crimsonheadGCN
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More at http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...ival-game-by-dean-hall-and-improbable-is-dead
Too bad it was cancelled. I really like the space theme.
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Ion, the space survival game by Dean Hall and Improbable, is dead
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More at http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...ival-game-by-dean-hall-and-improbable-is-dead
Too bad it was cancelled. I really like the space theme.
UnluckyKate
Member
So after DayZ never got finished, announced on PS4 and was never shown, he left, announced this, that got cancelled...
Okay then.
Okay then.
VanquishUK
Member
Dudes a walking disaster.
EdwardTivrusky
Member
LordRaptor
Member
If that was my pitch for a game I would also be NOPEing the fuck out post-No Mans Sky too.
justsomeguy
Member
You could almost say he doesn't
HAH. Pinocchio.gif.
Labombadog
Member
You could almost say he doesn't
Straight up SAVAGE.
redunzgofasta
Member
With the state its in right now on PC?
Triggerhappytel
Member
Of course it's dead. This guy is a disaster who cannot finish anything. I wonder how long it will be before Rocketwerkz goes out of business because they've got a guy who lies worse than Molyneux at their head who doesn't have the background to back it up.
UnluckyKate
Member
He left Bohemia, he's hasn't work on the PC version for years so the PS4 is a dream
Doug Heffernan
Member
He should team up with Sean Murray and Molyneux.
You could almost say he doesn't
Lmao, very true.
Glass Shark
Banned
Everything DayZ touches turns to ash
SlickShoes
Member
No, he left Bohemia years ago and moved back to Dunedin in New Zealand to start his own studio.
They have so far released Out of Ammo, a VR game, and like the article says have had ION canned and are working on some other stuff he is saying is amazing but as yet no one has any idea if it is (it's probably not).
UnluckyKate
Member
hasn't for at least 2 years...
Sad Affleck
Member
Dean Hall would be a great fit for Valve.
SlickShoes
Member
Just looked on Mobygames database and I have as many credits as he does and I haven't touched anything since 2011.
FrankCanada97
Roughly the size of a baaaaaarge
Dean Hall is probably off climbing mountains again.
EdwardTivrusky
Member
Yup, he's probably unavailable for comment because he's halfway up a mountain in the middle of a jungle on the edge of a volcano. You can see how DayZ could be inspired by his experiences, minus the zombies of course.
Piston Hyundai
Member
Mission accomplished.
Gabe should hire him and put him in charge of Half-Life 3, just so we'd all finally know for sure it'll never be released.
The comparisons to the industry's unfavored people seem a bit odd to me.
Like, let's follow his track record so far.
1.) Made the DayZ mod.
2.) Got hired by Bohemia to release an official DayZ product. Got frustrated with the company and left to start his own studio.
3.) Announced Ion as their first project.
4.) Released Out of Ammo, a VR strategy game: http://store.steampowered.com/app/451840/
5.) Announced Out of Ammo: Death Drive to Italica, a sequel to the previous VR game.
6.) Canceled Ion, saying the project didn't work out, but said that they're going to announce a new game at Rezzed.
Like, is there anything that bizarre here? Am I missing something? Sure, the official DayZ game is not very good, but that's Bohemia's project that he wasn't making business decisions for, and he never sold anyone Ion before canceling it.
Like, let's follow his track record so far.
1.) Made the DayZ mod.
2.) Got hired by Bohemia to release an official DayZ product. Got frustrated with the company and left to start his own studio.
3.) Announced Ion as their first project.
4.) Released Out of Ammo, a VR strategy game: http://store.steampowered.com/app/451840/
5.) Announced Out of Ammo: Death Drive to Italica, a sequel to the previous VR game.
6.) Canceled Ion, saying the project didn't work out, but said that they're going to announce a new game at Rezzed.
Like, is there anything that bizarre here? Am I missing something? Sure, the official DayZ game is not very good, but that's Bohemia's project that he wasn't making business decisions for, and he never sold anyone Ion before canceling it.
It's not just that Dean Hall left the production of his own game 3 months after its alpha release on steam made him millions of dollars, it's the fact that in his exit interviews he repeatedly claimed that the game was fundamentally flawed and he wanted to go work on a better game that really adds the flavor. So not only does he take the money and run, he basically tells his customers that he doesn't believe in the product he just sold them and decided not to finish. One of my favorite 'wtf is he thinking' developer stories of the past decade or so.
To my knowledge, DayZ is basically being used as an engine test for future ArmA games.
I mean he is a con artist, he's never gonna make an actual game.
That was my first thought too. Investors aren't going to want to touch that hot potato for awhile.
birthbystars
Member
Can't say I'm surprised, Dean Hall is the anti-Midas. Everything he touches rusts and dies.
admiraltaftbar
Member
Nice to see public opinion sour towards Dean Hall. I don't think he deserves outright hate (nobody does) but I was surprised how many people were okay with the lack of any real progress or plans for DayZ and who still thought Dean Hall was some wunderkind who was leaving DayZ because of after all the hard work he had put in he was moving on to greater things (and "much deserved rest"), instead of just abandoning the game.
I'd say he's an inventive guy but it never seems like he can follow through with the execution.
I'd say he's an inventive guy but it never seems like he can follow through with the execution.
I think people are dogpiling simply because he's a public figure that left a project before it was properly finished and now they blame him for it.
Thanks for the succinct update.
The Horror the horror
Banned
Basically he doesn't know wtf he wants.
Designers with this sort of ambitious and yet ambiguous vision are a nightmare to work with because they don't possess the relevant breadth of knowledge or functional solutions to implement said vision and get the ball rolling from a technical standpoint.
Please don't interrupt GAF hate mob with any sort of reason!
You're making quite the accusation from a single quote.
I'm sure he's got docs and prototype work that attempts to build the systems he's briefly described.
Question: do you work in the industry? I ask because of the bolded.
I wouldn't say so, he's the designer of the original dayz mod.
LordRaptor
Member
Yup, any perceived comparison to NMS is toxic right now, unfortunately.
A systemic based emergent interactions PVP oriented game sounds like what he wants.
Setting such a thing in space immediately has a number of 'gotchas' at a fundamental design level though.
For one, space is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist, but that's just peanuts to space.
GuitarAtomik
Member
Figured this was dead. You could tell when it was announced that it was barely an idea and we haven't heard from it since.
Didn't know about it but after him explaining how there was no money in making VR games and how even the staff didn't even want to work on VR anymore, it's pretty surprising.
edit : after a quick search it seems it's more of DLC that became it's own thing than a new project, I guess that's explain things.
My understanding is that people are super duper bitter at Hall because he left DayZ in an unfinished state and the game still hasn't lived up to the promises that were made years ago. I think a lot of people blame Dean's departure for DayZ's decline.