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Charles Foster Kane
Rosebud
I didn't hate it, but man, Nolan needs to start trusting and respecting his audiences a bit more. Either that or hire better writers.
First impressions, while they're fresh in my head.
It tried very much to be 2001, even the score, during the very first scene with the crash, I half expected to hear Also Spracht Zarathustra. I get it, it had references, and homages, but still, it tried, maybe too much.
It had it's plot holes, as with any movie (location of the planets, the amount of ships they had, but suddenly not enough fuel etc.), all or most can be forgiven, or explained away of course.
A few plot points very also very predictable, water planet, first thing that popped in my head was tsunami-wave, ice planet, yepp, crazy scientist, etc.
Very beautiful though, the visuals were at times breathtaking.
All in all, an enjoyable movie, but nowhere near the masterpiece all my friends (and most the internet for that matter) said it would be.
It tried very much to be 2001, even the score, during the very first scene with the crash, I half expected to hear Also Spracht Zarathustra. I get it, it had references, and homages, but still, it tried, maybe too much.
It had it's plot holes, as with any movie (location of the planets, the amount of ships they had, but suddenly not enough fuel etc.), all or most can be forgiven, or explained away of course.
A few plot points very also very predictable, water planet, first thing that popped in my head was tsunami-wave, ice planet, yepp, crazy scientist, etc.
Very beautiful though, the visuals were at times breathtaking.
All in all, an enjoyable movie, but nowhere near the masterpiece all my friends (and most the internet for that matter) said it would be.
Battersea Power Station
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How does ice planet imply crazy scientist? Is this a sci-fi trope I'm unfamiliar with?
Disagree. The entire movie is as about a father and his love for his daughter. Space is just a setting. It definitely felt like a movie in which the lead is supposed to survive. Their final scene is a huge emotional payoff that makes the movie.
Oh, sorry, I was unclear, it wasn't that water planet implies tsunami, or ice planet implies crazy scientist. Just that the plotwise, I expected some struggle, and usually someone goes crazy, and seeing the planet, I assumed the scientist would've probably gone bananas and lied.
It's predictability didn't come from sci-fi tropes, but just how it followed the basic beats of any old movie.
Monocle
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I agree. I guessed what the "ghost" was immediately.
NemesisHunter
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I have a question about TARS: about it learning not to trust Dr.Mann and asking CASE to disable the auto-pilot as a precaution.
How exactly did TARS find out Dr. Mann is not to be trusted? And if he did, why did he not warn the Endurance crew? He did try to warn Romily as the scientist tried to access the datalog left behind by Dr.Mann's AI assistant, but wasn't able to save him in time. This means that at some point between him backing away from Dr.Mann's AI assistant and him returning to warn Romily, he found out about the danger. What exactly was the trigger that led his logic to deduce this?
How exactly did TARS find out Dr. Mann is not to be trusted? And if he did, why did he not warn the Endurance crew? He did try to warn Romily as the scientist tried to access the datalog left behind by Dr.Mann's AI assistant, but wasn't able to save him in time. This means that at some point between him backing away from Dr.Mann's AI assistant and him returning to warn Romily, he found out about the danger. What exactly was the trigger that led his logic to deduce this?
The original price of the Walmart exclusive was $35 before, look's like they dropped the price to $23!
I just pre-ordered the Walmart exclusive from Walmart for $25.03 after tax and includes free standard shipping. It say's arrival is Friday April 3!
Tesseract
Banned
i really kinda dug the whole quantification of love thing, it's a beautiful sentiment.
i didn't mind the ghost stuff, i don't think nolan was trying to gotcha anyone with the twists.
they should have wrote out the brother, and expanded murph's physics training. the fight scene could have been improved, it was pretty stiff.
everything else was perfect, lovely visuals and music.
i didn't mind the ghost stuff, i don't think nolan was trying to gotcha anyone with the twists.
they should have wrote out the brother, and expanded murph's physics training. the fight scene could have been improved, it was pretty stiff.
everything else was perfect, lovely visuals and music.
Question about the ending. Supposedly any information that passes a blackhole's event horizon can never escape. If this is the case, then how was Coop able to send information to Murph? Gravity? Isn't a Singularity basically infinite gravity and infinite space folded in on itself?
Battersea Power Station
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Whatever creatures are helping them (probably human ancestors from the future) have some control of spacetime, and created the tesseract for him to manipulate, including being able to affect gravity in limited ways. I guess the implication is that the properties of spacetime within the black hole allow them to do this for him, as well as to send him to a different point in spacetime afterwards.
Well ignoring the "get out of jail free card" of hyper-dimensional post human beings being able to solve this for him with their technology (that was behind the wormhole (wow did auto-correct really try and change this to whore hole?) appearing, the tesseract and getting Cooper/Tars into and out of a black hole) I'm pretty sure that the latest theories on black holes do allow for information leakage in certain cases - i.e. it's not necessarily one way in the right situation.
I should google it but can't be bothered (sorry) but that's what I remember.
On another note I know Kip Thorne was the science advisor and Nolan gave him veto rights on film content that pertained to science ( which I understand he used at least once) so I'm also blithely assuming Thorne wouldn't have allowed the concept to pass unless there was some way to justify it theoretically.
True Savior
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The tesseract is basically at the edge of the singularity. He's not sending it through the blackhole but through the object .
bernardobri
Steve, the dog with no powers that we let hang out with us all for some reason
http://www.avclub.com/article/bill-irwin-interstellar-robin-williams-steve-marti-216828?
Great interview with Bill Irwin about his many roles, which includes his thoughts on TARS.
Great interview with Bill Irwin about his many roles, which includes his thoughts on TARS.
Tpthrlldragster
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Here's the cell that came with my blu-ray. Anyone get any really good ones?
Here's the cell that came with my blu-ray. Anyone get any really good ones?
Anton Sugar
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Here's the cell that came with my blu-ray. Anyone get any really good ones?
I got a close-up of Murph's hand holding the watch. Kinda cool.
Ninja Scooter
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I can't tell what the fuck mine is. Did anyone else get the special edition from Walmart? The case it comes in is super nice and it has a little mini art book. Only like $4 more than the regular edition.
Just watched it. Amazing movie, although I can see why it might not be everyone's cup of tea.
Just an interesting note not sure if it has been mentioned yet (big thread) the old people talking about the dust are interviews from people who experienced the dust bowl. I recognized two of them from Ken Burns The Dust Bowl I watched on Netflix a few weeks back. Thought that was a nice touch.
Just an interesting note not sure if it has been mentioned yet (big thread) the old people talking about the dust are interviews from people who experienced the dust bowl. I recognized two of them from Ken Burns The Dust Bowl I watched on Netflix a few weeks back. Thought that was a nice touch.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
film is dying and there they are just hacking it to bits and packing it into a blu-ray. Monsters. Philistines. How could Nolan sign off on this wasteful travesty?
bernardobri
Steve, the dog with no powers that we let hang out with us all for some reason
35mm production is the one "dying". If anything, IMAX film is only a standard for major productions at this point.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
I was being a smartass, though
I used to be a projectionist, and you'd better believe I used to take little "souvenirs" from the booth before we had to send a print back.
Sometimes those souvenirs were whole trailer reels.
Himynameischris
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Here's the cell that came with my blu-ray. Anyone get any really good ones?
Cool, I got one of Matt talking to someone during the baseball game, I'm really glad I got the Wal-Mart one, the booklet and movie case are really nice too
Wasn't one of them Old Murph too?
Charles Foster Kane
Rosebud
Yes. First one to speak, I think.
nvrndr
Member
I love the Walmart edition.
He was 35 at the start of the movie, not mid 40's.
You can deduce this because his daughter was 10 when he left + 2 year journey to Saturn + 23 years on the water planet, at which point Jessica Chastain Murph sends him a message that states it his her birthday and they are now the same age.
Technically didn't Murph send that message previously and he was just watching it then?
Couldn't have been much earlier, as the next scene transitions into the present moment with her back on Earth in the lab. She also sends the message of Professor Brandt's death soon afterwards and it seems to get to them on the ice planet pretty quickly.
ShooterMcGavin
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Finally got around to watching this. I'm just such a fanboy when it comes to Nolan movies; I loved everything. Hans Zimmer continues to be one of the best in the business as well.
To be fair I think the transition to her talking to the professor was just a transition, and could have easily been a time jump, showing what happened after she had sent it, potentially years before. Open to interpretation, and pretty irrelevant point though
For that message, it gets to them quickly because one of the robots transmits it to the ship on the planet. They didn't have that option available for the water planet.
TheSadRanger
Banned
Watched this again the other night. One of the little attention to detail things I noticed is the food that Murph was having for dinner when she visits Tom and his family.
On the table was cornbread, corn on the cob, and corn nuggets
No wonder Tom seemed like he was kind of crazy
On the table was cornbread, corn on the cob, and corn nuggets
No wonder Tom seemed like he was kind of crazy
supernormal
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Here's the cell that came with my blu-ray. Anyone get any really good ones?
Here's my little piece of Interstellar.
Interstellar-Print by S R V A S Q U E Z | instagram @DOSARTE, on FlickrI've watched it at least 5 times already (I watch all my movies many times). One of the things I didn't catch in the cinema, and there's a lot to miss upon first viewing, was when Cooper gave Romilly an ambience soundtrack to listen to to calm him down. Little tiny thing that was pretty cool.
ReturnOfTheRAT
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My subwoofer sure got a work out. It even moved a couple inches. SVS cylinders are no joke. Whole house was shaking. No sound in space, that's cool too.
I'm a sucker for people gone made in space. Seeing Matt Damon wake up (Martian, anyone?) and then screw them all over was right in my wheelhouse of love. Not quite Sunshine levels of beautiful surprise but good enough.
TARS and CASE pretty cool. At first I thought wtf is Nolan doing, is he trying to make me laugh unintentionally? In the end I bought in and it worked, odd design and all. TARS especially is helpful until the end.
Nolan's casting for though, almost too much here. Too many familar faces I thought.
And I'll admit, no I didn't think that Cooper was the ghost. Well done Nolan and co. you got me there.
This was Nolan's most ambitious film yet. I can't say that it worked as one cohesive film though. Inception which feels similar in some ways, folding world dream, dreams in general, love, and catharsis all work better in Inception. That movie is still his masterpiece. Unlike TDKR I think this has the chance to get better with repeat viewings.
I'm a sucker for people gone made in space. Seeing Matt Damon wake up (Martian, anyone?) and then screw them all over was right in my wheelhouse of love. Not quite Sunshine levels of beautiful surprise but good enough.
TARS and CASE pretty cool. At first I thought wtf is Nolan doing, is he trying to make me laugh unintentionally? In the end I bought in and it worked, odd design and all. TARS especially is helpful until the end.
Nolan's casting for though, almost too much here. Too many familar faces I thought.
And I'll admit, no I didn't think that Cooper was the ghost. Well done Nolan and co. you got me there.
This was Nolan's most ambitious film yet. I can't say that it worked as one cohesive film though. Inception which feels similar in some ways, folding world dream, dreams in general, love, and catharsis all work better in Inception. That movie is still his masterpiece. Unlike TDKR I think this has the chance to get better with repeat viewings.
pixelation
Member
I really liked it more than i thought i would, the OST was specially tasty...
This is what I got. It's actually what I was hoping to get, that or a nice shot of the endurance or black hole. I was pretty surprised and happy with it. The odds of me getting a blurry shot of something random seemed far more likely lol.Here's my little piece of Interstellar.
I've watched it at least 5 times already (I watch all my movies many times). One of the things I didn't catch in the cinema, and there's a lot to miss upon first viewing, was when Cooper gave Romilly an ambience soundtrack to listen to to calm him down. Little tiny thing that was pretty cool.
Lucky Forward
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I know it's often been pointed out how the robots resemble the monolith from 2001, but when Cooper was in the tesseract floating in front of vertical lines lines that resolved into shelves of books, did anyone else feel an echo of the scene in 2001 where Bowman was shutting down HAL's higher functions by removing his memory modules? The modules were vertical clear blocks that were arranged much like books on shelves.
Atraveller
Banned
One thing I noticed today, when Cooper was driving away from his house, he flipped up the blankets on the seat besides him, to see if Murph was hiding there, it's a nice touch.
I know it's often been pointed out how the robots resemble the monolith from 2001, but when Cooper was in the tesseract floating in front of vertical lines lines that resolved into shelves of books, did anyone else feel an echo of the scene in 2001 where Bowman was shutting down HAL's higher functions by removing his memory modules? The modules were vertical clear blocks that were arranged much like books on shelves.
half the movie was an "homage" to 2001, Nolan really went overboard with the references...
DiipuSurotu
Banned
It's pretty hard to miss...
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