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Interview with Blizzards Paul Sams, Xbox360 etc
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Spider_Jerusalem
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Which is simply wrong, unless they're less skilled than Square-Enix.gofreak said:
PS2, PC and Xbox 360 players can play all together.
I wonder how Sony's element with their PS3 service that lets outside companies(blizzard, EA, whatever) have direct customer-relationship with us, I wonder how that will work. Will be interesting to see.
Maybe for your 'master' PS3 account you can 'subscribe' to Battle.net, EA...etc.
So whenever you login into a Blizzard game on your PS3, your master account logs in with your subscribed Battle.net account for you(and when a friend logs in, his battle.net name possibly different from his master account name, my master account/PS3 service will tell me "Bob has loggged onto battle.net as Bob99").
Maybe for your 'master' PS3 account you can 'subscribe' to Battle.net, EA...etc.
So whenever you login into a Blizzard game on your PS3, your master account logs in with your subscribed Battle.net account for you(and when a friend logs in, his battle.net name possibly different from his master account name, my master account/PS3 service will tell me "Bob has loggged onto battle.net as Bob99").
Spider_Jerusalem
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And this is exactly what MS did to Xbox Live when they modified it to allow EA coming in, and also what allowed Square to put FFXI on the 360. So I really don't understand this "XBL is closed!" complaining...Wollan said:
from tom's rants
"If you want to do a server-based game like an MMORPG, you can. If you want your server-based game to speak to other servers, they can. First, your server software must be certified in order to get the decryption software. That means that a very strict battery of tests is run against the server. Second, your server must be up for at least five years. Third, your server must either be hosted by Microsoft or at a Microsoft-approved hosting facility in order to protect the decryption software for Live. Finally, any updates to the server software or downloadable content must be certified the same way the original software was."
"If you want to do a server-based game like an MMORPG, you can. If you want your server-based game to speak to other servers, they can. First, your server software must be certified in order to get the decryption software. That means that a very strict battery of tests is run against the server. Second, your server must be up for at least five years. Third, your server must either be hosted by Microsoft or at a Microsoft-approved hosting facility in order to protect the decryption software for Live. Finally, any updates to the server software or downloadable content must be certified the same way the original software was."
Spider_Jerusalem
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Very interesting read. Thanks!<nu>faust said:
Spider_Jerusalem
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But it's what you're doing in FFXI. The feature is there, if the developer wants to use it.Wollan said:
again from tom's rantsspeedpop said:
"Because Xbox Live servers host all of the downloadable content and Microsoft handles all of the billing, Microsoft takes a percentage of any payment for downloadable content and subscriptions. Right now, that works out to about $0.75 on a $5 piece of content. Not bad, considering that unlike other consoles, Microsoft eats the certification costs, which run between $20,000 and $50,000 per certification submission."
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I think Blizzard is probably working on 360 WOW but won't release it until they get better royalty rates and more server control from Microsoft. It's just a bargaining ploy right now. If Blizzard get what they want, they'll release it on 360 and probably pick up another million or two subscribers along the way. If not, they will probably scrap the port.
Pretty much, Blizzard is in a position to rake Microsoft over the coals. Microsoft is the one that would have to bend over backard for Blizzard. I don't think Blizzard would be willing to compromise. And why should they? It's their IP, their servers their personnel upkeeping it. They should get everything.
Beer Monkey
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WhaaaaaH, Xbox Live is closed, we can't own the network WHAAAAAAH.
i don't really a reason for ms to really to bend over backwards for billizard either: ms spend put alot of effort &resources over time to bring xbl to the level where it is today , they are not going to comprimise unless not bringing the game to xbl becomes a risk factor for them (like let's say wow's subscriber number reaches 10 mil by the end of 2006/2007, sony accepts billizard's rules and announces wow's ps3 version....) Plus ,there is a decent amount of big name publishers(with well known ips) trying to get in to console mmorpg market and create the "wow of console world" with accepting ms's rules.Mashing said:
Mrbob said:
This is a comment that should also be applied to the digital distribution thread. Would MS allow a third party digital distribution scheme (e.g. Steam)? Or would it just become a virtual retailer, only much more powerful because it would have a monopoly on the distribution? But perhaps this is the wrong thread.
krypt0nian
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Yes yes...No WOW for 360...until its announced that is...
Kabuki Waq
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good one less crappy scam + nongame off the system. Now if only FFXI would get cancelled.
<nu>faust said:
I didn't understand a word from what you said, anyway I have to damage control Blizzard so let me put a simple math-sheet for you:
Xbox Live userbase - circa 2M users paying $4 monthly for countless Xbox games. Pretty good deal If I was to say myself.
WoW userbase - 6M users paying $15 monthly for ONE game on a "dying" platform. Goddamn, that's ridiculous! if I was to say myself.
Now who needs who?
Blizzard doesn't need both Microsoft nor Live service, never did to be frank and probably never will given their PC sales numbers. Blizzard makes billions their own way in the PC market (*gasp* I thought everyone abandoned this "sinking" ship!).
Thank you for your attention.
Beer Monkey
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The success of non-games like MMOs is tricking people into thinking that PC gaming is surviving. 
Borys said:
sorry for the wording of the original post ,this is what happens when i try to post between my coding and talking on the phone
i know it's kinda hard to read my original post but basically this was what i've tried to say , billizard and ms do not need each other at this point. Both of the companies invested too much effort, time and money into their own business models and they are both successful at what they do without the help of the other, why would wanna change the way do things and share control of their precious money makers? It's not like majority of 360 owners are dying to play wow, or vu stock holders constantly questioning billizard about a console version of wow.Nobody knows what future will bring though: maybe sony will come with an open platfrom with PS3 HUB and will force ms to change it's business model, maybe wow's popularity will diminish in 1-2 years, maybe square's next gen mmorpg will make console gamers forget about wow or maybe wow's popularity will continue to soar to new heights and ms will be forced to make a compromise ..... it's all speculation at this point.
I know you are all over sensitive and passionate about the criticisms against the pc platform and the future of pc gaming but if you just could ask me what i meant with my badly worded original post before giving me math sheets, i'd be a happier person. I make a living by doing math calculations and writing code all day ,i really don't need any more math lessons (but english lessons...i guess i need them
)<nu>faust said:
Pretty much agree. Both camps are happy - Blizzard making billions and MS not compromising the Live standards - the way the situation is now.
Yeah, that's me.
I make a living by doing math calculations and writing code all day ,i really don't need any more math lessons (but english lessons...i guess i need them
Cool, I also code for a living (in X++) - in what language do you code?
Ulairi said:
I don't know about that. I know a lot of 360 fans that are 100% sure that WoW will be on the 360 with support of all the mods out there. Of course, they also seem to think that the PS3 will have little to no exclusives and that every title will also appear on the 360.
well i think a specific console tailored version of wow is certainly doable, but since billizard is insisting on a version that would let all the userbase play together.... the chances are slim.Ulairi said:
well it's not like i know alot about the system,i have just read couple of articles on axapta systems/microsoft's danish aquisition. also i'm happy that you love your job and wish you good luck, cos' lately i hate what i do and i'm dying to switch to management/business development side of things.Borys said:Whoa, you are like the *first* person to know where X++ is used.I love it so far
<nu>faust said:
Heh, amen to that. I started off as a COBOL/C/C++ programmer way back in 1996, and I got sick and tired of staring at code day in and day out. Now, I tend to focus more on the networking and management side of things.
Now, back to the topic on hand, I never believed that they would bring this over to any of the consoles, anyway. I don't have a PC that can run WoW, so I would have liked it to be brought over at some point, but, I can understand their rationale.
I guess I'll just have to wait for Diablo 3 for the PS3/X360/Rev then...