slapped around Jr in front of his classmates at Penn.
 
Ok,
I can't stand Trump, I think my post history confirms it, but I think his daughter is getting a real raw deal.

She's about as liberal as it gets when it comes to the Trump family. It's as if every action she makes is blown up as a "priviledge".

Her sitting at the Resolute Desk with Trudeau and her dad is an issue? How so? She's still the daughter of a president who can sit anywhere in the oval office if she likes. Because she's 35 and not 15 makes it not ok?

People need to take it down a notch and focus on the real issue here - her dad literally acting like an Emperor.

P.S. It's perfectly O.K to swoon at Trudeau. My wife does it too.
People were slamming her in another thread because she was planning to introduce maternity leave for the United States.
 
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