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Interesting tweets from Tom Warren regarding Xbox Arcade/Live

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Imagine you don't have to pay to play online at all on the competitors console.

Imagine if you do.

Will online play remain free? “We totally believe that we want to provide more functionality and more services and more content on the network. And so we are looking at how we are going to structure that. And we are not ready to talk about that.”

-Shuhei Yoshida
 
Why do you always pull this when some one calls you out for cheer leading MS. It's quite obvious you're a big fan of theirs and are pained by any criticism of them. Just embrace it no one buys that you don't care.

Gotta love how anyone who doesn't join the chorus of negativity, and would rather wait for official confirmation of information, must automatically be Microsoft fanboys.

But people proclaiming that Dualshock 4 is their favorite controller are what? Time travelers?
 
MS has done some shitty stuff this gen but let's stop pretending that it's the only one that did things that have "no excuse".

Why are you bringing up strange talking points irrelevant to the discussion at hand? No one is pretending MS to be the only company providing bad service: But this topic is about them and their bad practice of forcing subscription service for very small benefits.
 
No need to imagine, they're in the process of that right now.
Really? Because i can't remember the last original IP they released that was actually good. Aside from Alan Wake which was 3 years ago.

And i am talking about disc based titles, not XBLA. Matter a fact this whole generation i can only think of like 3 new IPS they introduced. And one of them was and still is mediocre.
 
Really? Because i can't remember the last original IP they released that was actually good. Aside from Alan Wake which was 3 years ago.

And i am talking about disc based titles, not XBLA. Matter a fact this whole generation i can only think of like 3 new IPS they introduced. And one of them was and still is mediocre.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=511206

XBLA games don't count? I mean I don't really care what your reasoning behind this is, but that sounds dumb. They're just as much games as anything else.
 
Really? Because i can't remember the last original IP they released that was actually good. Aside from Alan Wake which was 3 years ago.

And i am talking about disc based titles, not XBLA. Matter a fact this whole generation i can only think of like 3 games they did.

you expect new ip at the end of a console cycle ?
 
Really? Because i can't remember the last original IP they released that was actually good. Aside from Alan Wake which was 3 years ago.

And i am talking about disc based titles, not XBLA. Matter a fact this whole generation i can only think of like 3 new IPS they introduced. And one of them was and still is mediocre.

Yeah 360 had nothing good to play*

*XBLA, Digital, Multiplats and Existing IP from previous generation do not count.
 
Gotta love how anyone who doesn't join the chorus of negativity, and would rather wait for official confirmation of information, must automatically be Microsoft fanboys.

But people proclaiming that Dualshock 4 is their favorite controller are what? Time travelers?

This rumour is about their planned perpetuation of their practice of paid multiplayer. Just because we lack official confirmation doesn't mean we can't talk negatively towards the prospect.

What does the DS have to do with all this?
 
you expect new ip at the end of a console cycle ?
I expected new ips through out its life.

Not Halo 95 or Gears 15. Aside from Gears and Alan Wake what did they do? Excluding the XBLA stuff what new AAA IP they do? I'm not trying to start a flame war i honestly want to know where the support was. Sony was knocking out new IPs left and right all generation and has 2 more coming out at the end of the life cycle while xbox is still pumping out boring sequels. I don't buy these consoles to play 15 sequels, i want console exclusive stuff. I have a PC if i want to play XBLA and third party titles.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=511206

XBLA games don't count? I mean I don't really care what your reasoning behind this is, but that sounds dumb. They're just as much games as anything else.
I am talking about AAA console only exclusives. Not a XBLA game i can get on PC.

If you want to count them that's fine but i have a PC for that and third party titles. I buy consoles for games i can't play elsewhere, is that hard to understand? I don't want another Gears or Halo or Forza or Gran Turismo or Killzone. I want NEW stuff. Those games are fine but there is a point where it just ends but being a mediocre snooze fest.

Yeah 360 had nothing good to play*

*XBLA, Digital, Multiplats and Existing IP from previous generation do not count.
If the 360 is the only gaming device you have in your house yeah.. It's great. If you have multiple gaming devices it really offers nothing unless you are a huge halo or gears fan which i am not. I think i turned on my 360 twice in the past 2 years. I just want to know where the new stuff is. I don't care about timed DLC.
 
Crecente in the comments in the Polygon article yesterday said there rumors regarding Microsoft and Indies but hasn't been able to confirm them yet.
 
I am talking about AAA console only exclusives. Not a XBLA game i can get on PC.

If you want to count them that's fine but i have a PC for that and third party titles. I buy consoles for games i can't play elsewhere, is that hard to understand? I don't want another Gears or Halo or Forza or Gran Turismo or Killzone. I want NEW stuff. Those games are fine but there is a point where it just ends but being a mediocre snooze fest.

Well, like I said I don't care about why you think XBLA games don't count as games, but you didn't address the link I provided. 4 new IP's in development.
 
Really? Because i can't remember the last original IP they released that was actually good. Aside from Alan Wake which was 3 years ago.

And i am talking about disc based titles, not XBLA. Matter a fact this whole generation i can only think of like 3 new IPS they introduced. And one of them was and still is mediocre.

Kidding right? The whole Gen, only 3?

Crackdown?
Viva Pinata?
Kameo?
Alan Wake (you mentioned)
Gears?
Dance Central?
Kinect Sports?

Sony introduced Uncharted, Resistance, Motorstorm, Heavy Rain, Warhawk, Infamous and?

Seems pretty close to me. I know there's some missing from both lists but I tried to stick to decent titles.
 
I expected new ips through out its life.

Not Halo 95 or Gears 15. Aside from Gears and Alan Wake what did they do? Excluding the XBLA stuff what new AAA IP they do? I'm not trying to start a flame war i honestly want to know where the support was. Sony was knocking out new IPs left and right all generation and has 2 more coming out at the end of the life cycle while xbox is still pumping out boring sequels. I don't buy these consoles to play 15 sequels, i want console exclusive stuff. I have a PC if i want to play XBLA and third party titles.


I am talking about AAA console only exclusives. Not a XBLA game i can get on PC.

If you want to count them that's fine but i have a PC for that and third party titles. I buy consoles for games i can't play elsewhere, is that hard to understand? I don't want another Gears or Halo or Forza or Gran Turismo or Killzone. I want NEW stuff. Those games are fine but there is a point where it just ends but being a mediocre snooze fest.
New IP does not imply guaranteed fun game.
 
Family options should have been standard for a long time and rebranding the Live Arcade to make it more cohesive with the Windows 8 ecosystem makes complete sense. Not too interesting, but I guess we are starved for any concrete information on Durango.
 
imagine ... if xbox live actually give you free games from month to month
and actually give you "REAL" credits money in your account instead of " 20 mp gift for your birthday"

imagine if FFXIII versus become xbox exclusive..imagine
imagine if COD games become side scroller game....imagine


imagine if you could order a pizza from your xbox without moving to PC or mobile to.....oh wait

just....imagine
 
Kidding right? The whole Gen, only 3?

Crackdown?
Viva Pinata?
Kameo?
Alan Wake (you mentioned)
Gears?
Dance Central?
Kinect Sports?

Sony introduced Uncharted, Resistance, Motorstorm, Heavy Rain, Warhawk, Infamous and?

Seems pretty close to me. I know there's some missing from both lists but I tried to stick to decent titles.
Dance Central? Kinect Sports? Really? I will give your Crackdown and Cameo. They were decent.

Well, like I said I don't care about why you think XBLA games don't count as games, but you didn't address the link I provided. 4 new IP's in development.
That link does nothing but make me think it's going to be 4 Kinect games i am going to give absolutely 0 shits about.

I just want something other then Gears and Halo. XBLA, again.. I can play them on PC. I buy consoles for the console exclusives.

Also you are forgetting Last of Us and Beyond Two Souls.
 
Journey must not count either.

Well Journey's not a game because it doesn't have AAA status. I guess That Game Company has to ship all their awards back. Sorry guys, it's not game. Pack it up. Here's your awards, give them to Walking Dead. Oh wait, that's not a game either? Oh.....oh. Oh.
 
Dance Central? Kinect Sports? Really?

Are you planning on re-stating the goal posts to only include certain types of games?

Also you are forgetting Last of Us and Beyond Two Souls.

He is forgetting two games which haven't been released yet? So you're saying that actual released games don't count if they're digitally distributed, but unreleased games do count?
 
Dance Central? Kinect Sports? Really? I will give your Crackdown and Cameo. They were decent.

Also you are forgetting Last of Us and Beyond Two Souls.

2 games you haven't played yet.

You obviously haven't played Dance Central or Kinect sports either. Why? Oh that's right, "lol Kinect".

Gamers as narrow minded as yourself shouldn't call yourselves gamers.

edit. Damn you Stump.
 
That link does nothing but make me think it's going to be 4 Kinect games i am going to give absolutely 0 shits about.

I just want something other then Gears and Halo. XBLA, again.. I can play them on PC. I buy consoles for the console exclusives.

I don't care what you give a shit about. I'm just pointing out you were completely wrong about Microsoft not making new IP's. The thread shows they're making 4 new games, your argument is invalid.
 
I don't care what you give a shit about. I'm just pointing out you were completely wrong about Microsoft not making new IP's. The thread shows they're making 4 new games, your argument is invalid.

This happens all too often. So many centralize their own views and disregard what others may be interested in.
 
Imagine if you didn't have to pay for online features.

Imagine if you could read responses before you posted. Maybe you would have come up with something a little more original.

This happens all too often. So many centralize their own views and disregard what others may be interested in.

it's fine that people don't like certain franchises, but don't bullshit me and tell me something when I can pull up a thread instantly to prove you incorrect.
 
Kidding right? The whole Gen, only 3?

Crackdown?
Viva Pinata?
Kameo?
Alan Wake (you mentioned)
Gears?
Dance Central?
Kinect Sports?
Also:
Mass Effect
Lost Odyssey
Blue Dragon
Lips
The Gunstringer (the best kinect game imo)

+ a ton of original XBLA games.
 
I'm suddenly reminded why I tend to avoid any threads about the Xbox/MS.

Yep, same here.

The amount of unreasonableness/shortsightedness far exceeds the threads about the other consoles.

And I always get a hoot of out of the whole "Xbox has no games" argument since it usually ends with the person who originally states it making a VERY specific category of games to try and win the debate.

Crow will be eaten. That's for sure. Always is the case during the time in which new consoles are about to be released.
 
Kidding right? The whole Gen, only 3?

Crackdown?
Viva Pinata?
Kameo?
Alan Wake (you mentioned)
Gears?
Dance Central?
Kinect Sports?

Sony introduced Uncharted, Resistance, Motorstorm, Heavy Rain, Warhawk, Infamous and?
Heavenly Sword was decent
 
Of course it's not a definite, but if Sony does decide to charge for online multiplayer with PS4, what then?

The rest of the world not on message boards seems to have little problem with buying subscriptions because that's the norm. Threats and tantrums online because of charging for what we believe should be free isn't going to change much and basically paints you into a corner.

"I'm not buying the new Xbox because I refuse to pay for online play. It's stupid."

"Ummm... Sony just revealed its own subscription plan. Cheaper than MS, but online play is no longer free."

"I'm not buying the new Xbox or the PS4 because I refuse to pay for online play. It's stupid."

I appreciate not liking this trend, but millions of others have voted with their wallets that it's okay to do this. Sony can elect to not charge for online with PS4, but leaving all of that potential revenue on the table would be another point of contention between Sony and its investors.
 
Of course it's not a definite, but if Sony does decide to charge for online multiplayer with PS4, what then?

The rest of the world not on message boards seems to have little problem with buying subscriptions because that's the norm. Threats and tantrums online because of charging for what we believe should be free isn't going to change much and basically paints you into a corner.

"I'm not buying the new Xbox because I refuse to pay for online play. It's stupid."

"Ummm... Sony just revealed its own subscription plan. Cheaper than MS, but online play is no longer free."

"I'm not buying the new Xbox or the PS4 because I refuse to pay for online play. It's stupid."

I appreciate not liking this trend, but millions of others have voted with their wallets that it's okay to do this. Sony can elect to not charge for online with PS4, but leaving all of that potential revenue on the table would be another point of contention between Sony and its investors.

Good points.
 
Of course it's not a definite, but if Sony does decide to charge for online multiplayer with PS4, what then?

The rest of the world not on message boards seems to have little problem with buying subscriptions because that's the norm. Threats and tantrums online because of charging for what we believe should be free isn't going to change much and basically paints you into a corner.

More people continue to flee to PC.
 
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