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Iron Maiden announce new album
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Solo said:
I disagree. Dance of Death is not terrible, though it has a bunch of fillers the other songs are too amazing that they make up for them. AMOLAD is excellent from start to finish (though I wish Bruce did better on some songs like Brighter Than a Thousand Suns). Brave New World is also a great album but the lack of Adrian songs make it my least favorite of the three (but its still a freaking amazing album from start to finish).
I also disagree about Steve Harriss writing, all the songs released last decade was written or co-written by him with the exception of New Frontier and most of these songs are fucking good. Now he only did 3 songs by himself, yes the choruses could use more words :lol but that alone does not make them bad songs.
Just my opinion.
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I call for a 10 year hiatus on the use of the phrase 'pales in comparison'. Who's with me?
sorry Solo 
Combichristoffersen
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Solo said:
Brighter.. was awful.
Ashour said:
I just tire of the way he structures his choruses/songs. He obviously writes with the live performance and fan sing-along in mind, so you get stuff like
Seventh son of a seventh son
Seventh son of a seventh son
Seventh son of a seventh son
Seventh son of a seventh son
or
Heaven can wait
Heaven can wait
Heaven can wait
Heaven can wait for another day
Etc. Add that to the fact that most of his recent songs are stretching awfully close to 10 minutes, and it gets on my nerves a bit. A 10+ minute song is great when its structured like Rime of the Ancient Mariner, but when its a chorus being repeated a thousand times, not so much.
If Smith/Dickinson wrote even half the songs, Ill be happy.
Endgame is pretty good, but what wRATH said is true. Even if it's good, some of the songs on it are SO generic. Megadeth is on the right track though, it seems they are returning to their former glory.TheLastCandle said:
Metallica on the other hand seems to try to hard. Death Magnetic isn't bad, but it feels kinda forced, without this ingenious spark. As if they cleverly manufactured every song on the album. It is their best album in 20 years and I hope that the next one will be even better. Hopefully I won't be disappointed.
Overall, late '90s and early '00s were quite bad for metal as a genre overall, but it seems to be getting more popular again and even the legends that failed in the past years to create good albums are back on track
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Solo said:
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BattleMonkey
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Awesome, I enjoyed their last new album.
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Personally I see it as BNW >> DoD > AMoLaD
The problem with DoD is that songs like Montsegur just drag on. It isn't a bad song and it's only 5 minutes but the chorus still manages to be repetitive as shit.
The problem with DoD is that songs like Montsegur just drag on. It isn't a bad song and it's only 5 minutes but the chorus still manages to be repetitive as shit.
Combichristoffersen said:
you're crazy man, crazy, Piece of Mind is ace, Where Eagles Dare, Revelations, Flight of Icarus, Die With Your Boots On, The Trooper, Still Life, and To Tame a Land are all grade A stuff, the first real Maiden stinker is however on this album with the abysmal Quest for Fire, but a lot of quality material makes it easy to overlook 1 bad song, even Sun and Steel is pretty good for filler
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yacobod said:
Stupid Quest for Fire is the only smudge on that album. God that song is dumb. :lol
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CassSept said:Overall, late '90s and early '00s were quite bad for metal as a genre overall, but it seems to be getting more popular again and even the legends that failed in the past years to create good albums are back on track
The only one of my old fave metal bands that aren't getting anywhere near back on track is Helloween. They went a bit poop when Kai Hansen left, did two more decent albums with Kiske, turned into Derisween and released Master of the Rings, Time of the Oath and Better than Raw, who were all decent, and then completely went to shit with Metal Jukebox and everything released since then
TheLastCandle said:
The lyrics are dumb as shit, but the song is otherwise decent enough. Sun and Steel is far worse, yuck.
I get what your saying and I also think that some songs need a bit of editing but that don't make the songs bad just less excellent :lolSolo said:
And I don't think taking Harris out of half the songs gonna help improve the songs, after all the best songs since the reunion are Smith/Harris/Dickinson.
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Combichristoffersen said:The only one of my old fave metal bands that aren't getting anywhere near back on track is Helloween. They went a bit poop when Kai Hansen left, did two more decent albums with Kiske, turned into Derisween and released Master of the Rings, Time of the Oath and Better than Raw, who were all decent, and then completely went to shit with Metal Jukebox and everything released since then
The lyrics are dumb as shit, but the song is otherwise decent enough. Sun and Steel is far worse, yuck.
I rather like Sun and Steel.
And I like most of Helloween's material, including the newer stuff. I know a lot of Helloween fans aren't into Deris, but his work with the band has been very good overall. Rabbit was pretty crap, but Gambling with the Devil makes up for that. That album smokes.
Ah Virtual XI . It's the worst offender when talking about songs written for live performance. Most of the songs on that album are good if the choruses didn't drag on (Don't Talk to Strangers and Educated fool come to mind).TheLastCandle said:
It does have an amazing middle section and solos (I can tell In Flames love it). Sun and Steel is the worst.TheLastCandle said:
Solo said:
and Mr. Solo the repetitive nature of Harris songs was nowhere near as bad during the Golden era as it is on the newer material, Mr. Harris' epic song writing is so formulaic now, it's like they are put together on an assembly line, just listen to the title track on Dance of Death for example
even Brave New World is extremely repetitive, especially in the choruses
A Brave New World
In a brave new world
A Brave New World
In a brave new world
In a brave new world
A Brave New World
In a brave new world
A Brave New World
:lol i still like the song but its repetitive as fuck
see Paschendale for a good current Maiden epic, no suprise it was penned by Adrian Smith
I love Deris albums, I think they made a lot of amazing songs with him. He's a great song writer too.TheLastCandle said:I rather like Sun and Steel.
And I like most of Helloween's material, including the newer stuff. I know a lot of Helloween fans aren't into Deris, but his work with the band has been very good overall. Rabbit was pretty crap, but Gambling with the Devil makes up for that. That album smokes.
The way it reads on the Maiden site, the only new track they're playing on the tour is El Dorado. Makes sense given that the NA leg of the tour is before the album drops. And if that means more classic tracks, then Im all for it. Somewhere Back In Time in 2008 was fucking orgasmic.
If I get some Hallowed Be Thy Name, Rime Of The Ancient Mariner, and Stranger In A Strange Land, then they can play whatever else they want to.
If I get some Hallowed Be Thy Name, Rime Of The Ancient Mariner, and Stranger In A Strange Land, then they can play whatever else they want to.
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Solo said:
Hallowed.. is awesome. Still one of the best metal songs ever written.
And why oh why won't they ever play Deja Vu live, yet keep playing trash like Heaven Can Wait?
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Glad to hear they still want to make music but I'm not expecting much.
I'm glad I got to see them on the second leg of Somewhere Back in Time cause they played Children of the DamnedSolo said:
I fucking love that song.I really doubt they would ever play Stranger in a Strange Land again unless they're doing the whole Somewhere in Time album. The band said that it slows down the whole concert, that's why they dropped it from the Ed Hunter tour even after Adrian came back from his father's funeral.
I would love to hear Infinite Dreams live.
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Solo said:
That was one of the best shows, nay, the best things I've ever seen in my life. Good god, that setlist was just untouchable.
Solo said:
they've probably played Hallowed on every tour since NotB dropped in 83, so no worries there
songs you know they are going to play live on this tour are
Hallowed Be Thy Name
Run to the Hills
11:58
The Trooper
Iron Maiden
Number of the Beast
Fear of the Dark
beyond that hopefully they play some good material, the Somewhere in Time tour in 08 was indeed awesome, easily the best Maiden show i've been too, i've seen them on 3 or 4 different occasions
I'm glad they dropped Heaven Can Wait from the setlist on the second leg of Somewhere Back tour, they made room for much superior songs. But they also dropped RevelationsCombichristoffersen said:And why oh why won't they ever play Deja Vu live, yet keep playing trash like Heaven Can Wait?
Also another song I would kill to see live is 22 Acacia Avenue.
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Ashour said:I'm glad they dropped Heaven Can Wait from the setlist on the second leg of Somewhere Back tour, they made room for much superior songs. But they also dropped Revelations
Also another song I would kill to see live is 22 Acacia Avenue.
22 Acacia Avenue is great. Same goes for Revelations.
Oh, yeah, and Only the Good Die Young, now that would be nice live.
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Wow, I didn't know they dropped Revelations later on in the tour. I got to see it, I would have been immensely upset had I not been able to. That's easily one of my favorite Maiden tunes if not my favorite.
Here's hoping they play it again on the upcoming tour. A great live song.
Here's hoping they play it again on the upcoming tour. A great live song.
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yacobod said:
Now here's something we can agree upon. Judas be my Guide is indeed criminally underrated. Such a hidden gem.
Edit: Finally had the chance to listen to El Dorado now that I'm home from work. Eh.. not horribad, but pretty damn bland.
July 3rd, Molson Amphitheatre in Toronto This thread prompted me to listen to A Matter of Life and Death today at work for the first time since release, and after a proper listen my opinion is unchanged, the album is a piece of shit, it's easily the worst of the 3 reunion Maiden albums, i wasnt the biggest fan of Dance of Death, but at least it has a few good songs, but this album has no redeeming qualities at all, it's worse than No Prayer for the Dying, and is probably on par with the crap released in the Blayze Bailey era
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yacobod said:
I actually quite like the Blaze albums. I even have a copy of VXI signed by BALZE himself :lol
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=141208
El Dorado is streaming here, sorry if old
Pretty good track but not amazing
El Dorado is streaming here, sorry if old
Pretty good track but not amazing
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wRATH2x said:
Seems I'm the only one who actually likes Virtual XI :lol Heard his solo albums, BTW?
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Ashour said:
Tenth Dimension is a great album indeed (and Silicon Messiah was decent enough), but Blood & Belief was absolute toss. Boring ass music, and whiny emo lyrics. Fuck that shit. Haven't heard his latest two albums though.
Oh, and As Live as it Gets is possibly one of the most boring live recordings I've ever heard.
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Solo said:
Accident of Birth, Chemical Wedding and Tenth Dimension is a solid album trilogy. Skunkworks, on the other hand, is nothing but godawful. Balls to Picasso was meh, and Tattooed Millionaire was a fun, albeit cheesy, hard rock album. Have you seen that Aleister Crowley movie he released last year? :lol
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3rdman said:
Next door to Iron Maiden? What?
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Combichristoffersen said:
I haven't listened to any of Bruce's solo work. I assume I should start with Accident of Birth and Chemical Wedding?
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