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[MiguelItUp]

I'm all for ignoring threads, though I do my best to never use that button, much like I prefer to not block/mute people.

I will say though, saying to ignore the bizarre obsession regardless if its trolling, an attempting to be funny, etc. potentially feels like a fire spreading and ignoring it expecting it to put itself out, lol. I'm all for all kinds of constructive discussion, but it's feeling less and less constructive these days to be quite honest, and it usually dilutes into name calling, mud slinging, etc.

Tu quoque mi sperma

Damn there is nothing worse than a dude hiding his intellectual shortcomings with this type of silly "im smarter than you" discourse.
You did not understand the joke, it is ok, but don't judge other when you are yourself painfully boring.

A lot of people love attempting to do that here, lmao.

 

[phant0m]

There's an endless amount of content

This is art on a reprint in a secret lair, which are special-themed sets you have to specifically buy. There are tons of different themes for SLs; Japanese horror, fallout, TMNT, Deadpool, 80s comics, all kinds of stuff. You would never get this card in a pack or deck.

Actually, excellent example of anti-woke Asmon chuds raging mad over something they'd never actually see unless they went looking for it.

 

[The_Observer]

Keep making woke slop threads please! I don't want to spend accidentally even a cent on civilization destroying bullshit insane crazy ideologies. Thanks!

 

[diffusionx]

The problem is there are many gamers who enjoy "woke", or a better term, progressive content. More power to them as well.

People should have the freedom to make whatever content they want, and others are free to enjoy said content. If it's too far left for your tastes then just ignore it. You're not forced to buy it.

Saying that, there are certain people who have taken over all forms of media with the aim of pushing their agenda and social engineering. This might sound like tin foil hat stuff, but it's been happening for a long time in plain sight. Look at the the Fabian Society in the UK as an example.

A lot of it is however innocent and not woke. I think that's the issue. The word is overused and has lost all meaning. So much so that people now roll their eyes at another "woke" claim and start to turn on the anti-woke crowd.

Thinking about it, that is actually a 4D chess move the Fabian Society would be proud of.......

I don't know what the Fabian society is.

Yes I agree that people have the freedom to buy whatever they want. But how would we know? Devs and game journalists are now burying the woke content in previews and reviews because they know it goes over like a lead balloon. Then when someone talks about it after they buy it, they're a stupid chud. We saw this with KCD2 for example.

This is a games discussion forum. Games have become part of the political battleground. I don't like it but it's true. Devs and journalists have said that games should be a vector for their left wing agitprop. I wish they didn't but they did. I maintain that developing a game and spending millions to spread left wing agitprop is not equivalent to talking about it, which is why this whole "anti woke is the same thing as woke" makes no sense. They said, I don't want to support left wing agitprop and I also want to know what games are doing it. I also think it's useful to actually discuss what woke is, not every game accused of woke slop is woke slop. A discussion forum seems like an appropriate place to discuss games but perhaps I am mistaken.

 

[Idleyes]

In coming Rant!!

I'm gonna say something that'll probably piss off some people in the American LGBTQ+ community: stop anchoring to the Civil Rights Movement. Not every civil-rights issue is identical.

A huge part of the issue was black people being prevented from building and maintaining economic, political, and social power in the first place. It wasn't about exclusion from existing institutions, it was active suppression of our ability to build our own. The voting rights act had a similar reason for its existence. Which many people could reasonably argue was not only an imperfect patch for a systemic problem, but may no longer be necessary in the way it once was, much like the debate surrounding affirmative action.

I'm not saying the LGBTQ+ community doesn't face discrimination. I'm saying the nature, history, and scale of the discrimination isn't directly comparable.

Build your own sports communities, gaming communities, and institutions. If society starts actively preventing you from building and sustaining those independently, then I'd have no issue with comparisons to the Civil Rights Movement.

Competition is healthy in every industry. Get out there and compete, but don't expect your competitors to hand you a seat at their table. What you should expect is for everyone to be held to the same standards under U.S. law, and for those laws not to be weaponized to suppress competition.

Similar to Gonzito, I'm tired of the lazy, poorly executed "representation" in games where the characters feel generic, don't fit the lore, add nothing meaningful to the story, and the game itself is lacking substantial amounts of game mechanics (looking at you Mixtape! fuck outta here with yo bitch ass). Most of it comes across less like creativity and more like corporate pandering. Honestly, if these communities made their own games instead of relying on studios to market to them, I'd probably support and buy them. At the end of the day, I'll play a good game.

For example I enjoyed Celeste (Trans leadership), Aerial Knight's Never Yield (Black developer) and even Coffee talk ( damn there worshipped in LGBTQ+ gaming space) albeit over a strong glass of scotch.


End Rant

 

[Kacho]

There are tons of different themes for SLs; Japanese horror, fallout, TMNT, Deadpool, 80s comics, all kinds of stuff.

Yep I'm aware. He specifically mentions the Godzilla collab in the video at 14:30 and states he isn't a fan.

chuds

 

[Hadji*]

Who cares, Good games will make themselves heard even with zero marketing, Woke slop on the other hand, Saves us time and money.

 

[IDKFA]

I don't know what the Fabian society is.

From Google, which is just an easy way to explain them;

The Fabian Society is Britain's oldest political think tank, established in 1884 to promote democratic socialism and social justice through gradual, reformist efforts rather than revolution. It is constitutionally affiliated with the Labour Party and remains a major force in shaping left-wing public policy in the UK.

Fabian Society - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Their old crest used to be a wolf in sheep clothing. Very much on the nose with that one. They know a revolution would fail, so they'll make changes to society in small gradual steps so the majority don't notice.

Yes I agree that people have the freedom to buy whatever they want. But how would we know? Devs and game journalists are now burying the woke content in previews and reviews because they know it goes over like a lead balloon. Then when someone talks about it after they buy it, they're a stupid chud. We saw this with KCD2 for example.

Don't buy on release. Wait for people who've played the game to inform you if the content is right for you.

This is a games discussion forum. Games have become part of the political battleground. I don't like it but it's true.

Isn't just. That's why I mentioned the Fabian Society. The idea is social engineering one small step at a time. Now, of course this isn't always the case, but some of it is so obvious (Baby Inc)

Devs and journalists have said that games should be a vector for their left wing agitprop. I wish they didn't but they did. I maintain that developing a game and spending millions to spread left wing agitprop is not equivalent to talking about it, which is why this whole "anti woke is the same thing as woke" makes no sense. They said, I don't want to support left wing agitprop and I also want to know what games are doing it. I also think it's useful to actually discuss what woke is, not every game accused of woke slop is woke slop. A discussion forum seems like an appropriate place to discuss games but perhaps I am mistaken.

I agree with this.

 

[playbignbox]

No, a better solution is for these companies to stop producing woke slop games

 

[OLED_Gamer]

If you don't like it, don't click on it?

Only thing louder than the "woke" are the anti-woke… and vegans… and crossfitters.

 

[The_Observer]

From Google, which is just an easy way to explain them;

The Fabian Society is Britain's oldest political think tank, established in 1884 to promote democratic socialism and social justice through gradual, reformist efforts rather than revolution. It is constitutionally affiliated with the Labour Party and remains a major force in shaping left-wing public policy in the UK.

Fabian Society - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Their old crest used to be a wolf in sheep clothing. Very much on the nose with that one. They know a revolution would fail, so they'll make changes to society in small gradual steps so the majority don't notice.



Don't buy on release. Wait for people who've played the game to inform you if the content is right for you.



Isn't just. That's why I mentioned the Fabian Society. The idea is social engineering one small step at a time. Now, of course this isn't always the case, but some of it is so obvious (Baby Inc)



I agree with this.

I remember reading something about Orwell's relation to the Fabian Society and that basically 1984 was based on their ideas.

 

[phant0m]

I also think it's useful to actually discuss what woke is, not every game accused of woke slop is woke slop.

I think this is the key. The anti-anti-woke (?) response comes largely from people using 'woke slop' to dismiss anything they don't like.

 

[IDKFA]

I remember reading something about Orwell's relation to the Fabian Society and that basically 1984 was based on their ideas.

Correct. AFAIK, he moved in the exact same British socialist intellectual circles as the Fabians in the mid 1900s, and 1984 was largely written as a scathing warning about where he thought that specific group of elite, middle class, far-left intellectuals was going to take the world.

They have changed since then, at least that's what they want people to think anyway.

 

[LakeOf9]

It's time to stop this bullshit, every single major game in the last two months has been woke slop judging by NeoGAF. I thought the point was to enjoy games without worrying about the politics and shit, and yet ya'all do that more than anyone else these days

Give it up and play the fucking games.

 

[xanaum]

Nope.

We need this, man. We beat woke slop by exposing woke slop. That whole 'you can't talk about this' darkness is exactly how we ended up in this massive pile of shit.

 

[The_Observer]

Correct. AFAIK, he moved in the exact same British socialist intellectual circles as the Fabians in the mid 1900s, and 1984 was largely written as a scathing warning about where he thought that specific group of elite, middle class, far-left intellectuals was going to take the world.

They have changed since then, at least that's what they want people to think anyway.

Haha, day by day 1984 is more real but unfortunately yeah, the wolf is really succesful in hiding among the sheep.

 

[Boo Who?]

I'm deadly serious here.

There are too much agenda-driven showcases that push certain titles just because they're made by groups that are somewhat still marked as "marginalized".

In the meantime, AA and indie titles made by developers that don't fall under these categories will probably be pushed aside.

 

[KenaiPhoenix]

If they still force us to 'diversity lead game project' block in out events, if they still force theri woke crap into our games, then it is not only our right but our moral duty to make 'Is this woke slop?' threads.

 

[Boss Mog]

If they can have shit for women, lgbt, black, etc.. we should at least get to do "woke slop" shit.

 

[recursive]

but then why do you not do this for the screwdriver if you're sick of it?

I get that you might not like some content like Christopher Nolan's Odyssey but often it isn't about the product and more kicking up a fuss about political views outside of content. That's the whole point of Guardian Monkeys post. Don't buy the rainbow coloured screwdriver because it isn't to your taste but why do some care if the manufacturer donated to BLM for example but makes a regular screwdriver? What does that change about the game or the regular red screwdriver they might have sold you? There is no excusing that behaviour where we try to seek some stupid political divide outside of the actual product. You don't do that for other things.

What do personal opinions about screwdrivers have to do with gaming opinions? This sounds like gatekeeping to me. You are teetering into purple forum territory.

 

[phant0m]

If they can have shit for women, lgbt, black, etc.. we should at least get to do "woke slop" shit.

Did you really just say "if video games can have women, gay people or blacks, then we can cry about it?"

 

[Zannegan]

Eh, I have more issues with misusing/conflating the terms than I do overusing them. Woke is one thing; slop is another. The two may coincide, but by using them together for every instance of one or the other kind of makes the terms lose their power. For example: Saros' story seems pretty woke at the end (haven't played it myself) but it's hard to call something that crafted "slop," IMO.

To that end, let's judge the threadmakers based on the quality of their information instead of the format of the thread title. If someone posts the eleventh "woke slop" thread of the day, but they're calling something out with good evidence, why is it an issue? And vice-versa. By and large, the industry has a certain lens that tends to shape its perspective, if not an agenda, so discussing it seems as legitimate and productive to me as conversations about other recurring elements of games like graphics, gameplay, artstyle, or story tropes.

TBH, I thought most of those threads were semi-satire anyway.

 

[DarkShadowXI]

or just have one mega thread to put all woke slop commentary in, we really don't need a new thread every time a game is about to come out and/or a trailer releases -_-

Yes. This please.

I offered GAF Gold a couple times for someone to make an OT lol

It's cluttering up the forum and has gotten out of hand with every game release. It's making me feel like I'm browsing Reddit or the other forum. I come here to get away from that stuff. I'm this close to going back to the 1 or 2 gaming magazines we have left for gaming news.

Keep discussing it, by all means, but a megathread would be helpful. We also need a spot to point someone if they keep derailing an OT with commentary.

 

[JayK47]

As I said in another thread, lets just assume all new games are woke and instead let me know if it isn't.

 

[laynelane]

I'm all for ignoring threads, though I do my best to never use that button, much like I prefer to not block/mute people.

I will say though, saying to ignore the bizarre obsession regardless if its trolling, an attempting to be funny, etc. potentially feels like a fire spreading and ignoring it expecting it to put itself out, lol. I'm all for all kinds of constructive discussion, but it's feeling less and less constructive these days to be quite honest, and it usually dilutes into name calling, mud slinging, etc.


A lot of people love attempting to do that here, lmao.

I also don't ignore threads or users - finding it simpler not to read or skim if there is something I don't like. What I also don't do is go into threads where people are talking about something and tell them to stop or tell them to create a single space for the topic they're interested in. 'Live and let live' isn't really that hard and neither is using the tools available to filter out what you don't like. Choosing not to use them - because this "bizarre obsession" feels like an out of control fire to you - is your choice to make. However, there's still no valid reason to put that on others.

 

[Zannegan]

Yes. This please.

I offered GAF Gold a couple times for someone to make an OT lol

It's cluttering up the forum and has gotten out of hand with every game release. It's making me feel like I'm browsing Reddit or the other forum. I come here to get away from that stuff. I'm this close to going back to the 1 or 2 gaming magazines we have left for gaming news.

Keep discussing it, by all means, but a megathread would be helpful. We also need a spot to point someone if they keep derailing an OT with commentary.

Megathreads are great in theory but never seem work in practice. Outside of brief events/reaction spaces, megathreads generally dilute and then suffocate discussion. A "woke slop" megathread or community board would just be a slower way of killing of the discussion altogether (which, let's be honest, is generally the preference of anyone proposing a megathread).

 

[Three]

Nonsensical generalisation.
There is a big difference between an official choice to work with a certain entity and the private life of some employee. What kind of ridiculous strawman arguments are dug out by some people doesn't matter.

But I've seen people dig up the private life of actors outside of a game. It's not nonsensical when that is what I'm referring to. The idea that people find that stuff important when looking for products. Where it has nothing to do with the product.

No.
Reductio ad absurdum.

Not sure I see how it is.

See, suddenly the behaviour of the manufacturer matters to you after all, regardless of the product, despite you claiming otherwise a few posts back. And that is because the actions in question are higher on your priority list.
And that's what it comes down to, priorities.
The "what harm is done" in this case is a very different discussion that shouldn't be held here

Yes? That's the entire point. I was saying exactly that, I consider this priority absurd to begin with. When I go to buy a screwdriver, like most people, I don't care to dig up whether it is a "woke" screwdriver by trying to dig up whether somebody on the assembly line who made it was lesbian or donating to BLM. That shit is very low priority on my priority list when buying a screwdriver and it is for most people. When I go to DIY forums or discuss tools with friends I don't expect that to be the talking point, they're no searching up for that needless shit either but it seems to be with gaming here. I find that priority to be absurd to begin with. That's the point. No harm is done with those things either unless it's something else you're exaggerating.

LGBT mafia is causing massive harm to children's minds, and those fuckers support experimental hormone therapies and sex change operations on minors. No to mention all the grooming and sexual exploitation.

It's even worse than beating puppies.

That stuff doesn't come from a haircut in a game though that people complain about. They're not going to cut off their dicks if the scanned face of an actor wasn't good looking enough for you, or the fact that the in game character wore a tracker vest. Donating to ACLU isn't going to do that either. People have lost the plot.
Sure if some game or person was pushing hormone therapy stuff to children or something I'd agree with you but people complain about daft shit instead. These exaggerations of killing puppies or your own examples of harm don't apply to what I'm referring to and is not what is generally happening. If anything you trying to politicise these mundane things like the haircut of a lizard, some previously unknown workers sexuality, things that aren't at all important to the game itself creates a streisand effect for kids being exposed to what you don't want. You make the games about that more than the game itself in the situation I'm referring to. Where the game has none of that but you continously talk about the political/LGBTQ stuff outside of it. Imagine some kid coming to this forum and thats the stuff they read day in day out about games. It's become ridiculous.

 

[Griffon]

OP made a confusing title, body and poll (seriously "wellll"?), therefore the answers are completely out of whack.

Useless poll.

 

[Three]

What do personal opinions about screwdrivers have to do with gaming opinions? This sounds like gatekeeping to me. You are teetering into purple forum territory.

I'm confused what you mean, what the hell am I gatekeeping? somebody else said why do people make everything political about games but not stuff outside of gaming. Like you normally wouldn't care when you buy that stuff, you normally just judge the product don't you. Then that is where the conversation began.

 

[Bernardougf]

I think this is the key. The anti-anti-woke (?) response comes largely from people using 'woke slop' to dismiss anything they don't like.

True but woke ideology has been pushed so much down everyone throats for so long that for many people a lot of what was woke before is "normal" now, they became desensitized, afterall we had at least 11 years of this bullshit movement, so again for many to be woke probably the game would have to be full of trans shooting pride flags to kill only white man.

So when sony announces the next ugly lesbian female led game full of ideology texts or subtexts (like Saros) well those people will see and think "okay this seems par for the course nothing wrong" but to a lot of people is one more woke slop with better makeup to try and hide.

So yes there are crazys who see woke in everything i agree but unfortunately there are gamers that now just dont care anymore as long as is not something they consider ridiculously egregious. They were beaten and gave up. Thats the reality even if they didnt notice.

 

[Dr.Morris79]

Give it up and play the fucking games.

 

[HRK69]

How about a woke sub-forum

 

[I wasn't selling any]

In a perfect world, I would visit a Steam Store page of a game, and on the right side, where all the other info about the game is gathered, I see a "DEI Matrix" with something among the lines (sorry, AI assisted slop):

#	Checkpoint	Description	Score (0–3)
1	LGBTQ+ Representation	Presence of gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender, or non-binary characters and/or romance options	0 ☐ 1 ☐ 2 ☐ 3 ☐
2	Ethnic / Racial Diversity	Cast includes characters of varied ethnic backgrounds in meaningful roles	0 ☐ 1 ☐ 2 ☐ 3 ☐
3	Character Design De-sexualization	Reduced or removed sexual emphasis in character appearance compared to genre norms	0 ☐ 1 ☐ 2 ☐ 3 ☐
4	Social Justice Narratives	Storylines explicitly addressing racism, sexism, inequality, or political activism	0 ☐ 1 ☐ 2 ☐ 3 ☐
5	Pronoun / Gender Identity Options	Ability to select pronouns, play as non-binary, or presence of gender identity themes	0 ☐ 1 ☐ 2 ☐ 3 ☐

Where I can easily read if a certain game is a woke slop or not, or whether I can tolerate it's DEI score or rather not. When implemented, nobody should feel betrayed and can feel happy with their purchase. A perfect solution.

 

[rkofan87]

In the meantime, AA and indie titles made by developers that don't fall under these categories will probably be pushed aside.

the guy who does Black voices and gaming also does the mix which is at Summer Games Fest it's a great AA event

 

[Lokaum D+]

or just have one mega thread to put all woke slop commentary in, we really don't need a new thread every time a game is about to come out and/or a trailer releases -_-

Yes we do

 

[Prodyhig]

In a perfect world, I would visit a Steam Store page of a game, and on the right side, where all the other info about the game is gathered, I see a "DEI Matrix" with something among the lines (sorry, AI assisted slop):

#	Checkpoint	Description	Score (0–3)
1	LGBTQ+ Representation	Presence of gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender, or non-binary characters and/or romance options	0 ☐ 1 ☐ 2 ☐ 3 ☐
2	Ethnic / Racial Diversity	Cast includes characters of varied ethnic backgrounds in meaningful roles	0 ☐ 1 ☐ 2 ☐ 3 ☐
3	Character Design De-sexualization	Reduced or removed sexual emphasis in character appearance compared to genre norms	0 ☐ 1 ☐ 2 ☐ 3 ☐
4	Social Justice Narratives	Storylines explicitly addressing racism, sexism, inequality, or political activism	0 ☐ 1 ☐ 2 ☐ 3 ☐
5	Pronoun / Gender Identity Options	Ability to select pronouns, play as non-binary, or presence of gender identity themes	0 ☐ 1 ☐ 2 ☐ 3 ☐

Where I can easily read if a certain game is a woke slop or not, or whether I can tolerate it's DEI score or rather not. When implemented, nobody should feel betrayed and can feel happy with their purchase. A perfect solution.

But isn't that like cheating at solitaire?

If I'm against "woke" or "dei" policies, I shouldn't support anything.

Because if I support even one of the policies on your list, I'm not doing anything to reverse the situation.

This is like those who call themselves eco-friendly, recycling their packaging but then driving cars with high-powered combustion engines that pollute.

Hypocrisy everywhere.

 

[mckmas8808]

I love how cuckish some here are that gaming events happen for people that aren't yourself and that makes people upset. As if events for certain people is harmful.

 

[mckmas8808]

Yes we do

No we don't.

 

[playbignbox]

I love how cuckish some here are that gaming events happen for people that aren't yourself and that makes people upset. As if events for certain people is harmful.

So you like woke slop?

 

[Guardian Monkey]

So you like woke slop?

Is that a Splatoon avatar?

 

[Arachnid]

No we don't.

Yes we do.

 

[Paltheos]

I came into this thread thinking, very briefly, that this might be a topic asking people who complain about wokeness all the time to go to timeout for a bit. Hilariously naive. Fucking hell.

Forget woke slop. On GAF, this is engagement slop.

 

[PeteBull]

After enough woke flops devs gonna be forced to learn and if not stop it completely then at the very least pull it back substantially, there is a reason marathon dropped pronouns, it wouldnt if game would sell great/made tons of cash, we just gotta keep doing our job properly as core gamers aka vote with our wallet and call out/warn fellow bros what those games contain/push, its not like we can rely on sellout journos to do it unfortunately so its up to gaming community.

 

[Idleyes]

I love how cuckish some here are that gaming events happen for people that aren't yourself and that makes people upset. As if events for certain people is harmful.

Ain't nothing wrong with taking opportunities inside the system. If people can network, get exposure, build connections, and make money, cool. Use every door they open. But let's not confuse being invited into somebody else's building with owning the building. These corporations will help you right up to the point where you become competition.

 

[Gonzito]

I came into this thread thinking, very briefly, that this might be a topic asking people who complain about wokeness all the time to go to timeout for a bit. Hilariously naive. Fucking hell.

Forget woke slop. On GAF, this is engagement slop.

Okay now pull a Bharv and do 10 push ups

 

[NickFire]

I love how cuckish some here are that gaming events happen for people that aren't yourself and that makes people upset. As if events for certain people is harmful.

Actually my friend - what about when games are made for certain people, cost a ton of money to make, flop hard, and then the cost of PS+ goes up for everyone soon after with suspect as hell reasoning?

 

[Guardian Monkey]

After enough woke flops devs gonna be forced to learn and if not stop it completely then at the very least pull it back substantially, there is a reason marathon dropped pronouns, it wouldnt if game would sell great/made tons of cash, we just gotta keep doing our job properly as core gamers aka vote with our wallet and call out/warn fellow bros what those games contain/push, its not like we can rely on sellout journos to do it unfortunately so its up to gaming community.

But who cares is the point, if they have pronouns or not. That's what I don't get. I don't know these people, you don't know these people. This is a site about videogames, people here ranting about they, them, xur, or whatever the fuck else. Who cares.

 

[PeteBull]

Make one giant thread and keep it in there. Stop infesting the forum with the nonsense otherwise. Its gotten to the point where literally

women = woke
non straight hair = woke
anybody non white or Asian = woke
a single non straight character = woke
any woman that doesn't look like prime Megan Fox = woke

its literally this now

and its time to keep all this blatant fuckery in one thread

U dont like to live in reality, thats ur choice, most males not only like but have no other choice to live in it tho, so nope, we wont be changing our woldview to some delulu bubble which cant even tell us what is a woman, there is rainbow forum for that, and nowadays even reddit, lets keep gaf last bastion of logics and sanity instead xD

 

[Guardian Monkey]

U dont like to live in reality, thats ur choice, most males not only like but have no other choice to live in it tho, so nope, we wont be changing our woldview to some delulu bubble which cant even tell us what is a woman, there is rainbow forum for that, and nowadays even reddit, lets keep gaf last bastion of logics and sanity instead xD

Your confusing the freedom to talk versus saying whatever the hell you want.

 

[PeteBull]

But who cares is the point, if they have pronouns or not. That's what I don't get. I don't know these people, you don't know these people. This is a site about videogames, people here ranting about they, them, xur, or whatever the fuck else. Who cares.

Pronouns is just a symptom, token wokeness if u will, and ultimately i dont care too much about it, they wont make good game bad, and they wont make bad game good, but it shows us( community) whats the culture at that particular dev studio/publisher.
For example myself as a vivid witcher series lover if i see pronouns in cdpr next trailer im already on guard wondering how bad its gonna be, and i defo will be very careful buying that game, defo no preorder, defo not at launch and only after i am 100% sure its just "token wokeness" not actual wokeness.

It directly and heavily impacts my fun from playing the game, to a point some of the games become unplayable even tho i loved and fanatically played their previous entries(to not look far tlou2, ac shadows, veilguard, bf5, saints row reboot, just of the top of my head).