PdotMichael
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That doesn't even make sense if a 3DS would be the only way for children to access internet.
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In Japan, New 3DS 'Filters' The Internet, Unless You Pay $0.30 Extra
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plasmawave
Banned
Kids can use their phones or PCs to view those harmful websites.
deltatheta
Member
They already have parental controls, but during a PR disaster the media tends to not place the blame on the parents who failed to turn on the parental controls (if they even mention the parental controls at all).
The way to avoid that is to make parental controls default to being turned on so that they are opt-out. In order for that to work, you need to have a mechanism to prove that an adult is doing the opt-out.
It'd be interesting to hear ideas for what alternative such mechanisms there would be. The only practical one I can think of is a credit card charge.
30 cents or not, whether I browse the internet on a handheld or not, I would never buy a product that does this. Any Nintendo product that pulls this bullshit in the US is a guaranteed way to make sure I don't buy one. Granted, I'm still holding out on an actual account system ,so I'm really not confident in Nintendo doing anything that makes logical sense regarding the internet and their products. If you make me pay to prevent you from censoring what I can access, you can go fuck yourself.
RiccochetJ
Gold Member
I have no problem with this. Apparently some parents need a little nudge to take a look at the parental controls that are available on these systems.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Yeah. Parent makes a password....child has to know the password to access such sites.....pretty simple no?
Yeah, poor Nintendo will go bankrupt because of $15 million spread over 3 years.
Nintendo handheld sales in these 3 years: $10 billion.
I agree with their block first, ask later policy, but they're just being cheapskates for not refunding people.
That's their problem then. Others shouldn't pay because those don't and won't.
At the very least, if they want to verify age via credit card to unlock, do a $1 authorization charge/refund for those unlocking it and they eat the processing fees. If they want to protect themselves from angry negligent parents, it's their responsibility to pay for that luxury, not the adult users without kids (or even those with).
I'm sure you've made your choice, but I think Nintendo does not think about people like you when they made this decision, rather how they are going to solve the problem of children circumventing parental locks.
I know they don't, but I do hope enough people disagree with it to make it hurt them financially. Highly unlikely, but I could dream. Any time your solution to a problem is to inconvenience and charge the people who aren't affected by or causing the problem, you've made a bad choice. This is the sort of decision that would cause me to never do business with a company again. It's straight up early 90s Nintendo "We're going to babysit our customers" strategy, and will only serve to continue to make Nintendo irrelevant to anybody over the age of 10.
Pinko Marx
Banned
Yeah, so? I don't care what parents will or will not do. I'm not a parent.
test_account
XP-39C²
So Nintendo is looking into ways to capitalize from porn eh?
Seriously though,i see the reasoning behind this, but at the same time this is something that parental control can have fixed. Maybe Nintendo know that there are a lot of ignorant parents or parents that dont care that much about what their kids are exposed to.
Seriously though,i see the reasoning behind this, but at the same time this is something that parental control can have fixed. Maybe Nintendo know that there are a lot of ignorant parents or parents that dont care that much about what their kids are exposed to.
Yes, the SwapNote incident showed that every parent takes care of the kid's 3DS.
a kid would be able to buy a prepaid eshop card I would think thus making it not a good option
A parental lock requires activation. It only works if the parent is savvy enough to enable it, which doesn't cover the idiot mouthbreathers who would complain about their kids "finding porn in the 3DS" in the first place.
A filter you have to pay a cursory fee to remove means that someone actively disabled the filter, so if anyone complains all Nintendo has to say is: "Someone disabled the filter and gave themselves unlimited access to the internet, which does have porn."
I'm just wondering how effective the filter will be.
I see what Nintendo is trying to do. Most parents don't care about parental settings, as evident of Call of Duty and many M-rated games filled with children playing online. With the credit card requirement and fee of $.30 most parents should be more inquisitive of what their kid is buying or unlocking. So in a sense Nintendo is forcing parents to check and see if the content filter should be lifted. It still sucks for the many people who are 18+ (Myself included) but I'll live with it. I feel that the swapnote debacle and random articles about finding porn on 3DSes really influenced Nintendo's decision on this.
Also, do we know if this filter will be implemented in other regions? It may just be a regional thing.
Also, do we know if this filter will be implemented in other regions? It may just be a regional thing.
Yeah, I kind of suspect that may be the case because that's where the blow ups happen, though even there mobile devices are very, very prevalent so unless you have to do it for those too that seems kind of crazy to think the 3DS needs to be a special exception, and if that's the case then it's clearly a legal thing.
Waylon Drums
Member
Why can't we let parent do their jobs? Why does someone else's life choice have to affect everyone else?
Same reason parents don't pay attention to what their kids are looking at/viewing. Same reason parents show ID at the game store counter to purchase a game with a M rated icon on the front and hand it to their freaking 7 year old then get surprised when it has violence in it.
Because people are stupid and you have to put 50 hoops of fire between them and 'bad things' or else they will ALWAYS find a way.... always.
What I mean is you still have to use a credit card but it puts the 30 cents you paid into your eshop wallet balance so you can put it towards the cost of what ever else you buy there later.
ah fair enough
Kagoshima_Luke
Gold Member
Because parents aren't doing their jobs. At least, not in the US.
You can pay this even if you don't have a credit card - you can pay with a Suica, which is a subway pass, and literally everyone has that.
FleetingFlowAir
Member
Doesn't sound like a bad idea to me. $.30 can be paid off and I don't even use the Internet Browser.
So their foolproof plan to prevent kids from being able to circumvent a parental lock is ...allowing them to use a reloadable card that can be purchased out of vending machines?
I'm convinced. This is actually an incredibly well thought out plan that will work and is not just complete bullshit that will serve to only aggravate customers.
Pretty sure the Wii U has a similar "fee" for verifying age with a credit card, it's just linked to a NNID instead of the internet.
The way it's framed about just being an internet filter you have to pay to remove and the negative response in this thread is pretty obnoxious for such a piece of non-news.
The way it's framed about just being an internet filter you have to pay to remove and the negative response in this thread is pretty obnoxious for such a piece of non-news.
I doubt many parents even know that a 3DS has a web browser. These machines are still "gameboys" to a large number of parents, so they probably only worry about their child playing M rated games. The small charge is just a way to make parent's lives a little easier, and I doubt it was done as a way to just make a few dollars.
Gillian Seed
Banned
Lol
Lmao at people shitting on the idea. You would be surprised by the amount of stupid parents not doing their parenting properly. Nintendo is trying to avoid the blame when children use their 3DS to view mature content.
you have to know parental locks don't always work, that's the reason why people are watching porn with 3DS as stated in the latest research.
Don't blame Nintedno, blame the stupid parents! Necessary evil I'd say.
It's not about if it is the only way for children to access internet, it's about not being blamed for stupid parents not doing their jobs lol
you have to know parental locks don't always work, that's the reason why people are watching porn with 3DS as stated in the latest research.
Don't blame Nintedno, blame the stupid parents! Necessary evil I'd say.
It's not about if it is the only way for children to access internet, it's about not being blamed for stupid parents not doing their jobs lol
And you know how many of those aren't adults... how?
SatoAilDarko
Member
The Wii U fee only happens when parents set up a child account on the console and then they try to access the Eshop.
You have to be stupid and/or desperate to watch porn on the shitty 3DS screen, as if censored porn isn't terrible already lol
It's just a reasonable guess that some of those people are underage.
Especially in America, stupid lawsuits everywhere in America.
People will blame their stupidity on anyone lol
Only in Japan, though. For the rest of the world, the only options afaik are credit cards or eShop cards. But I imagine it won't work with eShop cards since any kid can just buy one.
Credit cards are very uncommon in Japan. This is probably just them passing along the transaction fees.
antennaehead
Member
I would gladly pay $0.30 for Swapnote return.
Well, not really. Those stories were about used 3DS consoles. Same thing could happen here if someone had paid the fee to remove their filter, looked at some porn, and then sold the console used.
Japanmanx3
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Neuromancer
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Nintendo Porn Tax