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Is Dragon Ball Z Super any good?

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Gohan factually did less shit in GT than he does in Super, yet somehow Super is accused of otherwise.

Is this actually legit though? All Gohan has done in Super so far is fight a Frieza crony and get
Piccolo killed.
I remember Gohan doing some stuff in the Baby and Shadow Dragon arcs.


Both treat him like shit though.
 
Yea not like toriyama put the fate of the world on the two boys or anything or made them the strongest fighter after mystic gohan and vegeta or had gohan think he could be stronger than them or put a big focus on them in the beginning of the buu saga...never relevant

I said one half of Gotenks is the most relevant thing he ever did.

As an individual wtf has he done besides follow Trunks around?
 
Haha, yeah... about that.

They teased him going to "train" so he can protect his family, but that never happened. After he saw the power of Goku and Vegeta with God Ki, he said lol nope. They can take care of our families just fine. I'll just go home and be a family man.

Super's remake of RoF had a subplot that indicated that Gohan would be back to training and ended with him asking Piccolo to train again. There was even a scene in the beginning of the Universe 6 tournament arc where it was shown he was training again.

However, during the current arc it was stated he has retired from martial arts and Future Trunks couldn't sense his former power within him. Unless the next arc changes things up and reveals that he has been hiding his training for some reason, it's the one big continuity mistake within Super itself.
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GT vs. Super the thread.
No that's every Dragon Ball thread that has nothing to do with comparing the 2.

I liked some of the Baby saga, I liked some of the evil Shenron's saga. GT had good ideas, but to me they were never executed as cool as they could be.
 

Super mainly focuses on the new characters and Future Trunks and some old characters from DB. The new characters are probably some of the best additions in Dragon Ball in a while.

Gohan does get a good send off and achieved his dream of being a scholar with a family instead of a being a fighting obsessed moron like Goku.
 
GT vs. Super the thread.
No that's every Dragon Ball thread that has nothing to do with comparing the 2.

I liked some of the Baby saga, I liked some of the evil Shenron's saga. GT had good ideas, but to me they were never executed as cool as they could be.
It's weird when you think about it because op never said anything about gt in hindsight lol. It basically started with a Yea! It's great better than Gt or no it sucks gt is better. Poor gt
 
This is the Dragonball Super Gohan.
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GT never did him dirty as badly as this. Which makes the GT counterpart superior.
 
Is this actually legit though? All Gohan has done in Super so far is fight a Frieza crony and get
Piccolo killed.
I remember Gohan doing some stuff in the Baby and Shadow Dragon arcs.

He gets one episode of focus in the Baby arc, noticing the possessed Goten and fighting him before getting possessed himself. Then, Baby in his body leads all possessed Saiyans to take on Vegeta in the next episode. There's also his big goodbye to Piccolo, which feels kind of odd considering their lack of interactions in GT up to that point.

Outside of that, all his later appearances were just him attempting to fight but losing to the villains without accomplishing anything. He even loses to Rildo in the Super 17 arc - and aside from that Rildo battle, it was always in group fighting scenes, alongside Trunks, Goten and Uub, never getting any actual focus or screentime.

In comparison, Super gave him main focus for 3 episodes of the RoF arc and he also had that one episode that introduced Baby Pan. Then he had general minor appearances in the BoGs and other episodes of the RoF arc and one episode in the Trunks arc, even if only to show him retired.

He does have less fighting scenes in Super so far, but other secondary characters have more (like Piccolo, who didn't get a single battle in GT). Super has also used Roshi as an actual serious character at times, while GT only had him as a joke. And Tenshinhan and Yamcha in GT were just mute background cameos while they at least appeared in some Super episodes (and Tenshinhan fought) before the current Trunks arc.
 
Pshh Gohan doesn't have the thirst and the talent for battle that Goku has.
He doesn't, thus why he should have gotten his shit together.


Talent for battle means pretty little in DB, raw power is generally more important - hence why Gohan was able to curbstomp Cell and Super Buu while Goku had no chance.
 
Uh that Goku fight isn't even on the same level as the Frieza beat down. Haha do you see Gohan's face in the Super picture. :|



He was always a nerd. At least in GT it looks like he still trained somewhat, Super Gohan looks like a toothpick compared to GT Gohan.
All of his appearances in GT involved him getting a beatdown. He got it from Vegeta, Baby Vegeta, Super 17, Syn Shenron, Omega Shenron and General Rildo's brief appearance and finally Goku. That's way worse than that one time in Super.

So I don't see why it's suddenly different when the villian specifically trained himself to torture people as much as possible without killing them.
 
I could not get past the 2nd episode. It had to be the worst first two episodes I have every watched from an anime. I hear the animation is pretty good and the fight scenes are as well, but I also heard that those are pretty rare.
 
I could not get past the 2nd episode. It had to be the worst first two episodes I have every watched from an anime. I hear the animation is pretty good and the fight scenes are as well, but I also heard that those are pretty rare.

I really envy you if that's the worst you've watched.
 
Well u see gohan has his family and work therefore anything else is irrelevant and goten with no passion whatsoever for it has to study to be a scholar

I'm watching the current episode now and it's hilarious that they both want to help. Which, yeah it's in their characters but for them to be written out earlier for whatever reason is just really irritating.
 
I could not get past the 2nd episode. It had to be the worst first two episodes I have every watched from an anime. I hear the animation is pretty good and the fight scenes are as well, but I also heard that those are pretty rare.

You heard wrong. The animation and fight scenes are terribly done.
 
No I'm just pointing out how stupid it was to keep both Gohan and even Goten out of the loop because reasons.
Gohan got the Yamcha treatment, knew he was useless so why bother telling him.

Goten got left out because no one wanted to hear Chi Chi's mouth.
 
I'm starting to think this current arc is one of the worse things Dragonball related.

It's bad.

literally the worst opinion i have ever heard

They deliberately didn't clue him in to what was happening until the most recent episode... 15 episodes later.

trunks didn't tell gohan because he didn't want to make gohan fight and leave his family. trunks realized what was important to gohan nowadays and decided to keep him out of it for the sake of gohan continuing to live a normal life

makes sense to me

His look in RoF was good.



Wish he kept it.

This is a better version of it despite it just being the XV character creator/a mod:

eh, the track suit is pretty lame imo
 
I'm watching the current episode now and it's hilarious that they both want to help. Which, yeah it's in their characters but for them to be written out earlier for whatever reason is just really irritating.
A simple "it's dangerous guys let me and Vegeta do this first but gohan take goten and trunks into the time chamber we'll perform the god ritual before we leave, if we die its up too you guys" would have gone a long way.
 
literally the worst opinion i have ever heard



trunks didn't tell gohan because he didn't want to make gohan fight and leave his family. trunks realized what was important to gohan nowadays and decided to keep him out of it for the sake of gohan continuing to live a normal life

makes sense to me



eh, the track suit is pretty lame imo

Regardless it was bad enough the writers didn't have Gohan ask why Trunks was even there. There's only so much suspension of disbelief I can take.

A simple "it's dangerous guys let me and Vegeta do this first but gohan take goten and trunks into the time chamber we'll perform the god ritual before we leave, if we die its up too you guys" would have gone a long way.

I agree.
 
Yet another Super thread that devolves into complaining about Gohan becoming a scholar although's what he's been built up to most of the series and finalized at the end of Z.

Super is just following what was established in Z which is why I don't hold that against it.
 
Regardless it was bad enough the writers didn't have Gohan ask why Trunks was even there. There's only so much suspension of disbelief I can take.



I agree.

yeah it is pretty lame that he never asked, but regardless i think it's fine that trunks didn't ask him to fight

just let gohan be the family man/scholar he wants to be lol
 
His look in RoF was good.



Wish he kept it.

This is a better version of it despite it just being the XV character creator/a mod:

Yeahhh as much as I despise RoF and how I HATE the stupid track suit... I was actually happy with the hair, at least it had a shape to it and not just a damn flat broom.


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but if Gohan kept this hair I wouldn't mind the rest of Super shitting on him so much. For outfits, Gohan's always been best with his Great Saiyaman outfit, or a loose fitting True Dad Gi
 
It would be fine to have Gohan as a scholar if they actually worked it into the plot and made him relevant. However, the way they're actually doing it is writing him out of the story and it diminishes him as a character.

At least make him an oracle-like character.
 
It would be fine to have Gohan as a scholar if they actually worked it into the plot and made him relevant. However, the way they're actually doing it is writing him out of the story and it diminishes him as a character.

At least make him an oracle-like character.
Even than too, the fact he's a scholar doesn't mean he has to be some weakling now either. Plenty of characters have non combat related dreams in shounen but they get shit done because they have too.
 
It would be fine to have Gohan as a scholar if they actually worked it into the plot and made him relevant. However, the way they're actually doing it is writing him out of the story and it diminishes him as a character.

At least make him an oracle-like character.

what do you mean an oracle like character?

what do you want him to do? he doesn't like to fight, and the whole show is pretty much about fighting. for knowledge purposes they have whis, beerus, supreme kai, bulma...all of whom are more related to the plot than gohan is currently.

a side story SoL manga focusing on gohan and his family is the most focus i feel like he should get unless he decides to become a fighter again.
 
It would be fine to have Gohan as a scholar if they actually worked it into the plot and made him relevant. However, the way they're actually doing it is writing him out of the story and it diminishes him as a character.

At least make him an oracle-like character.

That job's already taken by Bulma and by extension Mai. Goten's still a child, so there's no reason for him to be fighting, and Gohan has a family to take care of and is living his dream.

There's plenty of focus on other characters it just happens to not be on Gohan because he's moved on with his life.
 
Even than too, the fact he's a scholar doesn't mean he has to be some weakling now either. Plenty of characters have non combat related dreams in shounen but they get shit done because they have too.

Let's look at Leorio from Hunter x Hunter. Dude is studying to be a doctor but still has time to do Nen training. It's not impossible!
 
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