Tallshortman
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br0ken_shad0w said:
You mean the old EA store? How is that relevant to Origin? By that same logic you wouldn't use Steam either because it was complete bloatware when it first came out.
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You mean the old EA store? How is that relevant to Origin? By that same logic you wouldn't use Steam either because it was complete bloatware when it first came out.
lastplayed
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3chopl0x said:
Yeah since the AUD is worth more than the USD, that makes it especially bad. Poor buggers.
Salacious Crumb
Junior Member
confused said:
Not that it's much better on steam at the moment anyway, for new games it's either import or get someone on gaf to gift it to me.
pieatorium
Member
Steam isn't the problem, but EA and other publishers definately are they set the prices.confused said:
Salacious Crumb
Junior Member
confused said:
No, not every game is like that, RO2 is the same price as it is in the US on Steam, as are Valve games. The price is set by the publisher, not Valve, in this case it's always the publishers fault.
Can you gift games on Origin? If you can I wouldn't care.
confused said:
Haha never thought I'd see an EA loyalist, it's not EAs fault it's the countries economy!
confused said:
That doesn't make it right, our dollar is above parity with the USD so why are we paying twice as much for games at retail or DD? it's even worse on DD because there is literally no difference between selling a game to someone in the US.
Danne-Danger
Member
Oh the irony!Kintaro said:
That's RRP at retail for console games, even then I can get most new release PS3 games for $80 at retail. PC games are obviously cheaper than that.confused said:
For DD PC most publishers charge Aussies the same price as the US, which is fair since there are no added import or distribution fees like there would be at retail. Only a few publishers like EA or Take Two try to charge us double the price for the exact same thing that's sold for $50 in the US store.
3chopl0x said:
Same shit's been going on in Europe for years, and it has nothing to do with being a EA loyalist.
If a regular game is priced at $100 of course EA is also going to charge that same $100. In this case it isn't EA's fault, it's probably the retailer as they set the price.
Once again, if it's RRP for games, then it isn't EA's fault. It's the RRP for games.
The trouble I see with Origin is that it doesn't fit in with the current paradigm of how I do most of my PC gaming. EAs system is asking me to go through extra effort to get close to what I have already without it. For me their was IRC and chat programs, then after a break from social gaming xfire was around and Steam replaced xfire through quality(groups, group rooms, working more automatically). I was anti steam for awhile even. EA though is just making me sign up for a walled garden and manage another friends list that is less social. If both systems were aware to each others games/friends that would make it no biggie.
All the DD holders are making more work for me but EA wants me to jump through the most hoops to play. Setting up BC2 sucked and EA doesn't seem to do good at porting this shit game to game.
All the DD holders are making more work for me but EA wants me to jump through the most hoops to play. Setting up BC2 sucked and EA doesn't seem to do good at porting this shit game to game.
Salacious Crumb
Junior Member
confused said:
Those retail prices were set back when the AUD was way below parity with the USD. DD should be more dynamic than that. If our dollar plummeted to .60 USD I could understand, but as it is now our dollar is at 1.03 and climbing, it was at 1.11 but dropped back because of the recent economic shenanigans around the world.
It's fine though, I'll actually save way more money importing. New releases only cost me about 35AUD imported, I just have to wait a couple of weeks after launch to play them because of shipping times.
I H8 Memes said:
Conversely, I love how Steam fanboys always try to frame the argument as Steam vs. EA. Because surely if you were so into the whole privately owned vs. publicly owned thing as far as purchasing PC games online, you'd know Gamersgate, Impulse, GOG, OnLive and others aren't publicly owned and you never would've said such a silly thing.
I H8 Memes said:
Not much, apparently.
Salacious Crumb
Junior Member
confused said:
Who's forcing publishers to raise DD prices? How can Valve release all their games at US retail prices here? Back a couple years all games were actually the same price as they were in the US.
Apple also recently lowered the prices on it's app store solely because of the strong Australian dollar.
Kuro Madoushi
Unconfirmed Member
I was just thinking about this today
Steam
Origin
D2D/gamefly???
Impulse
Onlive
GFWL
Ubisoft
GOG
Greenmangaming?
Blizzard (to some degree, I think they wasted a MASSIVE opportunity to start a Steam-like service and rule the world)
In terms of games, of course Steam is the winner, but Origin and it's wealth of good/decent games could give Steam a good fight.
If anything, does this remind anyone of the console wars? Exclusive games. Different philosophies.
There could be blood if Origin decides, "fuck it! EA games ONLY on Origin!"
D2D and its partnership with gamefly could prove interesting
Impulse hasn't done anything spectacular and doesn't have many exlcusives (if any???)
Onlive is a darkhorse. If they can improve the latency and broadband gets better, I'd RATHER stream than dl.
GFWL = joke
Ubisoft hasn't gotten much going yet. It's got some good games to build off of, but definitely not on par with Valve/Blizzard/EA
GoG has its niche so it should be safe...for now
Greenmangaming has given gamers what they want, trading in their unwanted games!
Blizzard arguably has the biggest franchises in PC gaming. I guess it's too bad they never did a, "want Diablo 3/Starcraft 2/World of Warcraft? install our client, which is a virtual store where you can buy other games and we get a cut!"
I'm still a Steam fanboy, and competition is always good, but I hope Steam keeps the advantages that these other companies have in mind and adapts. I'd stay on Steam for awhile since I'm a TF2 junkie
Steam
Origin
D2D/gamefly???
Impulse
Onlive
GFWL
Ubisoft
GOG
Greenmangaming?
Blizzard (to some degree, I think they wasted a MASSIVE opportunity to start a Steam-like service and rule the world)
In terms of games, of course Steam is the winner, but Origin and it's wealth of good/decent games could give Steam a good fight.
If anything, does this remind anyone of the console wars? Exclusive games. Different philosophies.
There could be blood if Origin decides, "fuck it! EA games ONLY on Origin!"
D2D and its partnership with gamefly could prove interesting
Impulse hasn't done anything spectacular and doesn't have many exlcusives (if any???)
Onlive is a darkhorse. If they can improve the latency and broadband gets better, I'd RATHER stream than dl.
GFWL = joke
Ubisoft hasn't gotten much going yet. It's got some good games to build off of, but definitely not on par with Valve/Blizzard/EA
GoG has its niche so it should be safe...for now
Greenmangaming has given gamers what they want, trading in their unwanted games!
Blizzard arguably has the biggest franchises in PC gaming. I guess it's too bad they never did a, "want Diablo 3/Starcraft 2/World of Warcraft? install our client, which is a virtual store where you can buy other games and we get a cut!"
I'm still a Steam fanboy, and competition is always good, but I hope Steam keeps the advantages that these other companies have in mind and adapts. I'd stay on Steam for awhile since I'm a TF2 junkie
I really don't give a shit where I get my DD titles from, assuming the price is right. Steam is still my preference, but I've had a good experience with D2D and EA seems to be going about flogging their stuff the right way on Origin (Exclusivity aside).
Competition, generally, is good.
Competition, generally, is good.
pieatorium
Member
confused said:
When you can import a game for half price including shipping then I don't think it is unreasonable at all.
legend166 said:
LOL
You act as if EA is the only company guilty of this practice while they are just part of the general problem.
Salacious Crumb said:
These companies are more the exception than the rule. How do Microsoft products reflect the exchange rate ? And Sony, Nintendo ? Right, set prices that don't fluctuate due to exchange rates because they shouldn't have to compete with other regions
pieatorium
Member
No where did anyone say it's an EA only problem.confused said:
legend166 said:
Really, How much cheaper do your consoles get due to exchange rates, or mobile phones ?
pieatorium said:
The guy who mentioned it was EA causing games to cost $100
hamchan said:
General enough for a lot of people to think $100 is the common price for games in Australia.
Salacious Crumb
Junior Member
confused said:
None of the other greedy bastards are trying to force me to use their shitty DD services which means I can get their games gifted from US gaffers on steam for reasonable prices.
So lets see this from my perspective.
Valve runs steam.
Valve sells their games here for US retail prices 50USD perfectly reasonable.
EA runs origin
EA sells their games here for 80-100USD, a completely arbitrary price motivated by profits.
Whose DD store would you choose to support?
ThaiGrocer
Member
This is expected in an open system such as the PC and I look forward to the increased competition. Even gaben said he didn't expect to be dominant for long (like in five years). I should grab a source off google. I, as many others, have a bias for Steam since they lured me in with HL2... and built a nice, slightly un-gated garden around me.
Salacious Crumb
Junior Member
confused said:
You think they wouldn't stop it if they could?
pieatorium
Member
EA is causing the price of their games to be $100 on DD services, there is no denying that.confused said:
