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This sounds fantastic, what are you talking about?
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Is Dexter final season the WORST in TV history?
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This sounds fantastic, what are you talking about?
He has his limbs removed and his tongue cut out. He is then given robotic replacements.
CharminUltra
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No joke, I marathoned Dexter S1 and Breaking Bad S1 around the same time, and at the time I gave Dexter the edge. I just found the concept behind Dexter way more interesting. Then the end of season 2 is when the show started to lose its shine for me (Doakes really deserved better).
This show had so much potential
Rockandrollclown
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Gotta agree with this. The character Dexter was interesting, and at times he has had interesting foils, but holy shit everyone else in the show was so terrible. I only watched the first four seasons, I quit because typically any plot time dished out to Laguerta, Batista, Vince, Deb was just so dull. Its nice to have a good main character and all, but at some point you need your supporting cast to step up.
This. I'm sorry, but when Clyde Phillips was on board Dexter, the show was top notch. His work on the show was --- and still is --- something really special. Clyde Philips, MCH, Jennifer Carpenter, Julie Benz, Erik King, John Lithgow... that team delivered some brilliant television, and I'm not going to turn on them just because I didn't like the back-half of the series.
GAFs hatred of things is almost always overblown but dare I say it's actually justified here. I could not believe they had Hannah go to the hospital when she's a wanted criminal all over the news. I mean, she didn't even think about it. When I say I could not believe, I mean I really couldn't believe they did it. I had to pause my DVR and process what I just watched happen. Process that some writer actually thought this made any sense at all. A man who was paid, probably handsomely, and does this for a living, thought this was a good idea. Just incredible.
BrokenEchelon
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Only compared to everything else that happened I mean.
Good point. After the motivational speaker (Chase?) and Colin Hanks, he was a relatively decent foe. I thought Peter Weller was decent as well, but also completely wasted in the end.
This. At least Dexter is still entertaining.
Remember how the sideplots in Season 1 actually mattered? Remember when Batista was stabbed? When Tony Tucci was found on a table, bloodied and mutilated, and then brought back to health by the very person who put him there in the first place? How the scene in the blood-filled hotel room made you feel just as sick and uneasy as it did Dexter? And how Doakes' reaction broke that tension and suddenly made it hilarious, intentionally?!
IT WAS SO GOOD
IT WAS SO GOOD
Isn't that pretty much Dexter post season 2 in a nutshell? Awesome concepts, horribly executed with no foresight or care whatsoever?
What a bunch of god damn goons. I hope the people that fucked this show over (the writers) get fired and never work in the industry again.
The Super Bob
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I started watching the series on Netflix a couple of months ago, and I'm now half way through series 5. But so far it's been dull and a huge drop in quality compared to the first four series.
If it gets this bad I might just put it off for now and watcha couple of other things.
If it gets this bad I might just put it off for now and watcha couple of other things.
for the love of everything good in this world, stop now before it's too late
I need to go back and watch season 1 of Dexter. He was so much better in the beginning. For me the whole show was his lack of empathy and emotion, relying on the code to get him through life as a supposedly normal person. Even the killings... which were very cool, methodical, gratifying, were secondary to his characters lack of emotion.
Now he's I dont know what.
Is that the goal? To make him "normal"?
Now he's I dont know what.
Is that the goal? To make him "normal"?
Idk, I think I found Robert Patrick and "4D", "Audrey Pauley", and "Release" far more entertaining than any of "Dexter" S8. Granted they were both racing to the bottom.
evilromero
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The Shield is pure greatness. Nothing to dispute there.
The show always had its problems, but season 5 is when its redeeming qualities could not counter-act the suck. I can't take it when they set up a situation where its resolution defies all reason and logic. Quinn
Similar things had happened before, but I don't think it got any worse than that.
Season 9 of X-Files had that episode where Burt Reynolds was God, so it wasn't all bad.
suspects Dexter of murder, Quinn himself gets charged for that murder, Dexter doctors some test results so Quinn doesn't get charged, and so ... Quinn now likes Dexter, never to be bothered by the fact that he was sure Dexter was a murder an episode earlier? He somehow doesn't believe Dexter is the murderer now, because he did him a favor? We continue with 3 more seasons, and Quinn never looks at Dexter funny again, even though other suspicious things happen right in front of him? What about the murdered guy? Why was their blood on Quinn's shoe in the first place? LaGuerta just goes case closed, the season ends, and the reset button is pressed.
Similar things had happened before, but I don't think it got any worse than that.
Season 9 of X-Files had that episode where Burt Reynolds was God, so it wasn't all bad.
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Hmm, okay. That's more like Cyborg-Doakes, I was thinking he died and was rebuilt as a full-on robot. That would be the kind of dumb shit I can get behind.
edit: Oh, a question. How's Supernatural doing these days? I stopped watching shortly after S6 or S7 started. (
Shortly after the Leviathans were introduced
DangerStepp
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Season 5 was an absolute snoozefest until 8 episodes in and when it finally managed to do something, it ends. Just like that! Nothing happened-- nothing occurred in the lives of any of the characters to make a difference in the overall story. NOTHING.
The whole season could have not happened and it would not have mattered. You could literally skip right from season 4 to season 6 (although, I don't know why you would do that to yourself, either) and wouldn't miss a beat.
If you're ever in doubt as to whether you're wasting your time on a program you're watching then look out for this pitfall example. When a season happens...it should have impact on something. A main character needs to go, Deb needs to break her neck--THERE HAS TO BE A CHANGE OF SOME SORT.
RedNumberFive
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The Dexter writers stopped giving a fuck years ago. I'm convinced that they're running this show into the ground just to troll us.
moltonasty
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I stopped watching this season after the episode where Deb drives the car into the river. It just seemed so....out of character. I get it, she thinks she made a mistake killing _________ but to then go and try to kill _______? The cinematography too, has taken a massive dive compared to previous seasons. I really thought they would knock it out of the park for the final season, I mean the show was so fantastic early on. What a shame. At least we still have Breaking Bad! But not for long...
I like that. Too bad Lundy, arguably Dex's most worthy adversary, was killed off in some garbage, soap opera quality subplot. Argh.
Jest Chillin
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Where do you get that Dexter is supposed to be an evil serial killer who justifies his actions with the code? Everything from Season 1 sets him up to be a serial killer who follows the code to satiate his desire to kill in the best way possible. That's still unacceptable by standard society morals but I don't know about calling it evil per say. Even early on he doesn't kill wantonly, he kills at the beckoning of the urge.
In fact, the way the backstory is portrayed in the show, Dexter has only killed animals prior to Harry teaching him the code, but in teaching him the code, Harry had to tell Dexter that he WAS a psychopath and Dexter had to accept that. I think it sets up a story that could easily evolve into Dexter discovering that he was never a psychopath in the truest sense but instead buried his emotions and avoided even trying to connect with others in his devotion to the code. Of course none of this is ever truly said in the show so it's just a theory but the idea that Dexter HAS to be completely emotionless and uncaring throughout the whole series is a stretch to me.
Likewise, given the events that have happened over the course of the series,
Deb getting to a point where Dexter's reveal doesn't completely make her turn on him, I think, has a basis. Not only has she been a near victim of a serial killer but multiple people close to her have been as well. The idea that Dexter is a Serial Killers serial killer could break either way. With her either despising him or supporting him.
Hannah is different. Yes she's a wanted fugitive but she's not devoid of emotion. Nearly all of her killings have come from situations where she felt she was being victimized. She is capable of caring and of love. I don't find it hard to believe that she would take Harrison to the hospital at all. Now, hanging out in the lobby and filling out forms, including Harrisons full and real name.. that much is hard to believe. But that she would care enough for a child who was fairly seriously injured while in her care to take him to the hospital? What did you expect she would do in that situation? Let him bleed until he passed out or worse?
I think that's the direction they've been heading Post-Trinity. Even Pre-Trinity, Dexter was longing for some sense of normalcy. But yes, they've been trying to show him learning and unlocking more emotions ever since Rita was killed. I say more because if I'm not mistaken, he shows that he has some level of caring simply due to the fact that he doesn't want Deb killed.
Edited to add spoilers. What is the spoiler policy for this thread anyways? On the one hand, the discussion of whether this final season is bad is relevant to those who haven't seen the series and those who are still in earlier seasons in their viewing. On the other hand, it's hard to discuss how bad the final season is without posts filled with spoiler tags.
The Super Bob
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Think I'll leave it then. If it gets worse than it already is in series 5 then it is probably the right choice. Still need to get round to watching Battlestar Galactica and Firefly because I've heard nothing but good things about them.
BertramCooper
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Showtime is the best.
King Allant
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yup and they cancel the only good show(The Borgias) that hadn't suffer by their decision
CharminUltra
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Watch Firefly, then BSG. Firefly is really short but amazing IMO.
DangerStepp
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I just had an epiphany that this show uses killing as a solution to everything...for every single character.
Everyone in the show can kill for whatever reason and get away with it. It's an out for the writers and has been the whole time.
Solid show that, like all great shows, loses a little bit of edge by the end but they don't drag it out to the point of being ridiculous.
Everyone in the show can kill for whatever reason and get away with it. It's an out for the writers and has been the whole time.
Yeah, I can vouch for BSG.
Solid show that, like all great shows, loses a little bit of edge by the end but they don't drag it out to the point of being ridiculous.
The Super Bob
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Cheers, think I'll probably do that. Just watched the last episode of The Tudors anyway (which I really enjoyed) so need something to watch.
It really is amazing how shows cango from being brilliant to terrible so quickly.
I agree that the writers shot themselves in the foot by blowing their load early with the Doakes plot. But that's not even a valid excuse when you consider the fact that they had LaGuerta figure out it was Dexter that was the BHB. Why the fuck was that plot so casually thrown around las season and dismissed? Why wasn't that the final season plot line?
It's absolutely mind blowing that they had that second chance to revive the plot where everything is falling apart for Dexter, and he has to choose whether hurt an innocent and survive, or give up everything and turn himself in. Hell, as much as I hate Hannah, at least that plot line would have had more significance since Dexter believes Hannah and Argentina is the life he always hoped for. So if he had to choose between that life and killing an innocent person, it would have some weight. But nope. Let Deb kill LaGuerta, then shrug it off like it was no big deal (no investigation). The only impact is Deb does some drugs for a couple months, then gets magically better after trying to kill herself and Dexter.
It's absolutely mind blowing that they had that second chance to revive the plot where everything is falling apart for Dexter, and he has to choose whether hurt an innocent and survive, or give up everything and turn himself in. Hell, as much as I hate Hannah, at least that plot line would have had more significance since Dexter believes Hannah and Argentina is the life he always hoped for. So if he had to choose between that life and killing an innocent person, it would have some weight. But nope. Let Deb kill LaGuerta, then shrug it off like it was no big deal (no investigation). The only impact is Deb does some drugs for a couple months, then gets magically better after trying to kill herself and Dexter.
GodParticle
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They should have ended it sopranos style last season with deb deciding who to shoot, fade to black, then gunshot. The amount of bitching would have been glorious
Messofanego
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Which episode is the one where a beefy black guy says SURPRISE MOTHAFUCKA to Dexter? That's the only one I want to watch.
Season 1 Dexter would never had run up to Dr. Vogel after her throat was slashed, getting her blood all over him, and then crying and hugging her.
Dexter went after Rita knowing he could maintain a relationship with her for a long period and not have to have pointless, "icky" sex with her because he could just create an uncomfortable trigger of past abuse whenever she wanted to get freaky, and that she would blame herself. He was totally manipulating her to give the outside appearance of normality -something she was desperate for too, for her kids, and for any teachers or anyone else watching, because she was so afraid of her husband just walking back into her life should she leave a "man-gap" by being single.
Didn't know Showtime had this kind of reputation.
Now it makes sense though. Loved Dexter, but it really has become terrible.
I was litterally shaking my head at he home trainer scene, and that was before you guys pointed out he stuntman. Lol
Loved Weeds just as much, but couldn't keep watching it midway through he season where she got out of jail and moved with the family to Idontkowwhere.
Such a shame.
And Homeland... Yeah going straight down the shitter. :-/
#teamDebshotherselfinthehead
Now it makes sense though. Loved Dexter, but it really has become terrible.
I was litterally shaking my head at he home trainer scene, and that was before you guys pointed out he stuntman. Lol
Loved Weeds just as much, but couldn't keep watching it midway through he season where she got out of jail and moved with the family to Idontkowwhere.
Such a shame.
And Homeland... Yeah going straight down the shitter. :-/
Haha, that would have been great.
#teamDebshotherselfinthehead
I've said it before, but the only redeeming thing about Dexter post-Season 4 is this man:
Dexter ended with the season finale of S4 as far as I'm concerned. Everything afterwards is fan fiction.
Titus Pullo redeems everything.
Mind blown!
ConfusingJazz
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I want to watch this.
Rockandrollclown
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Supernatural S6 was the low point for the series, S7 was better, but I don't see it topping S5 ever. Still a fairly enjoyable show, Arrow has become the awesome CW action show now.
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