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Regardless of your stance on the deceptive photos, it is a bit bothersome that the OP (obviously not intentionally) implies that fat women are not (single) people.
It can definitely be worded differently. Though I'd be upset too if I got deceptive photos of a person, because a big key to establishing get a relationship is mutual attraction.
 
Try it when you're ready

That might never happen. I'm one of those guys in a condition to where I'd need to be taken care of and I'm not comfortable placing that level of burden on one person (not to mention how unequalized it would make the relationship).

Oh, and just finding someone willing to continue past the first date knowing all this information would be a nightmare. And I'm gay, which severely reduces the dating pool.
 
This reminds me of how I how I was in a class with like 13 girls and I was the only guy. We were doing some activity where we talked about aspects of our lives we felt were great and others that weren't. Every single girl there felt the need to mention their boyfriend. They all had one. Wtf. And it's as if they sensed that I was attracted to some of them and so they decided to shut me down. Literally every girl I've ever asked out has had a boyfriend so I know the feeling. Or when I finally get a girl, she cheats on me. I feel like finding a relationship is at least 50% luck.
 
So I wouldn't want to date a girl that is very overweight - what's the problem with that? All that posting a misrepresentative photo does is lure me out for a first date and waste both of our time. I don't see why you're advocating for that.

Why do you argue your point ad absurdum? Just because I want to know what someone actually looks like doesn't mean I want a mugshot or a photo of their belly. You're being ridiculous, but I guess that matches up well with your ridiculous notion of what a representative photo for a dating site is.

Cos y'all keep responding to me without giving me an example, so it's all up to my imagination. You seem so disgusted by the thought of being "tricked" by a nice photo of an overweight girl but can't give an example of what a good photo of them looks like (despite claiming it's oh so easy to do). All I can assume is that any photo an overweight girl takes of themself = deceptive to people like you because their belly ain't front and centre. D:
 
Cos y'all keep responding to me without giving me an example, so it's all up to my imagination. You seem so disgusted by the thought of being "tricked" by a nice photo of an overweight girl but can't give an example of what a good photo of them looks like (despite claiming it's oh so easy to do). All I can assume is that any photo an overweight girl takes of themself = deceptive to people like you because their belly ain't front and centre. D:

Wait, are you actually arguing that the Myspace angle doesn't exist?
 
Been Single for three years now and I hit 30 next year. I hope I run into more single gays around that time that want to settle. I admit I dont get out enough in various gay scenes mostly cause im pretty self conscious about my weight so yeah heh.
 
Wait, are you actually arguing that the Myspace angle doesn't exist?

No it exists, but I think it's a negative description of just taking a nicely photographed pose which basically says if a woman doesn't take a photo showing her weight front and centre she's basically trying to trick and deceive you. I mean it's basically saying "all overweight women are desperate so they pose to look less overweight and trick men into dates."

Everyone poses in photos to show off what they consider to be their "good side" to seem attractive, but it's only overweight girls that seemingly get called out on it.
 
I have been single for practically my whole life. I don't consider my teenage relationship pre 16 an actual relationship.
 
It's a way to take a picture that disguises your fat body. If you then go out on a date with this girl, you then see her fat body and have to choose between walking away before she notices, or spending a couple of hours talking to someone you're not interested in at all.

Because I have a conscience, I end up dating them, and then explaining after that we weren't a good fit. Just fucks me off because I only have so much free time, I don't want to spend it with someone I have zero attraction to.

lol you shaming women for being "fat" is probably part of the reason you're single as well. you sound like a judgemental asshole over their body type. You should start using correct terms like 'overweight' when trying to talk about something you clearly have no interest in.

then again, this is GAF, I'm not surprised. this is a safe haven for people like you.
 
I mean, this is GAF, so a lot of us are going to be single of course.

But yeah I'm single and I've always been. I can't imagine myself in a relationship, I'm just too much of a weirdo.
 
I mean, this is GAF, so a lot of us are going to be single of course.

But yeah I'm single and I've always been. I can't imagine myself in a relationship, I'm just too much of a weirdo.

some women like the weird ones. embrace whatever it is that you think is "weird" and show confidence in yourself. they'll like that.
 
"Fat girl pose" is a little harsh, but I have noticed in the sea of misleading photos there is usually one body shot. I guess it's up to the viewer to decide if that is added with self awareness, or if the flattering angles are an accident.
 
I know most people look better in photos because they choose the most flattering ones to display. I know I do that.

But I have one friend who's photos aren't too good.... It makes him look kinda frumpy when he's actually a pretty darned handsome person in real life. Lol.
 
No it exists, but I think it's a negative description of just taking a nicely photographed pose which basically says if a woman doesn't take a photo showing her weight front and centre she's basically trying to trick and deceive you. I mean it's basically saying "all overweight women are desperate so they pose to look less overweight and trick men into dates."

Everyone poses in photos to show off what they consider to be their "good side" to seem attractive, but it's only overweight girls that seemingly get called out on it.

Yah, except if someone is not attracted to overweight people and you only take photos that intentionally hide your real size, you're 100% guaranteed to lose their interest when they see what you actually look like. It benefits nobody. I think an honest, current, full body shot is a must for any dating profile, male or female, unless it's amply clear you're fit. This kind of also ties into the "it's ok for women to ask men how tall they are but not ok for men to ask women what they weigh" prior to a first date.

Wanting a partner to be physically fit and not overweight is not insensitive or harsh, it's a preference, and one that makes total sense. Overweight is going to be a deal breaker for most physically fit people.

Anyways, this thread is a minefield. But to address OP -- I know what you mean. Reaching my upper mid-20s now, and having come out of a long-term (3 years) relationship recently, I have found that the amount of single people I meet is far, far diminished. When I first got into my relationship I was in college with many, many single peeps all over the place. Now that I'm single again I'm in a completely new city, have relatively few friends, and have met very few people that aren't in a committed relationship. Every time I meet a new cute girl through work, friends, or out and about they are either engaged, married, our in a serious committed relationship.

Anyways, for this Tinder is useful. At least (for the most part), everyone on there is single. However, playing the "tinder game" can be tedious and annoying at times.
 
A rule you follow with online dating is that unless they have a full body shot you keep away. I can't tell you the countless of times I read a profile, was interested, but the picture front and center in the profile was a close up/angled one. So what am I supposed to do with that? If the profile has a "body type" section read that next and decide for yourself if you're too bothered by overweight individuals to go for it. Personally yes overweight for me bothers me so I can't go for it. They don't have to be athletic though as I'm not athletic either.

Another rule is that if their profile pic, or pics in general, are group pictures and you have no way of knowing who they are then don't risk it. The times I've gone for it in different times and situations it ended up being the less attractive individual in the group picture. That's not necessarily dishonest it simply isn't helping.

Put a full body picture of yourself at your best, put more pictures to go with the profile so they see you in different situations/with different looks and if they decide they find you attractive enough to respond to your message then at least you won't have doubts about their physical appearance and can move on to the important aspect.
 
Yah, except if someone is not attracted to overweight people and you only take photos that intentionally hide your real size, you're 100% guaranteed to lose their interest when they see what you actually look like. It benefits nobody. I think an honest, current, full body shot is a must for any dating profile, male or female, unless it's amply clear you're fit. This kind of also ties into the "it's ok for women to ask men how tall they are but not ok for men to ask women what they weigh" prior to a first date.

Wanting a partner to be physically fit and not overweight is not insensitive or harsh, it's a preference, and one that makes total sense. Overweight is going to be a deal breaker for most physically fit people.

Yeah but the problem here is this "intentionally hide your real size" bullshit mentality. If you're just in it for the body and nothing else, just use an app for fucking like Tinder or Grindr.

'Sides, I think asking someone their height before a date if they haven't explicitly defined it on their profile already is bullshit too.

All this thread has taught me is that online dating is what's really bullshit. Seems like no one's happy, real picky, and real horny (until travelling/money is involved).
 
I'm single, and also a recluse. I work nights and generally spend most of my time alone and very little time in public. Forever single I say.
 
Yeah but the problem here is this "intentionally hide your real size" bullshit mentality. If you're just in it for the body and nothing else, just use an app for fucking like Tinder or Grindr.

'Sides, I think asking someone their height before a date if they haven't explicitly defined it on their profile already is bullshit too.

All this thread has taught me is that online dating is what's really bullshit. Seems like no one's happy, real picky, and real horny (until travelling/money is involved).
Online dating is arguably more picky than real dating from what I've seen. The person can go through your pictures over and over again and get tired of you before you even have a chance to ask them out for coffee or something.

At least irl if it's like out of the blue you see them once. Ask them out, then you don't tend to see each other again until the date and at that point you can at least charm them with your personality if you aren't like an Abercrombie and Fitch model.
 
Yeah but the problem here is this "intentionally hide your real size" bullshit mentality. If you're just in it for the body and nothing else, just use an app for fucking like Tinder or Grindr.

'Sides, I think asking someone their height before a date if they haven't explicitly defined it on their profile already is bullshit too.

All this thread has taught me is that online dating is what's really bullshit. Seems like no one's happy, real picky, and real horny (until travelling/money is involved).

It's not about being "just in it for the body and nothing else". People can have standards. A big factor in any relationship is attraction and obesity is a factor that greatly reduces attraction to many. Nothing is wrong with taking pictures of you that represent you positively, but it should still present an honest picture of who you are. If you are taking pictures to hide your weight, you aren't doing that.
 
I did raise an eyebrow a bit at the description of the "fat girl pose" and so on. You don't have to be attracted or not attracted to anyone, and indeed you have little say in it -- but the tone/language felt insensitive. People from all walks of life read the forum, and if a girl or a woman is already insecure about herself or her body for whatever reason (which is quite easy given the pressure society puts on women to look and be a certain way -- ever watch a girl get ready to go somewhere? The hair and makeup process is a complex and multi tiered one with many layers and details. Imagine you had to spend one to two hours on that every single day. "first the foundation, then we this, then some cheek highlighter, the this, then eyeliner, then that, then finish with this, etc etc -- it's crazy! Meanwhile, dudes roll out of bed and leave the house and expect women to both look perfect and to swoon at them -- holy shit at this parenthetical), when she sees people summarily dismissing "fat girls" with that sort of tone it might just hurt a little -- compounding the feeling they already have, even though you aren't talking to or about them specifically.

Get rid of your videogame toys and anime collection to improve your chances.

Bullshit.
 
Online dating is arguably more picky than real dating from what I've seen. The person can go through your pictures over and over again and get tired of you before you even have a chance to ask them out for coffee or something.

At least irl if it's like out of the blue you see them once. Ask them out, then you don't tend to see each other again until the date and at that point you can at least charm them with your personality if you aren't like an Abercrombie and Fitch model.

The whole "dating as an online shopping experience" is freaking weird to me, honestly. I wonder about what the success rates for dating sites are that aren't marketing fluff, I think I'll google it and see if people actually get stuff out of it.

It's not about being "just in it for the body and nothing else". People can have standards. A big factor in any relationship is attraction and obesity is a factor that greatly reduces attraction to many. Nothing is wrong with taking pictures of you that represent you positively, but it should still present an honest picture of who you are. If you are taking pictures to hide your weight, you aren't doing that.

You're automatically attributing being overweight to being obese. Come on dude.
 
Get rid of your videogame toys and anime collection to improve your chances.

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Can't say my amiibos or collection of Ghibli movies ever had an impact on the women I bring home. But you can go ahead and ride your false sense of superiority to wherever it is you think you're going.
 
Cos y'all keep responding to me without giving me an example, so it's all up to my imagination. You seem so disgusted by the thought of being "tricked" by a nice photo of an overweight girl but can't give an example of what a good photo of them looks like (despite claiming it's oh so easy to do). All I can assume is that any photo an overweight girl takes of themself = deceptive to people like you because their belly ain't front and centre. D:

I'd find and post examples but I'm sure anyone else here who is interested is more than capable.

Also, just speaking personally, but I'd much rather a woman with some extra meat on her bones show me front and center. That way since I tend to like women with a bit of extra meat on their bones I can actually find them.

Added bonus: Their confidence in their body is pretty sexy, so there's that.

So yeah, the deceptive angle tends to hurt everyone and help nobody.
 
No it exists, but I think it's a negative description of just taking a nicely photographed pose which basically says if a woman doesn't take a photo showing her weight front and centre she's basically trying to trick and deceive you. I mean it's basically saying "all overweight women are desperate so they pose to look less overweight and trick men into dates."

Everyone poses in photos to show off what they consider to be their "good side" to seem attractive, but it's only overweight girls that seemingly get called out on it.

Nobody is saying all women are desperate so they pose to look less overweight. But a MySpace angle refers specifically to the way a picture is taken, so the overweight person doesn't look overweight, which is misleading. I've seen plenty of online dating pics of women with a bit of extra weight who had normal full body pictures. So when we went on the first date I knew what to expect.
 
The whole "dating as an online shopping experience" is freaking weird to me, honestly. I wonder about what the success rates for dating sites are that aren't marketing fluff, I think I'll google it and see if people actually get stuff out of it.



You're automatically attributing being overweight to being obese. Come on dude.

Please don't let semantics needlessly muddy things up.
 
I'd find and post examples but I'm sure anyone else here who is interested is more than capable.

Also, just speaking personally, but I'd much rather a woman with some extra meat on her bones show me front and center. That way since I tend to like women with a bit of extra meat on their bones I can actually find them.

Added bonus: Their confidence in their body is pretty sexy, so there's that.

So yeah, the deceptive angle tends to hurt everyone and help nobody.

Oh, I've been to that site before. I kind of doubt they're the kinds of photos people put up on a dating sites, though, unless most women stand I-shaped in their underwear on dating sites. Do they?

Anyway- my partner is a little overweight and she said that when she shares photos of herself online unless it's a desperately horny dude they always feel the need to point out that her belly juts out a bit or something stupid like that. She'll take a photo of herself that she feels looks nice in a typical selfie fashion and those same dudes will be wanting her to get her tits out or something, but then when she just takes a casual photo while out they might call her a "fat cow" or something similar. To me it just seems like dudes sometimes think with their dick too much.

The "fat girl pose" is probably really any pose an overweight girl pulls that they personally think looks cute that's not the classic bathroom mirror shot.

Nobody is saying all women are desperate so they pose to look less overweight. But a MySpace angle refers specifically to the way a picture is taken, so the overweight person doesn't look overweight, which is misleading. I've seen plenty of online dating pics of women with a bit of extra weight who had normal full body pictures. So when we went on the first date I knew what to expect.

Yeah, and I'd wager that that "so an overweight person doesn't look overweight" is the observation from the viewer and not necessarily the intent, likely born out of being confusedly turned on by a photo of an overweight girl or something. "How can this be?"

Please don't let semantics needlessly muddy things up.

It's not semantics. Not every overweight person is obese. That's, like, a fact.
 
some women like the weird ones. embrace whatever it is that you think is "weird" and show confidence in yourself. they'll like that.

I mean, I guess so. But I just feel like the odds that I'll meet someone who is actually attracted to me for some reason is really low. I'd have to constantly meet people and put myself out there and go through like, hundreds of rejections or something, I don't know how many. That's not something I really want to do since I'm pretty introverted and fine with being single forever. Also even if there is some woman out there who finds my traits attractive/endearing I just have trouble imagining that.
 
You are "well actually"ing my post. Okay, fine. I didn't use a word properly. Let's not dwell on it so that the whole point is just ignored.

You said "obesity is a factor" and that was basically half of your whole point, which was stupid. Don't do that.

Yeah attraction matters but if you're acting like all overweight people are obese... Goodness.
 
No it exists, but I think it's a negative description of just taking a nicely photographed pose which basically says if a woman doesn't take a photo showing her weight front and centre she's basically trying to trick and deceive you. I mean it's basically saying "all overweight women are desperate so they pose to look less overweight and trick men into dates."

Everyone poses in photos to show off what they consider to be their "good side" to seem attractive, but it's only overweight girls that seemingly get called out on it.

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http://www.officialdatingresource.com/beware-the-dreaded-myspace-angles-pics/

Overweight girls aren't the only people who get called out on it. Anyone who purposely uses weird angles that doesn't show the reality of what they look like are guilty of using the Myspace angle.

There's a huge difference between using a good picture of yourself as your profile pic and using a picture that you know doesn't reflect reality.
 
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http://www.officialdatingresource.com/beware-the-dreaded-myspace-angles-pics/

Overweight girls aren't the only people who get called out on it. Anyone who purposely uses weird angles that don't show the reality of what they look like are guilty of using the Myspace angle.

That article is disgusting, and not because of the photos used. I can't believe you'd use trash like that as a "source". Most of the examples are related to weight, and the others I guess for merely not having a perfect face.
 
That article is disgusting, and not because of the photos used. I can't believe you'd use trash like that as a "source". Most of the examples are related to weight, and the others I guess for merely not having a perfect face.

I was posting it for the pictures, those pictures are some of the most common "myspace" angle pictures posted on the internet. I didn't feel like uploading all of them to imgur. Would the trash have been better if I had just linked imgur? It gets the point across just the same.

Those pictures are pretty much the "meme" that started the whole Myspace angle term.

See my edit above, are you denying that that distinction exists?
 
I was posting it for the pictures, those pictures are some of the most common "myspace" angle pictures posted on the internet. I didn't feel like uploading all of them to imgur. Would the trash have been better if I had just linked imgur? It gets the point across just the same.

Those pictures are pretty much the "meme" that started the whole Myspace angle term.

See my edit above, are you denying that that distinction exists?

I don't care if they're the most common examples that started the Myspace Angles "meme", it's an awful article and I doubt it's the kind of photos you are seeing on dating sites. They're probably just pics girls would put on general social media for themself.
 
I don't care if they're the most common examples that started the Myspace Angles "meme", it's an awful article and I doubt it's the kind of photos you are seeing on dating sites. They're probably just pics girls would put on general social media for themself.

I get it, you're disgusted and you're a much better human being than me because of it.

I ask again.

"There's a huge difference between using a good picture of yourself as your profile pic and using a picture that you know doesn't reflect reality."

Are you telling me there's no distinction between the two? That no person has ever chosen a pic they know will make them seem completely different than what they actually look like in real life?

Because I know for a fact that people do this. Two women have been in my house today that do this on a daily basis on Facebook.
 
I get it, you're disgusted and you're a much better human being than me because of it.

I ask again.

"There's a huge difference between using a good picture of yourself as your profile pic and using a picture that you know doesn't reflect reality."

Are you telling me there's no distinction between the two? That no person has ever chosen a pic they know will make them seem completely different than what they actually look like in real life?

Because I know for a fact that people do this. Two women have been in my house today that do this on a daily basis on Facebook.

The fuck? Of course there's people who've wilfully deceived others with photos before. Is that every overweight woman on dating sites? No.

The thing about the photos in the example (the top example having a full photo that has been cropped (not shown in the article weirdly) and is usually passed around the net as an "example" when it's really just shaming overweight women).

And two women in your household actively take pictures for the purpose of deceiving others? You sure you're not just looking at it in a negative lens buddy?

Also, I think everyone else has abandoned thread now. So it's probably just us two. PM me if you want to continue, whether I respond or not? Who knows.

Are you intentionally not getting it? The point is misrepresenting what you look like in real life. If you are overweight or obese, but your pictures are intentionally staged or cropped to avoid revealing that, it's lying. And you'd have to be unbelievably un-self aware to put photos up that don't look like you.

And the text of the source is irrelevant. You asked for examples, you were given them. The whole conversation is about weight, so why is it a problem that the examples given are mostly about weight?

I could post a recent example I encountered, but I'm not going to put a real person on blast. Sorry? A quick Google search will reveal a ton of them, I'm sure.

A google image search for "myspace angle" results in basically the photos in the linked article, not a "ton of them". You don't think that's at all suss?

Heck most of those aren't misrepresenting what someone looks like at all. The bottom girl? Chubby upper arms and face. The girl with the muffintop? It's flat enough to not be seen from above, who cares? The ones about faces? They were just pulling a different face at the time. The Asian woman? That one is just petty, like the face ones involving makeup. That's getting into pickup artist levels of worry.
 
That article is disgusting, and not because of the photos used. I can't believe you'd use trash like that as a "source". Most of the examples are related to weight, and the others I guess for merely not having a perfect face.

Are you intentionally not getting it? The point is misrepresenting what you look like in real life. If you are overweight or obese, but your pictures are intentionally staged or cropped to avoid revealing that, it's lying. And you'd have to be unbelievably un-self aware to put photos up that don't look like you.

And the text of the source is irrelevant. You asked for examples, you were given them. The whole conversation is about weight, so why is it a problem that the examples given are mostly about weight?

I could post a recent example I encountered, but I'm not going to put a real person on blast. Sorry? A quick Google search will reveal a ton of them, I'm sure.
 
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