Oh, we’re gonna stop talking now? Got it
I guess the topic's run its course? If the same points are being recycled and people got stuff out their system.
Some final thoughts on my end: I've seen people like KingThrash call out the article being inaccurate, saying that the scene wasn't about Miles replacing Peter, but Miles being able to handle things on his own without Peter needing to help him as often. And, that it was more a setup for a Miles Morales 2. On some level that interpretation makes a lot of sense and I'm surprised NO ONE else really stopped to think if it was more WRT a Miles Morales sequel and not Spiderman 3. On some level I guess it can show how easily triggered and reactionary people are when it comes to this type of stuff (on both sides).
A number of times I've said I have basically "checked out" of this culture war stuff and that's true; I've been on both sides of the coin and at some point, you just see the same shit regurgitated but with different icing. The grifters and loud voices who propagate & push this culture war always devolve into doing so with a flavor of malice, and misdirecting their anger at the wrong targets. Like, I just finished watching parts of the Synthetic Man Spiderman 2 video and I just wish all the parts about "woke" shit were cut out because had they just stuck to critiquing the combat mechanics, glitches, mini-games etc. that would have been much better.
Instead you've got parts where he's calling (possibly) biracial people "mutts" and you can tell in the tone of his voice it's not from a point of irony or playfulness; there's anger and malice there. Like at some level he's subconsciously blaming
them for Spiderman 2 because hey, if they didn't exist, the devs wouldn't have "pandered" to them by...simply including them in the game as normal characters? Meanwhile what they're basically asking for when it comes to what they want out of these games, boils down to pandering as well. They just want
their interests to be pandered to, but not those "other people"s. That's honestly what it comes down to, which is why I've said that the woke and anti-woke are largely the same. They're just too angry and stupid to see it and too stubborn to talk like adults.
Which is another thing: most of the grifters and creators putting out the woke & anti-woke content are adults. A lot of them are older than I am (or at least in some cases, they
look older). I can understand if teenagers are into this stuff; for most of them it's a phase and it's "popular" online, it's maybe a way for them to vent because they don't know better ways to channel their angst. But full-grown adults shouldn't have that problem. They should be able to rationalize their anger and find productive means of positively leveraging it to contribute to better, not repackage it as smut to sell to kids and make ad dollars on. Yet here we are :/
Usually when people say things are 'woke', IMO if they really know their stuff, they can articulate why the product is bad without dipping into using buzzwords or rhetoric like that. Same with woke people who try telling me why something is good but they can only use talking points like "It has women! It has minorities! It has gays! It's the first (insert underrepresented group here)-led (insert product type here)!". None of that has anything to do with the actual quality of the writing, directing, acting, cinematography, iconography, themes (and expression of them), plot logic, musical score etc. You know, things you can measure quality of both objectively and subjectively. Things that don't suddenly start feeling like you're attacking groups of people simply by talking about them, even when you get very passionate about it.
But that all said, I'm not going to pretend ultra left-wing extremist progressive agendas don't exist in a lot of today's media. I know it's there, I can spot it when I see it, and I try not being selective about it either. Over time though I guess my take on what would be considered those things is a lot more strict than some of the people who think they see it literally everywhere today. When I spot that type of woke stuff, I shrug my shoulders, but it's the actual quality of the work that determines whether I give it a chance in spite of it or just drop it altogether. Something being diverse in and of itself isn't going to make me turn away because some of the best works out there are diverse...as are some of the worst. Same with non-diverse works, so that should tell people diversity itself isn't a good measure to state if something is bad or not.
Anyway this is getting kind of long-winded and there's a LOT more that could be discussed on a topic like this, but I'm gonna go eat some breakfast. TL;DR: people are probably misinterpreting that scene, the article misinterpreted it, and likely means a setup for Miles Morales 2 not literally Miles replacing Peter in Spiderman 3.
BUT, if I'm wrong...well that becomes Insomniac's situation to navigate.
