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In Sweden, an Experiment Turns Shorter Workdays Into Bigger Gains

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Dalek

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In Sweden, an Experiment Turns Shorter Workdays Into Bigger Gains


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GOTHENBURG, Sweden — Arturo Perez used to come home frazzled from his job as a caregiver at the Svartedalens nursing home. Eight-hour stretches of tending to residents with senility or Alzheimer’s would leave him sapped with little time to spend with his three children.

But life changed when Svartedalens was selected for a Swedish experiment about the future of work. In a bid to improve well-being, employees were switched to a six-hour workday last year with no pay cut. Within a week, Mr. Perez was brimming with energy, and residents said the standard of care was higher.

“What’s good is that we’re happy,” said Mr. Perez, a single father. “And a happy worker is a better worker.”

Sweden has long been a laboratory for initiatives to strike a better work-life balance, part of a collective ideal that treating workers well is good for the bottom line. Many Swedish offices use a system of flexible work hours and parental leave and child-care policies are among the world’s most generous.

The experiment at Svartedalens goes further by mandating a 30-hour week. An audit published in mid-April concluded that the program in its first year had sharply reduced absenteeism, and improved productivity and worker health.

“We’ve had 40 years of a 40-hour workweek, and now we’re looking at a society with higher sick leaves and early retirement,” said Daniel Bernmar, leader of the Left party on Gothenburg’s City Council, which is running the trial and hopes to make it the standard. “We want a new discussion in Sweden about how work life should be to maintain a good welfare state for the next 40 years.”

But a backlash has formed in some corners of this bustling city, with opponents warning that the idea is a utopian folly. If Gothenburg, let alone Sweden, were to adopt a six-hour workday, they say, the economy would suffer from reduced competitiveness and strained finances.

“It’s the type of economic thinking that has gotten other countries in Europe into trouble,” said Maria Rydén, Gothenburg’s deputy mayor and a member of the opposition Moderates party. She is leading a campaign to kill the trial, citing high taxpayer costs and arguments the government should not intrude in the workplace.

“We can’t pay people to not work,” she added.

A similar model has long ignited controversy in France, ever since a Socialist government made a 35-hour workweek mandatory in 2000. Companies complain it has reduced competitiveness and created billions in additional costs for hiring and social charges. Unions defend the law as shielding workers from employers who might otherwise return to excessively long work hours.

The measure is now riddled with so many loopholes that most employees currently work around 40 hours a week, on par with the European Union average. But President François Hollande is facing nationwide strikes as he seeks to further ease parts of the law.

Such concerns have not deterred a growing number of small businesses in Sweden from testing the concept. Many found that a shorter workday can reduce turnover, enhance employee creativity and lift productivity enough to offset the cost of hiring additional staff.

“We thought doing a shorter workweek would mean we’d have to hire more, but it hasn’t resulted in that because everyone works more efficiently,” said Maria Brath, who founded an Internet search optimization start-up in Stockholm three years ago based on a six-hour day. The company, which has 20 employees, has doubled its revenue and profit each year.

“Since we work fewer hours, we are constantly figuring out ways to do more with our time,” Ms. Brath said.

Sitting inside their airy office, Brath’s employees checked off the ways. “We don’t send unnecessary emails or tie ourselves up in meetings,” said Thommy Ottinger, a pay-per-click specialist. “If you have only six hours to work, you don’t waste your time or other people’s time.”

I wish we could try this out in America-I've thought this for a long time. There seems like so much wasted time at work just to fill the "8 hour shift"...
 

Trojita

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Many studies have shown that the 6 hour work day is optimal. Actually most work drops in efficiency drastically starting with hour 5 and then go lower and lower. The last 3 hours of the average work day barely have any output.
 

Ogodei

Member
Tend to agree. I worked a 5-hour schedule last summer and that seemed perfect to me. Enough work that my day felt full but enough leisure that I could tend things on the homefront well too.

Hopefully this becomes a norm in America sometime in my working life (i'll hit retirement age in the 2050s)
 

SJRB

Gold Member
This sounds very okay in concept, but I work for money and not for fun.

So unless "society" drastically raise wages I don't see this getting much traction anywhere.

Many studies have shown that the 6 hour work day is optimal. Actually most work drops in efficiency drastically starting with hour 5 and then go lower and lower. The last 3 hours of the average work day barely have any output.

I can absolutely relate to that. My job requires a lot of focus and concentration, and I can guarantee that I'm pretty much burnt up at around 3pm.

Me and my colleages already dubbed 3pm the dead zone, because everyone just kind of tanks around that time. It's really interesting to see and something companies like mine should do way, way more research on. The "8 to 5" mentality is so nineties and holds little merit considering workload and pressure has increased dramatically since that era. You cannot expect employees to endlessly give more and more.
 

nubbe

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Tend to agree. I worked a 5-hour schedule last summer and that seemed perfect to me. Enough work that my day felt full but enough leisure that I could tend things on the homefront well too.

Hopefully this becomes a norm in America sometime in my working life (i'll hit retirement age in the 2050s)

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Huh, who woulda thunk?

I was working 6 hours a day for a couple of months when i started my current job (supposed to be part tine), now i work 9 hours a day, excluding lunch (fridays off).

6 hour day, generally in a good mood. Gettin shit done.

Now, after like 2 pm, i start to hate people. And i have like 30-40 % downtime.

Pay me the same, i´ll do the same work and don´t let me waste my life away, corporate commander.
 
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Not a huge surprise there but good luck convincing governments and employers. My country is currently going in reverse on this issue, all the while pretending they're going to make things better by providing "workable work".
 

darthbob

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Working a 9 hour shift at an IT job, I'd loooooove a 6 hour work day. The last 2-3 hours are hell, especially when everyone decides they need to call right when I'm about to leave. :/
 

JCX

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Nobody works a full 8 hours, just look at how active gaf is during the day When many are at work.
 
Manufacturing production would be exempt of course. These days you really just needed bodies, hence why automation will be so important.
 

Akuun

Looking for meaning in GAF
I totally agree. Most people realistically only have about 6 really productive hours in an 8 hour day. Your mind just dies or seizes up after a while if you push it for too long.
 

Kyuur

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The job location they chose is kind of weird; I would think a Nursing Home needs 24/7 coverage, so if they switch to 6 hour days, they would need to pay another entire person per day (or more, depending on staffing needs). That's a pretty significant cost when you're not reducing the other people's wages.

I do understand this for other kinds of jobs, 9-5 type deals.
 
Working a 9 hour shift at an IT job, I'd loooooove a 6 hour work day. The last 2-3 hours are hell, especially when everyone decides they need to call right when I'm about to leave. :/

Same job, 8 hour stints that I regularly turn into 9 or 10 hours ... doesn't phase me in the slightest!

*Reaches for Jameson's*
 
Tend to agree. I worked a 5-hour schedule last summer and that seemed perfect to me. Enough work that my day felt full but enough leisure that I could tend things on the homefront well too.

Hopefully this becomes a norm in America sometime in my working life (i'll hit retirement age in the 2050s)
Never happening nor even feasible in the states unless they adjust your salary to still be even survivable with the less amount of hours being worked.
 

-KRS-

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I remember hearing there's also one Toyota service place in Sweden that have or have tried 6 hour workdays with great success.
 

Jarlaxle

Member
I could easily do the same job and same amount of work within 5 hours if not less time and be much happier to go home early. Oh well, 8.5 hour days are here to stay. Oh well, I guess I wouldn't be on GAF as much if I wasn't sitting here all day.
 

Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Shocking news. Will never happen in America, sadly :(
 

Acidote

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My work day is as follows:

9:00 to 13:00 100% Productivity
13:00 to 13:30 Lunch time (So 37.5hrs a week of actual work time)
13:30 to 15:00 Productivity progressively falls to 50%
15:00 to 17:00 Usually braindead

And I know I have it better than most people.
 

Mr Swine

Banned
The job location they chose is kind of weird; I would think a Nursing Home needs 24/7 coverage, so if they switch to 6 hour days, they would need to pay another entire person per day (or more, depending on staffing needs). That's a pretty significant cost when you're not reducing the other people's wages.

I do understand this for other kinds of jobs, 9-5 type deals.


Problem is that more and more people are getting sick and burned out because they work to much. Heck, the government has tried lots of things to combat it and while it looks like it works it gets worse after a while
 

Retro

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I wish we could try this out in America-I've thought this for a long time. There seems like so much wasted time at work just to fill the "8 hour shift"...

We did something kind of similar; longer days, but shorter weeks. It worked.

He realised that if swaths of public sector workers all worked a shorter week in unison, he’d be able to close public buildings on the extra day, so saving money. But something like this hadn’t been tried state-wide before. All kinds of problems might emerge, from childcare to public anger over lack of access to services. “I thought, we can study this for another six months or we can do it, and figure it out as we go,” Huntsman recalls.

At only a month’s notice, 18,000 of the state’s 25,000 workforce were put on a four-day week. Around 900 public buildings closed on Fridays, with even more partially closing. Many of the state’s vehicles were left in their garages on the extra day, travelling 3m fewer miles. Only essential safety services and a few other staff were exempt. You might expect such a quick and significant change to cause turmoil.

“It started with a one-year test period, and there were hiccups at the beginning,” says Professor Rex Facer, from Brigham Young University, an adviser on the initiative who also analysed its impact. “Some businesses complained about access to public officials on the day departments closed. But the agencies figured out the problems, the state communicated what it was doing better, and in six months complaints dropped to zero.”

Facer looked into how the public and state employees responded. Eight out of 10 employees liked the four-day week and wanted it to continue. Nearly two-thirds said it made them more productive and many said it reduced conflict at home and work. Only 3% said it made childcare harder. Workplaces across the state reported higher staff morale and lower absenteeism. There were other surprises, too. One in three among the public thought the new arrangements actually improved access to services. “The programme achieved exactly what was intended,” Facer says. “The public and businesses adapted to it. The extended opening times on the four days when employees worked were actually preferred by many. It was more convenient for them being able to contact public bodies before and after conventional working hours.”

Falling energy prices reduced the expected economies, but the change still saved the state millions. Staff wellbeing went up with the longer weekend and with shorter, easier commuting outside the normal rush hour, which benefited other commuters, too, by reducing congestion. It wasn’t the objective, but at a stroke the four-day week cut carbon emissions by 14%.

Conservatives "lalala cant hear you lalala"

The above example happened under a Republican Governor, in freakin' Utah of all places.
 

Blackthorn

"hello?" "this is vagina"
I'm self employed and work hourly so I know exactly how much time I can "actively" work, which is around 5-6 hours. I use another hour or two for organisating/management/communications if I have to.

When I worked a 9-5, that amount didn't change, and instead I killed time for the rest of the hours. I was literally getting paid for doing nothing at all, or working at a very low quality level if my boss was breathing down our necks and insisted on seeing us looking busy.
 
For the service industry this sounds very good. But how would it go in things like manufacturing and construction? Would think some sectors can benefit from this, due to better productivity during those hours. But others would just need to hire more people to get the same amount of work done.
 
When I first started my current job, my shifts were six and a half hours. I worked just enough to still be a full time employee.

I made less money, but I was happier in general. Getting back to that while keeping my current income would be pretty amazing.

This will never, ever happen in the US, though.
 

kinggroin

Banned
This is a beautiful thing.


Won't happen in the US (we are a business, money-driven society as a whole despite having somewhat sovereign states).
 

Rad-

Member
I don't believe this will work long term. I think people's minds will adapt to the shorter work day eventually and at some point 6 hour work day will feel about the same as 8 hour work day now.
 

CoolOff

Member
I don't believe this will work long term. I think people's minds will adapt to the shorter work day eventually and at some point 6 hour work day will feel about the same as 8 hour work day now.

What do you base that opinion on? Do you think it would be the same for 4 hour workdays? If not, why?
 

Dalek

Member
My work day is as follows:

9:00 to 13:00 100% Productivity
13:00 to 13:30 Lunch time (So 37.5hrs a week of actual work time)
13:30 to 15:00 Productivity progressively falls to 50%
15:00 to 17:00 Usually braindead

And I know I have it better than most people.

100% accurate. By the end of the day, I have documentation I still need to type out, but I sit and stare at the screen, unable to type as I'm mentally wiped out.
 

TheChaos0

Member
This sounds very okay in concept, but I work for money and not for fun.

So unless "society" drastically raise wages I don't see this getting much traction anywhere.



I can absolutely relate to that. My job requires a lot of focus and concentration, and I can guarantee that I'm pretty much burnt up at around 3pm.

Me and my colleages already dubbed 3pm the dead zone, because everyone just kind of tanks around that time. It's really interesting to see and something companies like mine should do way, way more research on. The "8 to 5" mentality is so nineties and holds little merit considering workload and pressure has increased dramatically since that era. You cannot expect employees to endlessly give more and more.

I try to save up some of more brain-dead tasks for after 3.
 
I don't believe this will work long term. I think people's minds will adapt to the shorter work day eventually and at some point 6 hour work day will feel about the same as 8 hour work day now.

Same was probably said when 8 became the standard
 
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