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[PhoncipleBone]

i love me some black bolt.

Oh, yes. The Marvel Knights Inhumans series by Jenkins and Lee was so fucking good.

 

[HomerSimpson-Man]

Blackagar Boltagon

Dat name.





Seriously WTF, Marvel? lol

 

[Slayven]

Isn`t this the character that could destroy the entire universe just by whispering a single word?

Not a universe, but he did punch a hole into a universe where marvel went all lovecraftian.

 

[Gr1mLock]

^^^^^
Badass.

Though they retconned it. *Sigh* Of course Marvel was going to retconn. >_<




Black Bolt.

he's beaten hulk before..im just too lazy to scour the intrawebs

 

[HomerSimpson-Man]

he's beaten hulk before..im just too lazy to scour the intrawebs

I know. Hence the warning to Hulk.

But the whole series leading up to it was to show how these people playing Russian roulette for the sake of humanity, that even god tier characters had someone to fear, finally facing off against the potential of Hulk, to teach even "good guys" needed a good smacking for all the crap being done. After Civil War and Hulk's banishment that that lead to so much suffering more than any sane person should have endured, it was like, everyone needed a good spanking, and Hulk was the one to deliver.

The whole thing with Black Bolt and Sentry easily beating Hulk in the past was cool in that WWH showed it was their mistake to think it will be like that again. Hulk kept saying it's not like before and kicked ass.

It was awesome seeing Hulk just let loose, but then dur dur...it was only a Krull.

 

[sleepykyo]

lol Superman hasn't been cheap since the 90s. Hulk's ridiculous bullshit was in full form with WWH.

Hulk and Wolverine are the two cheapest comic book characters of all time

Cheap enough in that Batman and Superman v. Darkseid cartoon. Started off good (trying really hard to ignore how Batman is capable of taking as much abuse as he does), but then it goes back to the usual problem with Darkseid v. Superman, it basically degenerates into Superman getting pounded then Darkseid gets pounded, then Superman gets pounded. Felt like watching Dragonball or Bleach where character just spontaneously level up. Batman's threat and Darkseid's reason for believing it were pretty good though.

Should Wolverine even be capable of cutting up Hulk though? Even if adamantium is unbreakable we're talking about applying enough force to break skin that can resist 60(?) tons of force. It was even mentioned in that Future Imperfect storyline that Cap's vibrantium shield is lethal against the Hulk but Cap just isn't strong enough.

 

[Slayven]

 

[Gr1mLock]

I liked world war hulk a bunch..cep't his stupid looking spartacus armor that jrjr couldnt seem to help himself but slap on him. That and the fight with sentry pissed me off too. I figured they went SO far they might as well had let him get the definitive W as opposed to that wish washy safe ending.

 

[Blackace]

I hate it when they talk like they are sitting in a Starbucks..

 

[les papillons sexuels]

dr manhattan is the most overpowered comic book character ever, I honestly don't see how it can be debated.

also, doesn't thor have the most theoretical physical strength of any superhero? Not to mention magical abilities, complete control over weather, energy manipulation, and his whole godblast thing.

Thor imo is more cheap then any other hero.

edit
just wanted to add that thor was able to keep hulk contained on several occaisions, and was able to fight off both thor and namor into a stalemate 2 on 1.

 

[Finaika]

Should Wolverine even be capable of cutting up Hulk though? Even if adamantium is unbreakable we're talking about applying enough force to break skin that can resist 60(?) tons of force. It was even mentioned in that Future Imperfect storyline that Cap's vibrantium shield is lethal against the Hulk but Cap just isn't strong enough.

He can just poke the Hulk`s eyes.

 

[HomerSimpson-Man]

I liked world war hulk a bunch..cep't his stupid looking spartacus armor that jrjr couldnt seem to help himself but slap on him. That and the fight with sentry pissed me off too. I figured they went SO far they might as well had let him get the definitive W as opposed to that wish washy safe ending.

I know what you mean. Though still even after that fight with Reynolds unconcious, Hulk got even more powerful; so it wasn't as wishy-washy as can be.

Just put in perspective, how man people Hulk just beat one after another in a days periods recovery and then had to fight Sentry in the end. That's just insane.

He can just poke the Hulk`s eyes.

He pretty much had to do that in World War Hulk. Wolverine noted that Hulk was far much harder to cut than ever before in his Green Scar incarnation that his eyes were the only things he could give enough force to cut.

Of course, he smacked Wolverine like a hundred yards away and his eyes healed/grew back.

 

[Slayven]

I know what you mean. Though still even after that fight with Reynolds unconcious, Hulk got even more powerful; so it wasn't as wishy-washy as can be.

Just put in perspective, how man people Hulk just beat one after another in a days periods recovery and then had to fight Sentry in the end. That's just insane.

Well dude was pissed and he had a year of training.

 

[Gr1mLock]

He can just poke the Hulk`s eyes.

I dont think there's anyone really paying attention to that..whoever is the official keeper of all things that cause nerd rage in cannon. In the wolvie vs hulk cartoon wolvie was slicing and stabbing him pretty good..and the last wolverine vs hulk fight (outside of the ultimate vs series) i remember was back when leinil yu was on wolvie with ellis i think..and it went how you described..wolvie couldnt punch a hole into him other then his eyes.

 

[HomerSimpson-Man]

Adamanium/vibrantium:

The catch all material designed to cut any and all superman type characters, no radioactive glowing isotopes needed.

 

[sleepykyo]

Oh and one more worst question ever. [in Simpson's comic book guy voice]

How strong is Spider-man? I'm almost positive it was 2 tons max, but I get the impression it in the double digits now.

edit: But don't you still need to apply a large amount of force to cut it?

 

[Slayven]

Oh and one more worst question ever. [in Simpson's comic book guy voice]

How strong is Spider-man? I almost positive it was 2 tons max, but I get the impression it in the double digits now.

Officially he started out at ten tons, but he has grown stronger as he gotten older.

 

[Oblivion]

Officially he started out at ten tons, but he has grown stronger as he gotten older.

Oh, really? I thought 10 was the maximum. Interesting..

 

[Freshmaker]

I hate it when they talk like they are sitting in a Starbucks..

I dunno. I liked "My name's Monet and I'm virtually invulnerable."
*boot* "Go be invulnerable in New Jersey."

 

[sleepykyo]

All those Daredevil/Kingpin/Captain America/even Rhino v. Spider-man matches sound pretty silly right about now.

 

[Blackace]

I dunno. I liked "My name's Monet and I'm virtually invulnerable."
*boot* "Go be invulnerable in New Jersey."

That's fine.. but that isn't three pages of fighting and chatting..

 

[Freshmaker]

That's fine.. but that isn't three pages of fighting and chatting..

That was a excerpt. Plenty of more chatting in that sequence.
The Hulk also summed up my thoughts on the X team attacking him.
"This is stupid. I don't even know who any of you are."
He also called Warpath useless.

 

[HomerSimpson-Man]

All those Daredevil/Kingpin/Captain America/even Rhino v. Spider-man matches sound pretty silly right about now.

It's really understated a lot how powerful Spider-man is even in his own comics. Superstrength and agility, perfect balance, enhanced speed/reflexes, extremely adhesive grip supporting far more than himself, and his precognitive spider-sense. You have to wonder the chances people have with him. Hell, his webbing is stronger than steel.

 

[Gr1mLock]

All those Daredevil/Kingpin/Captain America/even Rhino v. Spider-man matches sound pretty silly right about now.

well in the kubert waid relaunch of cap, he beat the rhino with one kick...and held up a building with his shield. Over the years marvel has really sucked ass defining just how strong their not hulk or sentry characters are. Particularly spidey and cap.

 

[Leucrota]

Here is a list of a 'few' of Hulk's feats of strength - LINK

Some of this stuff is INSANE, and no comic book hero could ever reproduce. He is absolutely strong beyond measure, which is why I absolutely love him.

I cannot read most comic books because I am just no impressed with the heroes and usually can't suspend my disbelief (why the fuck has Batman not been blown up or shot a million times over??) whereas with the Hulk, it is just all out action and ANYTHING could happen.

EDIT: More - LINK

 

[Oblivion]

I always hated how Spiderman had a huge amount of trouble with the Kingpin in the cartoons. Kingpin put him in a bear hug and Spiderman couldn't escape. Wtf?!

It's really understated a lot how powerful Spider-man is. Superstrength, agility, perfect balance, enhanced speed/reflexes, and with his precognitive spider-sense. You have to wonder the chances people have with him. Hell, his webbing is stronger than steel.

That's just an old wives tale.

 

[Narag]

Oh man there's other feats too.
http://www.incrediblehulkonline.com/incrediblefeats.html

 

[Hypatia]

Dude, Ranma was awesome because every volume was just "hey, what completely non-fighting related thing can we turn into a martial art?"

Anything Goes Martial Arts Comic Book Power Levels Discussion!

 

[Sharp]

The Hulk survived a direct hit with a nuclear bomb? Yeah, that's fucking retarded.

 

[Oblivion]

Here is a list of a 'few' of Hulk's feats of strength - LINK

Some of this stuff is INSANE, and no comic book hero could ever reproduce. He is absolutely strong beyond measure, which is why I absolutely love him.

I cannot read most comic books because I am just no impressed with the heroes and usually can't suspend my disbelief (why the fuck has Batman not been blown up or shot a million times over??) whereas with the Hulk, it is just all out action and ANYTHING could happen.

EDIT: More - LINK

The Hulk destroys an asteroid 2 times the size of the Earth

That's such utter HORSESHIT!

Spoiler

Wouldn't an asteroid that big technically be a planet?

 

[Leucrota]

Wait wouldn't that be a planet?

Yes. It would definitively have enough mass to pull itself into a sphere(oid). But, yah know, comic books...

 

[sleepykyo]

well in the kubert waid relaunch of cap, he beat the rhino with one kick...and held up a building with his shield. Over the years marvel has really sucked ass defining just how strong their not hulk or sentry characters are. Particularly spidey and cap.

The heck? Poor Daredevil, everyone gets buffed while he gets beat up by a drugged up Captain America, stepped on by Crossbones and pretty much jobs to every other superhero.

 

[HomerSimpson-Man]

Wait wouldn't that be a planet?

lol, technically yeah. It would be a interstellar planet possibly ejected from a still developing system.

 

[Gr1mLock]

The heck? Poor Daredevil, everyone gets buffed while he gets beat up by a drugged up Captain America, stepped on by Crossbones and pretty much jobs to every other superhero.

he did beat up the punisher!!..eh..eh?..

 

[Ariexv]

Clearly

Wins

 

[Dreams-Visions]

is that also Punisher Captain America?

even if not...yea, that dude wins.

 

[Jarmel]

This has been a great thread.

Reading the stuff about Spider-man is depressing as all hell. He's nerfed so bad despite him being a genius and powers that make him insane in a fight.

 

[Gr1mLock]

Clearly

Wins

well he DID lift mjolinr...might as well.

 

[Tacitus_]

Yes. It would definitively have enough mass to pull itself into a sphere(oid). But, yah know, comic books...

From wiki: A planet is a celestial body orbiting a star or stellar remnant that is massive enough to be rounded by its own gravity, is not massive enough to cause thermonuclear fusion, and has cleared its neighbouring region of planetesimals.

 

[Phoenixazure]

Clearly

Awesome Steve Rogers Nova
Wins

Indeed. Marvel Cosmic has such insane power levels including.

and

for a few

 

[Freshmaker]

That's just an old wives tale.

It depends on the mix. In Assassin Nation Plot, he had made new webbing that was so string he couldn't smudge it with a welder's torch, and it was so strong the blades on his web shooters were incapable of cutting the line. He had to stop during a fight and break it with his Spider Strength.

 

[fallengorn]

Hulk vs. Black Bolt

To be fair, wasn't that the Skrull Black Bolt?

 

[PhoncipleBone]

To be fair, wasn't that the Skrull Black Bolt?

Still cool moment though.

 

[Freshmaker]

To be fair, wasn't that the Skrull Black Bolt?

Either way the BB in question blew a massive chunk off the moon with the follow up attack.

 

[SlipperySlope]

I read that the Hulk once shoved a continent. I'm sorry, but the mass ratio is just too ridiculous for me to accept.

What about reversing the Earth's rotation... thus causing time to reverse... ???

 

[HomerSimpson-Man]

To be fair, wasn't that the Skrull Black Bolt?

Still, Hulk faced off against broken-tier Sentry, Hulk probably could do it to real Black Bolt in World War Hulk.

 

[Oblivion]

Indeed. Marvel Cosmic has such insane power levels including.

[/IMG]

for a few

Is that Adam Warlock?

 

[Narag]

Is that Adam Warlock?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Marvel_(Mar-Vell)#Lord_Mar-Vell

 

[Gr1mLock]

Still, Hulk faced off against broken-tier Sentry, Hulk probably could do it to real Black Bolt in World War Hulk.

i still think that the days of rage hulk was slightly worse...and more fun.

 

[Ariexv]

is that also Punisher Captain America?

even if not...yea, that dude wins.

It's Steve Rogers w/ Nova's helmet... Nova takes it off to wear the serpent crown, Steve puts on the Nova helmet to stop him with everyone around him telling him hes insane and can't handle the power, how it took the current nova something like a year to master the powers and not go insane or something.. Steve then proceeds to put the helmet on and immediately go beat the shit out of Nova wearing the serpent crown. I'm pretty sure the only real contender against Steve Rogers Nova is