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[Stoze]

It's been a common complaint since the premiere of this, TDKR and Inception.

Nolan needs to hire a new ADR team already.

That's unfortunate. That bugged the shit out of me in his last couple movies, but apparently I'm the only one out of my friends/family who noticed it. Some of the sounds are ear deafing while I end up missing bits of dialouge either because its too soft or because its muffled behind Bane or Batman's goofy voices, or Saito's bad english.

 

[Messofanego]

Just back from checking this out in imax

Not sure what I feel. I liked it well enough, but also felt like it could have trimmed down a bit.

Looks great.

Got to meet some of the cast, and of course Mr. Nolan.

Not sure what you feel? This isn't some arthouse film about deaf people with no subtitles and unconventional plot structure, man!

Probably his sloppiest film when it comes to editing.

Lots of wonderful scenes but never delivers on its concept.

Too many tangents that could be their own movies.

Very dense, not enough time spent getting familiar.

Gravity > Interstellar

And Gravity was garbage, so this doesn't bode well.

Just got out of the movie and can say I'm not a fan. Cool visuals but over all just a giant meh.

That's too bad. All the impressions so far from here have been mixed to negative, so it seems critics are actually giving this a lighter shake than audiences.

 

[More_Badass]

Not sure what you feel? This isn't some arthouse film about deaf people with no subtitles and unconventional plot structure, man!



And Gravity was garbage, so this doesn't bode well.



That's too bad. All the impressions so far from here have been mixed to negative, so it seems critics are actually giving this a lighter shake than audiences.

Did you see the positive impressions from earlier in the thread?

Saw it last night. Loved it.

http://www.kotaku.com.au/?p=678149

Just saw it.

There was a premiere with Nolan live from Paris on screen just before the movie, talking a bit about himself and the movie, was pretty cool.

As for the movie, as my most anticipated movie in a long, long time (maybe ever), a space nut and rather neutral Nolan appreciator...

...Wow. Just fuckin wow. I'm not one to go overboard with hype and praise and all, but it blew me away. It's just, I don't know... I can't spoil anyway, but I'm gonna go see it a second time ASAP (in IMAX this time).

It's just grandiose.

 

[killercow]

I was at the Paris Premiere last week and I thought it was a good movie (by Nolan's standard). I'm a huge fan of his and I do not think this is his best movie but still, it's a great movie about space and humankind albeit letdown by some weird issues (supporting cast, leap of faith on the third act).

I would advise anyone to go see the movie without watching any trailer (like I did). It makes for a much more enjoyable experience.

The Prestige is still my favorite (non-franchise) movie from Nolan.

 

[Mengy]

And Gravity was garbage, so this doesn't bode well.

IN YOUR OPINION Gravity was garbage. I and many others find it to be an awesome film.

Can we please not shit on other movies in this thread in order to make Interstellar seem better? Can we just focus on the movie this thread is about and for once not sling around mud at each other like monkeys? Can we not state opinions like fact just to make ourselves seem smarter or more intellectual than others? Can we not hate on things that others like?

Can we act like mature adults for once?

Please?





If not, then I think Messofanego's taste is garbage.

 

[Solo]

Gravity > Interstellar

That bad, eh?

 

[effzee]

That's too bad. All the impressions so far from here have been mixed to negative, so it seems critics are actually giving this a lighter shake than audiences.

You seem to latch onto every negative review and proclaim it to be a consensus.

Read the first few pages of this thread for over the top positive reviews from regulars and reviewers.

Seems to me the movie could have 9 out of 10 people really like or love it but that 10th review which is negative seems to carry all the weight for a lot of people. I don't get why people are expecting 100% positive reviews. No other critically acclaimed movie has that. Whenot all reviews are in and fan opinion is factired in it will probablyou be 80-85% positive.

If your like the work Nolan does than why even be persuaded by reviews? And if you don't like the Nolan things Nolan does than you know the movie will have those quirks. Don't need some review to confirm that.

 

[KevinG]

People really disliked Gravity that much? Was my favorite film from the last year.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

People really disliked Gravity that much? Was my favorite film from the last year.

Its a popular movie, you get attention when you quickly put it down. Watch this:

Is it possible for the movie to be the clunkiest Nolan film of all-time? Inception and the Batman sequels, you've met your match. I wonder how many shot-reverse-shot close-up Nolan shoots for all his never ending exposition masquerading as dialog conversations.

 

[Inferno313]

People really disliked Gravity that much? Was my favorite film from the last year.

People really like Gravity.

Gaffers who let themselves get over-hyped for everything are the ones that don't like it.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

But if you're in a Nolan reading mood, here's a good article from one of my favorite critics, Tom Shone.

Christopher Nolan: the man who rebooted the blockbuster

The editing room scene was pretty humorous, dude really doesn't like digital.

“Is that a flare?” Nolan asked as another sequence came up, this one showing Hathaway on an alien planet at sunset, a halo of light briefly visible at her shoulder.

“We can take that out,” offered Walter Volpatto, the digital colourist who was overseeing the work.

“It’s in-camera,” Nolan declared. “Put your can of bleach away. Can you go back to the hospital scene and do a split screen for the whole sequence? To my eyes it all looks a point brighter.”

Volpatto called up the images, showing McConaughey again, this time entering a hospital room. “It’s pretty good, I think,” he said.

“That’s always what we strive for in the movie business – pretty good,” Nolan said sarcastically, squinting at the two sets of images. “We lowered it [the brightness] a whole point the other day, so something is drifting. We’re repeating ourselves.”

“I put them in,” Volpatto reassured him, referring to the changes. “In my experience, a flipped screen will always reveal new differences. Your eye adjusts. You clear away the moss and then you start to see a whole new level.” The implication seemed to be that we were caught in the visual equivalent of Zeno’s paradox: clearing away blemishes only to reveal still more, and so forever on, until such time as you made peace with imperfection. “In my experience,” Nolan replied, motioning toward the bank of computers that separated his production team from the digital colourists, “people behind this line are full of shit.”

“This is why I prefer film to digital,” Nolan said, turning to me. “It’s a physical object that you create, that you agree upon. The print that I have approved when I take it from here to New York and I put it on a different projector in New York, if it looks too blue, I know the projector has a problem with its mirror or its ball or whatever. Those kind of controls aren’t really possible in the digital realm.”

To the untrained eye there seemed to be no difference between the two images. “I have no reason to lie to you,” Volpatto said, sounding a little miserable.

 

[Maninthemirror]

Dat polarization

 

[b&jy77VjiKn$#F]

^ The quoted conversation may contain details that I think are spoilers. Just a little warning.
Edit: Dammit I meant viewtilfuljc's post

 

[Blader]

“You know, when you left yesterday, I felt like I had maybe been a little rude to Walter,” Nolan told me the next day. “I haven’t worked with him before. He doesn’t know my sense of humour yet. He was trying to please me and I was like, yeah, you’re lying to me. That is my sense of humour. But I went in this morning to finish up, and he said to me, ‘Oh, I looked at the projector, and it was brighter.’ When he analysed it in terms of light output – because he is a very sharp man, Walter – it was exactly one point.”

In other words, Nolan was right.

Walter's dead isn't he

 

[ViewtifulJC]

Walter's dead isn't he

The Hollywood term is "his position has been adjusted to better fit Nolan's needs"

here's another fun quote:

When the studio asked if Snyder would add a comedy coda ending, in the style of Marvel, Nolan’s reply was “A real movie wouldn’t do that.”

 

[wachie]

People really like Gravity.

Gaffers who let themselves get over-hyped for everything are the ones that don't like it.

The funny thing is that the people who shit on Gravity (for it's script) are the same people who like/love Avatar.

Spoiler

I loved Gravity.

Fuck all this derail.

 

[Solo]

People really disliked Gravity that much? Was my favorite film from the last year.

It's a technical marvel and well acted, but it's thematically hollow and the emotional arc is undercooked. Didn't like it at all.

 

[Anustart]

It's a technical marvel and well acted, but it's thematically hollow and the emotional arc is undercooked. Didn't like it at all.

My complaints as well with Gravity. There's just nothing there Wanted to like it.

I'm going to see Interstellar at 8 tonight, hoping for something great!

 

[Dahbomb]

Hey man I rather enjoyed both Gravity and Avatar, hard to forget experiences.

 

[Maninthemirror]

for people thinking its another Prometheus from someone who didnt like it

 

[KooopaKid]

I prefer Interstellar over Inception.
Nolan is not really known to make fun movies but this one will be much more rewatchable than Inception mainly because of the characters.
It's a shame Nolan movies are a bit cold. They need much more humor and imagination.
In the same way his dreams were dull and too grounded in reality, his galaxies and planets are not awe-inspiring.
Nolan's strong point is intellectual concepts.

 

[killercow]

I prefer Interstellar over Inception.
Nolan is not really known to make fun movies but this one will be much more rewatchable than Inception mainly because of the characters.
It's a shame Nolan movies are a bit cold. They need much more humor and imagination.
In the same way his dreams were dull and too grounded in reality, his galaxies and planets are not awe-inspiring.
Nolan's strong point is intellectual concepts.

Spoiler

I thought the robots were a great touch and added some humor to it.

 

[brandonh83]

It's a technical marvel and well acted, but it's thematically hollow and the emotional arc is undercooked. Didn't like it at all.

It's basically a ride. A good one, but when it's over, there's nothing much else to say about it really. It tries really hard to have these undertones but they were all incredibly forced and none of that worked.

 

[KidJr]

Got my IMAX tickets, I've accepted he will never create a film as subtly clever as the prestige but I can live with that. I have high hopes.

 

[Mengy]

It's a technical marvel and well acted, but it's thematically hollow and the emotional arc is undercooked. Didn't like it at all.

Sounds like you were expecting Gravity to be more than it was supposed to be. I still love Gravity after multiple viewings but I never expected it to be 2001 Space Odyssey. I've seen Predator dozens of times and it's my favorite action movie of all time but I don't fault it for not having the emotional impact of Saving Private Ryan or the thematic concepts of The Matrix. I realize that it was never supposed to.

Maybe I just enjoy most movies for what they are and don't hate them for being what they aren't, I guess.

 

[shira]

Argh. Negative gafreviews!

I think I'll need a rewatch before I can form mine opinion.

 

[KooopaKid]

Spoiler

I thought the robots were a great touch and added some humor to it.

Spoiler

Yes but not enough, it still needs more human touch, funny/cute elements, like the kiss scene or "what is a kick" scene from Inception

 

[Messofanego]

The funny thing is that the people who shit on Gravity (for it's script) are the same people who like/love Avatar.

Spoiler

I loved Gravity.

Nah dude, I hate Avatar too.

Looks like I can lower my expectations for this movie when I see it on IMAX with the family:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbUACNxx-pQ

Disappointing to hear the movie isn't as deep in the characters or themes and loses its emotional footing. Too bad it's another visual spectacle sci fi. It's another Gravity. It's another Prometheus. It's another Avatar.

Going to see Nightcrawler today though, heard that was brilliant. And I still saw loads of great movies this year (Norte The End of History, Grand Budapest Hotel, Starred Up, The Wind Rises, Raid 2, LEGO Movie, 22 Jump Street, Dawn of the Planet of the Apes), so hopefully this won't sting as much.

They're just really average sci-fi to me, nothing much stuck. Gravity was especially disappointing coming from the guy who did Children of Men. It was not as thought-provoking or emotionally riveting. Sandra Bullock's character was so insufferable given her medical background, her character arc didn't amount to much, and the fetus symbolism made me laugh out loud. Not to mention the pacing feels like the director is scared the audience will get bored so there's an action setpiece every 10-20 min, which gets tedious and predictable.

At least in the same year, The Congress, Cloud Atlas, and Europa Report (recc if you liked Moon) were more satisfying sci fi movies for me. Heck even, The World's End and Upstream Colour. I still haven't sen Mr Nobody though XD

What's with the dude above me shouting IN YOUR OPINION as if that's not obvious for any opinion about a subjective medium that you need to disclose every post with an "imo"? lol

This year comparatively has been ok for sci fi. Dawn of the Planet of the Apes, Edge of Tomorrow, Purge Anarchy have been ones that were memorable. Do want to see Enemy.

 

[TrumanBurbank]

Quentin Tarantino on Interstellar

“It’s been a while since somebody has come out with such a big vision to things,” Tarantino told The Guardian. “Even the elements, the fact that dust is everywhere, and they’re living in this dust bowl that is just completely enveloping this area of the world. That’s almost something you expect from Tarkovsky or Malick, not a science fiction adventure movie.”

http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/quentin-tarantino-compares-inte%20rstellar-to-tarkovsky-malick-20141104

 

[Blader]

Enemy isn't sci-fi. It's just odd.

 

[Platy]

A friend said that the first 2/3 are glorious ... but the film falls horribly in the end =(

 

[Daft_Cat]

Quentin Tarantino on Interstellar



http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/quentin-tarantino-compares-inte%20rstellar-to-tarkovsky-malick-20141104

Yupp.

I don't know why people are "lowering expectations" and acting like the film is divisive. 3 quarters of the critics weighing in on Rotten Tomatoes are very positive. Even the negatives mention the vision and ambition. On Metacritic, it's well on par with his other work... falling between The Prestige (his lowest) and The Dark Knight (his highest).

In the broader spectrum of opinion, the usual hyperbole seems to be out in full force. Even incredibly well-regarded filmmakers are swinging by to lavish their approval. I can't really think of the last time a film was received like this.

 

[Anton Sugar]

I'm a big fan of Matt Zoller Seitz and he seems to have a pretty honest, but very positive, review (I haven't read it all, btw):

Christopher Nolan’s "Interstellar," about astronauts traveling to the other end of the galaxy to find a new home to replace humanity’s despoiled home-world, is frantically busy and earsplittingly loud. It uses booming music to jack up the excitement level of scenes that might not otherwise excite. It features characters shoveling exposition at each other for almost three hours, and a few of those characters have no character to speak of: they’re mouthpieces for techno-babble and philosophical debate. And for all of the director’s activism on behalf of shooting on film, the tactile beauty of the movie’s 35mm and 65mm textures isn’t matched by a correspondingly rich sense of composition. The camera rarely tells the story in Nolan’s movies. More often it illustrates the screenplay, and there are points in this one where I felt as if I was watching the most expensive NBC pilot ever made.

And yet "Interstellar" is still an impressive, at times astonishing movie that overwhelmed me to the point where my usual objections to Nolan's work melted away. I’ve packed the first paragraph of this review with those objections (they could apply to any Nolan picture post "Batman Begins"; he is who he is) so that people know that he’s still doing the things that Nolan always does. Whether you find those things endearing or irritating will depend on your affinity for Nolan's style.

In any case, there’s something pure and powerful about this movie. I can’t recall a science fiction film hard-sold to a director’s fans as multiplex-“awesome” in which so many major characters wept openly in close-up, voices breaking, tears streaming down their cheeks.

This has me hyped:

After a certain point it sinks in, or should sink in, that Nolan and his co-screenwriter, brother Jonathan Nolan, aren’t trying to one-up the spectacular rationalism of “2001." The movie's science fiction trappings are just a wrapping for a spiritual/emotional dream about basic human desires (for home, for family, for continuity of bloodline and culture), as well as for a horror film of sorts—one that treats the star voyagers’ and their earthbound loved ones’ separation as spectacular metaphors for what happens when the people we value are taken from us by death, illness, or unbridgeable distance.

But...

Quentin Tarantino on Interstellar

That’s almost something you expect from Tarkovsky or Malick, not a science fiction adventure movie.

http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/quentin-tarantino-compares-inte%20rstellar-to-tarkovsky-malick-20141104

Must. Not. Overhype.

 

[killertofu]

The IMAX Im going to on Thursday isn't showing the film in 70mm. Ugh I'm so dissapointed. It's a real IMAX too

 

[Maninthemirror]

Richard Roeper

4/4 A+

This is one of the most beautiful films I have ever seen — in terms of its visuals, and its overriding message about the powerful forces of the one thing we all know but can’t measure in scientific terms.

Love.

Also Richard Roeper has taken Ebert's old position at Chicago suntimes if anyone didnt notice

 

[jtb]

I would say I can't wait for the exposition overload explaining the concept of love, but we already got some of that in the trailer

 

[KooopaKid]

I would say I can't wait for the exposition overload explaining the concept of love, but we already some of that in the trailer

The only in your face exposition is some explanation on black holes and relativity.

 

[Blader]

Hmm, RT percentage is 75% and the average rating is a 7.4/10... I don't think I've ever seen those two numbers as close together like that before.

 

[Maninthemirror]

Big Hero 6 will beat interstellar at the BO.

also in article about Interstellar

When the studio asked if Snyder would add a comedy coda ending, in the style of Marvel, Nolan’s reply was “A real movie wouldn’t do that.”

 

[Anton Sugar]

also in article about Interstellar

 

[ezekial45]

What the hell do they mean by comedy coda?

 

[Anton Sugar]

What the hell do they mean by comedy coda?

Believe he's talking about stuff like the shawarma scene at the end of Avengers. He could just be speaking a bit more broadly about stingers/"secret endings".

This is all fine by me. Stinger upon stinger upon stinger gets annoying after a while. Sitting through the credits is a waste of time, just show the scene after the first few and let me leave the damned theatre.

 

[Skiptastic]

Richard Roeper

4/4 A+

Also Richard Roeper has taken Ebert's old position at Chicago suntimes if anyone didnt notice

Super excited to hear it. I felt like, since The Dark Knight, nearly everything Nolan has done has gotten 4 stars from Roeper and Ebert (RIP). Hearing that it continues makes me very happy.

 

[MMarston]

Got my ticket for Thurs. (not in IMAX unfortunately, but still in a quality theatre).

I'm ready to get wrekt.

 

[Deleted member 80556]

A friend said that the first 2/3 are glorious ... but the film falls horribly in the end =(

Interestingly enough, some people earlier said that the best part is the last third.

This really seems like a divisive film. I personally hope I'll love it. I want a good time. The same happened to me with Inception, only after reading about the small flaws did I notice them.

 

[Inferno313]

A.O. Scott has weighed in with a glowing review. He's been hit or miss with Nolan's films, and he's one of my favorite critics.

It may be enough to say that “Interstellar” is a terrifically entertaining science-fiction movie, giving fresh life to scenes and situations we’ve seen a hundred times before, and occasionally stumbling over pompous dialogue or overly portentous music. (In general, the score, by Hans Zimmer, is exactly as portentous as it needs to be.)

Of course, the film is more than that. It is in the nature of science fiction to aspire to more, to ascend fearlessly toward the sublime. You could think of “Interstellar,” which has a lot to say about gravity, as the anti-“Gravity.” That movie, which would fit inside this one twice, stripped away the usual sci-fi metaphysics, presenting space travel as an occasion for quiet wonder and noisy crisis management. Mr. Nolan takes the universe and eternity itself as his subject and his canvas, brilliantly exploiting cinema’s ability to shift backward and sideways in time (through flashbacks and cross cuts), even as it moves relentlessly forward.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/05/m...a-new-planet.html?smid=tw-nytmovies&seid=auto

 

[commish]

Tickets for tonight, SO EXCITE.

 

[Maninthemirror]

A.O. Scott has weighed in with a glowing review. He's been hit or miss with Nolan's films, and he's one of my favorite critics.



http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/05/m...a-new-planet.html?smid=tw-nytmovies&seid=auto

yeah that was an amazing review, he goes beyond if the movie is good or bad

 

[Rayven]

Saw it last night in IMAX and I really enjoyed it overall. The story and puzzles end up being nice and tight rather than bloated and confusing. Kind of reminiscent of the Prestige in that regard though I still think that's his finest effort. Super impressed with the sound and visual design of a few ambitious scenes and concepts.

It's not without its flaws. Some dialogue and pacing issues early and some questionable somewhat confusing character turns.

Highly recommended.

 

[Dahbomb]

Hmm, RT percentage is 75% and the average rating is a 7.4/10... I don't think I've ever seen those two numbers as close together like that before.

That probably because the people who didn't like it as much still gave it a decent score due to the visuals which are almost unanimously praised. 75 metacritic for a movie is still pretty good, that's almost 4/5 star rating.