Is Crimson Clover the "hardest" shmup, or what other game would take that title?

VGEsoterica

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I've played a metric shit ton of shmups in my life. Too many probably. I buy basically anything new that looks fun just to support the genre (as its getting thinner and thinner as years go on) and I have a closet filled with arcade PCBs for the shmups I love the most.

But I don't think I have encountered a shmup that "gives me the business" as much as Crimson Clover does. This game just 100% has my number and refuses to let me get even CLOSE to a 1CC. Even with the original arcade board and my own custom made arcade stick it is just out for my blood and it always manages to bleed me dry.

But that doesn't mean I dont love the game...quite the contrary actually. The fact that I struggle to improve basically hooks me in as any good bullet hell shmup SHOULD make you fight for your progression. Well unless you play on Switch...game is NOT easy on a standard Switch controller...gotta have that arcade stick

But GAF....what is the hardest shmup? Totally a subjective question I know but I love hearing what game just totally destroyed you and laughed while it did it. Because your "hardest shmup ever" might be someone elses "easy 1CC" and vise versa

 

SF Kosmo

Banned
I still have nightmares about the later stages of the original Aleste/Power Strike on SMS. I get murked pretty quick in the second loop of arcade Fantasy Zone as well but I dunno if you're counting loops.
 
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VGEsoterica

Gold Member
I still have nightmares about the later stages of the original Aleste/Power Strike on SMS. I get murked pretty quick in the second loop of arcade Fantasy Zone as well but I dunno if you're counting loops.
oh if we are getting into SECOND LOOPS then the most difficult game could be a LOT of things lol
 

Holammer

Gold Member
Not a big fan of Crimzon Clover, only played it for some two hours. I prefer the older "boomer shooters" like R-type or Raiden where you don't navigate a maze of bullets.

Touhou 15 is the most difficult one I know. The series is already famously difficult as it is, but Zun (the creator of the series) wanted to spice it up and was inspired by IWBTG, so the game tries to kill the player constantly, but there are plenty of checkpoints & respawns are quick.
There's even a lore explanation/excuse behind the unfair difficulty.

 
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