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Interstellar |OT| (dir. Christopher Nolan) Whatever can happen will happen

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SolidChamp said:
I remember a time when Rottentomatoes wasn't complete shit. Their layout was better. Used to be they only added the "critics consensus" after they had a substantial number of reviews...you know, an actual CONSENSUS.
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I like the site overall but yeah who writes those consensuses? It seems like they could easily sway an overall reception of a film to whatever they like
 
SolidChamp said:
I remember a time when Rottentomatoes wasn't complete shit. Their layout was better. Used to be they only added the "critics consensus" after they had a substantial number of reviews...you know, an actual CONSENSUS.
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Yeah that is stupid, I guess they wanted site clicks as fast as possible for the page.
 
Delta Assault said:
Rush already got mentioned. Also, I'd direct your attention to both Kung Fu Panda films. The Chinese influences are delightful and respectful of the culture, while the overall soundtrack meshes perfectly with the fast paced action sequences.

And uh... hey, I think Inception was good.
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Doesn't count when John Powell is his collaborator on the Kung Pow films. Just like his Batman scores went to shit without JNH.
 
Scullibundo said:
Doesn't count when John Powell is his collaborator on the Kung Pow films. Just like his Batman scores went to shit without JNH.
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Your relentless Zimmer hate drives me crazy, man. Just want you to know that.
 
This film is going to be divisive. While his past films had done a good job of trying to connect with the mainstream audience who are there just to be entertained, with Interstellar I get a feeling that he is aiming a bit higher which means less hand holding and more thinking.

Oh and Wally seems to like it.

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hal9001 said:
This film is going to be divisive. While his past films had done a good job of trying to connect with the mainstream audience who are there just to be entertained, with Interstellar I get a feeling that he is aiming a bit higher which means less hand holding and more thinking.

Oh and Wally seems to like it.

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Did Nolan ever mention Transcendence and what he thought of it lol
 
Just got back from seeing it. Loved it so much. Had no idea about the negative reviews.

Worth noting: I hated Inception. Still actively hate it.
 
Huh didn't expect such low review scores. Thought it would be another high scoring movie for Nolan.

Will still watch. I need to see if it goes for that Gunbuster ending.
 
Chinner said:
69% is pretty average. sounds like this is the spiritual successor to the dark knight returns, i.e. shit. might skip this one and watch that ouija board film instead.
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I know the rage that drives you, Chinner. That impossible anger strangling the grief of another middling Nolan, until the memory of The Prestige is just poison in your veins. And one day you catch yourself wishing Batman Begins had never existed, so you'd be spared your pain. I wasn't always here in this thread. Once I had a BatGAF, my great love. It was.... taken from me. Like you, I was forced to learn that there are those who post without decency that must be moderated without hesitation, without pity. Your trolling gives you great power, but if you let it, it will destroy you, as it almost did me.
 
Discotheque said:
comic fanboys love that term. i'm just baffled that whedon fooled critics into liking his script.and it's proof positive that RT is such a weird metric for reviews. it's better to read the actual reviews themselves than look at the number. you start to get a better feeling of what the movie might be like.

it's a problem with all blockbusters on RT tbh. especially cartoons and comic book movies. they have to be very divisive to get below 80.
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Can we please stop shitting on other movies that people liked in order to make Interstellar seem "better"? Whedon didn't trick anyone into liking his script, it was a genuinely well written script for a difficult to make comic book ensemble movie. The fact that he pulled it off in such a way that allowed the majority of movie goers to enjoy the movie immensely is a testament to just how good the script actually was. Just because you didn't like it doesn't mean it was horrible or that Joss "fooled" critics into liking it.

If Interstellar's reviews suddenly shot up to 92% on RT today would that mean that Nolan had fooled the critics into suddenly liking his movie more too?


Discotheque said:
stop it slime. i thought man of steel kinda sucked . go back to the mcu thread.

i admit it was a mistake to bring up the avengers if this is gonna turn this OT into a comic book movie debate. please no, don't do this. i'm sorry.
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Yes, please, don't do this. Interstellar is going to be a fantastic movie, at a minimum it's going to be worthy for some actual mature discussions. Let's not turn this thread into a comic book debate thread, let's actually talk about space travel and science and the actual movie itself. Please.
 
Continuing the trend of polarising reviews:

Empire Review: 5/5

This is Nolan at his highest-functioning but also his least accessible; a film that eschews conflict for exploration, action for meditation and reflection.

As a light-year-spanning quest to save the human race, this is the director’s broadest canvas by far, but also his most intimate. And against the alien backdrop of black holes, wormholes and strange new worlds, Interstellar stands as Nolan’s most human film to date. Brainy, barmy and beautiful to behold, this is Stephen Hawking’s Star Trek: a mind-bending opera of space and time with a soul wrapped up in all the science.
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Looks like the European Press loves it more than US press


http://www.huffingtonpost.fr/2014/1...-mcconaughey_n_6054166.html?utm_hp_ref=france

http://www.lexpress.fr/culture/cinema/interstellar-la-critique-de-stud io-cine-live_1615863.html

http://www.premiere.fr/Cinema/News-...c he-sous-une-grande-odyssee-spatiale-4076675

http://www.telerama.fr/cinema/on-a-vu-interstellar,118453.php

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We saw the film "Interstellar" by Christopher Nolan with Matthew McConaughey.. and it keeps all its promises
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Christopher Nolan directs his 2001, A Space Odyssey. Glory be to him!
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And if Christopher Nolan is the new Stanley Kubrick?
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. Extremely simple and grand. Kubrick? Spielbergien? Kaufmanien? Zemeckisien? No, nothing like that. Difficult to imagine a more Nolanian than this film.
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Less refined than Gravity, less playful than Guardians of the Galaxy, Interstellar is no exception to the norm of the Major American story. But the double temptation, marshmallow or philosophical (Nolan has always taken for Kubrick) does not alter the pure pleasure "escapist" in this ultra-spectacular épopé
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Interstellar proves to be far probably the most beautiful tribute to the late Grand Master Kubrick cinema and at the same time suggests a self- conscious change of direction for Christopher Nolan
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you can also see why very immense and inspiring adventure is probably exactly the right film at the right time .
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Intelligent and exciting , Interstellar sets the need for mindless Hollywood products to expire. Nolan transformed the secrets of the universe in a cinematic playground , Profound and visually arresting moments are thought provoking
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http://www.filmfutter.com/interstellar/

http://www.moviepilot.de/news/begeisterte-stimmen-zu-christopher-nolans-interstellar-137890
 
seem like some critics are nit picking flaws in the movie, some are even unreasonable like the one complain about having to think too much
 
Tugatrix said:
seem like some critics are nit picking flaws in the movie, some are even unreasonable like the one complain about having to think too much
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the consistent criticism is, this is more like a science report than a popcorn movie. Its more deep in science than they asked for

Now it's up to viewer to decide how they like that
 
Maninthemirror said:
the consistent criticism is, this is more like a science report than a popcorn movie. Its more deep in science than they asked for.
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I have not seen that sentiment anywhere in the negative reviews aside from one (Guardian's). I'm so hyped for Interstellar but let's not lean into this narrative that it's "TOO AWESOME" for some critics.

Here are some quotes from actual negative reviews on their problems.

The Wrap found problems with the third act, and the film's portrayal of women:
Weighing against that, without getting into spoilers, is a third act of staggering wrongheadedness, along with female characters whose intellect takes a backseat to their exploding emotionalism and rage. Nolan is, presumably, among a handful of filmmakers who gets to do whatever he wants with minimal studio intrusion, but the resolution of “Interstellar” feels so inorganic that you'd swear it was concocted by a Glendale focus group.
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Cinemablend found the plot to be predictable and poorly told:
“Predictable” isn’t a word we’d expect to be uttered within 10 miles of a Christopher Nolan movie - and yet it’s painfully necessarily in discussion of Interstellar, Nolan’s aesthetically beautiful, large-scale sci-fi drama that is admirable in its ideas and style, but lacking in its storytelling and execution. [...] the film is high-minded, but ultimately taken down by a mix of both obvious and overly-confusing plot maneuverings. Big mysteries introduced at the start are solvable instantaneously, and far too often, big questions aren’t asked until it’s convenient for the plot.
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The Playlist found the film to be overly-sentimental and sappy:
While the great complaint about Nolan is that he’s too cold, too clinical, too unemotional, he’s over-corrected here to such a degree than instead of drifting a little from one side to the next, he plows, swiftly, and disastrously, into a ditch of his own making—or, rather, of his and co-writer Jonathan Nolan’s making. A film where any character says “maybe love … transcends time and space …” is not exactly an exciting prospect for a moviegoer interested in characters, ideas, and plot more than, or even as much, as they are in IMAX-sized visual wonder and all of the feels. [...] Christopher Nolan's "Interstellar" spends hundreds of millions to take the audience on a journey to the farthest parts of the cosmos ... so they can be told sentiments as close, and as cheap, as any of the offerings at your local Hallmark card retailer.
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Forbes found the plot to be overstuffed and the character's to be poorly developed:
Yet there is too much fat outside of the core dilemma, especially as the film reaches an emotional peak at around the halfway mark. Moreover, many of the characters aren’t terribly engaging despite the fine and dedicated cast. It’s well-acted by all parties, but too many of the supporting characters don’t resonate beyond scientific talking heads. Michael Caine gives good exposition as expected, and both Jessica Chastain and Casey Affleck are hauntingly good as (no spoilers) desperate survivors of what may be the last generation of humanity. Anne Hathaway gets but one terrific monologue about quantifying human emotion while the rest of the outer-space/NASA folks are relatively dry (that Hathaway is the main female character yet is, slight spoiler, both distracted by would-be love and needs to be rescued costs the film a few points).
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There are many various reasons that some people are falling negative on the film. Most of them seem to be based in the script. However let's actually read and think about what the reviews are saying. Just telling ourselves things like "It's almost TOO scientific for those critics" is going to cause you to over-hype yourself and end up dissapointed.
 
Solo said:
I know the rage that drives you, Chinner. That impossible anger strangling the grief of another middling Nolan, until the memory of The Prestige is just poison in your veins. And one day you catch yourself wishing Batman Begins had never existed, so you'd be spared your pain. I wasn't always here in this thread. Once I had a BatGAF, my great love. It was.... taken from me. Like you, I was forced to learn that there are those who post without decency that must be moderated without hesitation, without pity. Your trolling gives you great power, but if you let it, it will destroy you, as it almost did me.
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Fucking LOL.
 
Inferno313 said:
I have not seen that sentiment anywhere in the negative reviews aside from one (Guardian's). I'm so hyped for Interstellar but let's not lean into this narrative that it's "TOO AWESOME" for some critics.

Here are some quotes from actual negative reviews on their problems.

The Wrap found problems with the third act, and the film's portrayal of women:


Cinemablend found the plot to be predictable and poorly told:


The Playlist found the film to be overly-sentimental and sappy:


Forbes found the plot to be overstuffed and the character's to be poorly developed:


There are many various reasons that some people are falling negative on the film. Most of them seem to be based in the script. However let's actually read and think about what the reviews are saying. Just telling ourselves things like "It's almost TOO scientific for those critics" is going to cause you to over-hype yourself and end up dissapointed.
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That's funny the guy in the wrap complaining over women's role while women who have seen it themselves have said this movie empowers women.

The majority of the reviews negatively focus on the headiness of the movie both in positive reviews and negative reviews. Most people who love the movie call the 3rd act the best in the movie, even David Poland who didn't like it mentioned the same. Very few have issues with the 3rd act. It seems to be coming down to if you are satisfied with the conclusion of the movie

The Forbes article mentions the scientific talking head talk again where the main actors are good in their roles and lower role actors into science based exposition
 
Chinner said:
69% is pretty average. sounds like this is the spiritual successor to the dark knight returns, i.e. shit. might skip this one and watch that ouija board film instead.
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Watch either Big Hero 6 or John Wick, instead.
Or both, can't go wrong with both.
 
Even though I always look at RT reviews all the time, they never really hold much weight in both my decision to go see a movie and my own personal opinion. There have been movies on RT in the 20-50's I have enjoyed quite a bit. So with that said I can't wait to see this!
 
CinemaBlend - 6/10

Interstellar would be a stunning piece of cinema if you weren't supposed to think about it.

Full Review… | October 27, 2014

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Wow. Guy's fucking serious.
 
Corpsepyre said:
CinemaBlend - 6/10

Interstellar would be a stunning piece of cinema if you weren't supposed to think about it.

Full Review… | October 27, 2014

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Wow. Guy's fucking serious.
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Why is it a bad thing if a movie forces you to think?

I don't get this argument.
 
He's not saying that. He's saying that Nolan presents a movie that entices you to think but falls apart when you actually think about it.
 
Corpsepyre said:
CinemaBlend - 6/10

Interstellar would be a stunning piece of cinema if you weren't supposed to think about it.

Full Review… | October 27, 2014

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Wow. Guy's fucking serious.
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That quote is from CraveOnline not Cinemablend.

Here's the whole context:

nterstellar would be a stunning piece of cinema if you weren’t supposed to think about it, but Nolan’s problematic story challenges his audience with too many relevant social concepts, doomsday scenarios and impossible moral choices to prevent them from turning off their brains. And since your brains are already working, you might as well question all the gaps in rudimentary storytelling that derail this otherwise ambitious and beautifully produced popcorn movie, which only falls flat because it seems to be vying for the role of “best movie ever made.” Interstellar forces you to be too smart to enjoy Interstellar. I don’t think very many movies have had that problem before.
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Essentially he's saying that the movie is trying so hard to be a masterpiece, that the story-telling flaws stand out much more.

It's a strange argument but even he concedes that it's a weird problem. We'll really have to see the movie before we can truly disagree.
 
Solo said:
He's not saying that. He's saying that Nolan presents a movie that entices you to think but falls apart when you actually think about it.
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At this point, you can't fault Nolan for inconsistency in that department!

I'm going to see the film (and, hopefully, in sweet, sweet 70mm), but it does sound like he might want to pare down the ambition and have a more tightly focused film in the future. Not necessarily a smaller one, really, but one that isn't putting too much on the plate for everything to fit right.
 
There is some serious denial going on in this thread.

Guys, negative reviews are ok. Every movie you've ever loved has it's detractors. Their opinions are just as valid as yours. It doesn't change the content of the actual movie. The movie is the same as it was before you read their review. You don't have to poke holes and try to deconstruct their opinion on a movie you haven't even seen yet.

If anything, read the negative reviews to get your hype down. The movie might be more enjoyable for you then.
 
Or the opposite. Didn't Inception have its fair share of detractors as well? I loved that movie. Will watch this in IMAX and see what's up. Been waiting for it for a while.
 
Man those IMAX tickets were expensive.

2 tickets for myself and my girlfriend were $39 Canadian, $19.50 each.
 
Ridley327 said:
At this point, you can't fault Nolan for inconsistency in that department!

I'm going to see the film (and, hopefully, in sweet, sweet 70mm), but it does sound like he might want to pare down the ambition and have a more tightly focused film in the future. Not necessarily a smaller one, really, but one that isn't putting too much on the plate for everything to fit right.
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Oh hell no. I'd rather a director's reach exceed his grasp than deliberately aim lower for easier results.
 
Solo said:
He's not saying that. He's saying that Nolan presents a movie that entices you to think but falls apart when you actually think about it.
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So basically every Nolan movie ever?

I enjoy his movies, they're well crafted but he has serious delusions of grandeur. Nolan basically made an autobiography with The Prestige - his body of work is 100% smoke & mirrors. Entertaining smoke & mirrors, but smoke & mirrors all the same.
 
TrumanBurbank said:
Talking about RT scores, Matthew M. has just been killing it the last few years.

Certified fresh, one after another after another.
What a run.
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He's a very good actor. Personally I've though the world of him ever since Contact. He's also the lead in one of my guilty pleasure movies, U-571. Damn if I don't love that movie. Whenever I want to show off my soundsystem to someone I throw U-571 into the player. The sounds of water dripping all around the sub, followed by those deafening depth charges as rivets and steel creak, it's a great audio / visual experience.

Oh, and Matthew's pretty good too, lol.
 
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