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OmniGamer said:
Storm... so much. She's generated Jovian level atmospheric pressure... she can shift her perception to see everything in terms of energy and energy patterns, she can disrupt a person's bio-electric rhythm... and her willpower is extremely formidable

So they're finally letting reach her potential? I grew up mostly with strong but reserved Storm. Mohawk Storm was more about letting her "nasty" side show rather than a shift in power. Reading the above makes you wonder how Dracula ever got the drop on her.
 
Wiseblade said:
Good luck manipulating air around possibly the greatest Airbender in history.
Damn hard to riverdance your way to victory if you can't breathe and your balance has been destroyed by Storm messing with your inner ear pressure.
 
Freshmaker said:
Damn hard to riverdance your way to victory if you can't breathe and your balance has been destroyed by Storm messing with your inner ear pressure.

ok, i laughed at this much harder than i should have
 
LakeEarth said:
I know, how can the hold be unbreakable when SS clearly has a hand free?

Well that and the fact that panther is at peak human strength where as surfer is above class 100 (If I remember correctly).
 
Meh, Storm has bitch slapped by less. Ditto for Magneto.

Oh, yeah, he could do this!

How about this?!

Just one-upping powers.

It's not really a sustained scenario. Same for all the feats of strength we listed. From the way people are stating things its no wonder a city blows up every-time someone fights.

It's really comic antics that keeps these characters wavering all over the place. At least for being like Superman, Hulk, they were always ridiculousness powered to being with.

And Black Panther holding Silver Silver, that as bad as that Batman kicking the air out of Hulk in the gut...I mean WTF is this? You should being having Thor/Hulk level characters for that.
 
But she's had power stunts like that pretty much all the time... way back in the early 90s during Multiple Man's funeral (well one of his dupes, that is) due to the Legacy Virus, Storm is flying, then lands and takes a sec to adjust back to normal, stating how beautiful the world his through her heightened perceptions and that shifting back to normal, the world looks mundane in comparison... X-Factor issue 101 IIRC [/nerd]
 
OmniGamer said:
Storm... so much. She's generated Jovian level atmospheric pressure... she can shift her perception to see everything in terms of energy and energy patterns, she can disrupt a person's bio-electric rhythm... and her willpower is extremely formidable
You know what? screw it. Since everyone is is so convinced Storm would win, I'm going to include the Avatar State in Aang's power set. I originally excluded it to try and make things fair, but since she so owerwhelmingly powerful...

The Avatar state allows him to channel the power of all the past Avatars and gives him insane control over the elements. Storm wouldn't even be able to conjure up a cool breeze or a light drizzle without his knowledge and permission. Aang is capable of flight, which eliminates Storm's air superiority. The ability to sense vibrations in his surroundings emulates 360 degree vision.


Aang auto-wins.
 
Wiseblade said:
You know what? screw it. Since everyone is is so convinced Storm would win, I'm going to include the Avatar State in Aang's power set. I originally excluded it to try and make things fair, but since she so owerwhelmingly powerful...

The Avatar state allows him to channel the power of all the past Avatars and gives him insane control over the elements. Storm wouldn't even be able to conjure up a cool breeze or a light drizzle without his knowledge and permission. Aang is capable of flight, which eliminates Storm's air superiority. The ability to sense vibrations in his surroundings emulates 360 degree vision.


Aang auto-wins.

Even with flight, he's still a lot slower than Storm.
 
Wiseblade said:
The Avatar state allows him to channel the power of all the past Avatars and gives him insane control over the elements. Storm wouldn't even be able to conjure up a cool breeze or a light drizzle without his knowledge and permission.
When did Ang's power allow him to remove someone else's power over the elements? I don't recall anyone's bending power removed when Ang went Avatar-state.

I can't say I recall such a happening, yet it's the linchpin of your argument. Me thinks Storm will still be able to do what the fuck she wants. Ang always seemed too needy and too vulnerable to face someone with Storm's talents. He had enough trouble with masters of just 1 element. Storm is a master of them all as he is.
 
Dreams-Visions said:
When did Ang's power allow him to remove someone else's power over the elements? I don't recall anyone's bending power removed when Ang went Avatar-state.

He energy bended Ozai's power away in the end.
 
Storm is also able to sense her surroundings. She is naturally atuned to the energy of the planet... her subconscious state of mind used to affect the weather around her all the time. And her will power and resolve, natural battle skills honed further by years of training and leadership give her an amazing physical and mental edge.

And trying to affect her claustrophobia is the wrong way to go. It won't scare her, it'll only erode her self control to the point of not giving a damn about the consequences and unleashing a planet wide bitch fit. Storm is not one to be bound.
 
HomerSimpson-Man said:
Meh, Storm has bitch slapped by less. Ditto for Magneto.

Oh, yeah, he could do this!

How about this?!

Just one-upping powers.

It's not really a sustained scenario. Same for all the feats of strength we listed. From the way people are stating things its no wonder a city blows up every-time someone fights.

It's really comic antics that keeps these characters wavering all over the place. At least for being like Superman, Hulk, they were always ridiculousness powered to being with.

And Black Panther holding Silver Silver, that as bad as that Batman kicking the air out of Hulk in the gut...I mean WTF is this? You should being having Thor/Hulk level characters for that.

To be fair, Black Panther has a entire countries worth of tech support behind him, plus some of the most advanced tech on the planet that's only rivaled by Stark/Reed tech.

He's ripped out Mephistos heart:

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Mind you Black Panther is basically Batman in the Marvel Universe mixed with Shaka Zulu/Captain America (the whole Wakandan Panther God ritual enhancing his strength and all that).
 
Wiseblade said:
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I'm still going with Aang.

But bending requires actual arm/leg movements. Storm can just stand in place and lightning bolt Ang CONTINUOSLY. Lightning bending is one thing, but Lightning deflecting has been proven to be fairly difficult even for master level Fire Benders (meaning they can do it, but they can't do anything else while doing it).
 
SHAZOOM said:
But bending requires actual arm/leg movements. Storm can just stand in place and lightning bolt Ang CONTINUOSLY. Lightning bending is one thing, but Lightning deflecting has been proven to be fairly difficult even for master level Fire Benders (meaning they can do it, but they can't do anything else while doing it).
Except for the fact that Aang showed he could dodge lightning and fight back at the same time in his fight against Firelord Ozai. Hell, he actively gave up the opportunity to redirect lightning right back into the Fire Lord's face.
 
Wiseblade said:
You know what? screw it. Since everyone is is so convinced Storm would win, I'm going to include the Avatar State in Aang's power set. I originally excluded it to try and make things fair, but since she so owerwhelmingly powerful...

The Avatar state allows him to channel the power of all the past Avatars and gives him insane control over the elements. Storm wouldn't even be able to conjure up a cool breeze or a light drizzle without his knowledge and permission. Aang is capable of flight, which eliminates Storm's air superiority. The ability to sense vibrations in his surroundings emulates 360 degree vision.


Aang auto-wins.

knowledge and permission? where are you getting that from? he surely didnt stop ozai from shooting flames at him.

Wiseblade said:
Except for the fact that Aang showed he could dodge lightning and fight back at the same time in his fight against Firelord Ozai. Hell, he actively gave up the opportunity to redirect lightning right back into the Fire Lord's face.

one? how about two bolts? or three? what about doing that while being miles away?
 
Wiseblade said:
Except for the fact that Aang showed he could dodge lightning and fight back at the same time in his fight against Firelord Ozai. Hell, he actively gave up the opportunity to redirect lightning right back into the Fire Lord's face.

Dodge lightning, easy. Redirecting one lightning shot? HARD. Ozai was only shooting single bolts, Storm can just set the lightning to continuous volleys. And I'm saying this as someone who LIKES Avatar.

Also, I'm pretty sure it was stated that Ang can't energy bend Storm's powers in the stipulations.

Even if he could, he actually has to have to make contact to start the whole process AND risk having the same done to him while doing it.
 
SHAZOOM said:
Also, I'm pretty sure it was stated that Ang can't energy bend Storm's powers in the stipulations.

Even if he could, he actually has to have to make contact to start the whole process AND risk having the same done to him while doing it.

how would he? her abilities are genetic, not a form of bending.
 
Parallax said:
knowledge and permission? where are you getting that from? he surely didnt stop ozai from shooting flames at him.



one? how about two bolts? or three? what about doing that while being miles away?

What is was trying to say was that Aang's contreol of the elements is a more direct than Storm's control of the weather, so in the Avatar state he could nullify anything she throws at him without difficulty.

Once Aang glowed up, Ozai was totally on the back foot and didn't get a chance to do anything but run.
 
Wiseblade said:
Once Aang glowed up, Ozai was totally on the back foot and didn't get a chance to do anything but run.

theres a difference between ororo and ozai. ororo isnt a coward, and can think on her feet.
 
Wiseblade said:
What is was trying to say was that Aang's contreol of the elements is a more direct than Storm's control of the weather, so in the Avatar state he could nullify anything she throws at him without difficulty.
How is it more direct? Aang has to dance around. Storm just has to will something to happen.
 
Momo said:
I know zero about Avatar, but that universe never looked powerful from what I saw at a glance

Not in general, but the Avatar State was consistently shown to have immense power, on a "force of nature" scale. Splitting continents, giant tsunamis, earthquakes and the like.
Freshmaker said:
How is it more direct? Aang has to dance around. Storm just has to will something to happen.

More direct as in: Storm can "make it rain!" but Aang can use waterbending to make the clouds disperse, bend the moisture in the air into icicles and launch them at Storm.

Greyface said:
Is that Aang? I thought he was a little kid. This thread has inspired me to watch the movie. Hope it's good.

No, it's the avatar before Aang. And he was a wimp.

also: NOOOO! Don't watch the movie! It's terrible!
 
Greyface said:
Is that Aang? I thought he was a little kid. This thread has inspired me to watch the movie. Hope it's good.

Good god, no. Don't do it.

I saw the movie before the show. I just couldn't believe how bad it was on a supposed revered animated series.

I watched the show out of interest for a reference point. I loved it! I barely tolerated the movie but after finding out how incredible the show was, I actually understood and became angry at the film. It became insulting the amount of whitewashing the movie was and the disregard for east Asian ethnicity and cultures that was so predominantly present. The show was a love letter to classical kung fu movies too, but holy cow talk about screwing it all up.

Another key, was they tried to cram an entire season into one film; so rush job is an understatement.
 
Haha to this day I've never finished the movie. I got up to Aang waking up after defrosting and I had to stop. Rewatching it I got to the Earth Kingdom and stopped again due to the hilarity.

The movie is terrible.
 
PounchEnvy said:
Haha to this day I've never finished the movie. I got up to Aang waking up after defrosting and I had to stop. Rewatching it I got to the Earth Kingdom and stopped again due to the hilarity.

The movie is terrible.

The kids line deliveries were so...WTF? The old monk who talked about the lines of Avatars in the air temple, who you could tell English was not his first language, delivered with less awkwardness than them!

The movie would seriously improve if the kids were kept mostly silent.
 
SHAZOOM said:
To be fair, Black Panther has a entire countries worth of tech support behind him, plus some of the most advanced tech on the planet that's only rivaled by Stark/Reed tech.

He's ripped out Mephistos heart:

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Mind you Black Panther is basically Batman in the Marvel Universe mixed with Shaka Zulu/Captain America (the whole Wakandan Panther God ritual enhancing his strength and all that).

Even with all that tech though...it was an arm hold.
 
SHAZOOM said:
To be fair, Black Panther has a entire countries worth of tech support behind him, plus some of the most advanced tech on the planet that's only rivaled by Stark/Reed tech.

He's ripped out Mephistos heart:


That's cool mephisto too. I hated the count chocula looking version.
 
I never did either but have always known he's awesome. I think Christopher Priest had an acclaimed run years back that's collected now.
 
Dreams-Visions said:
damn, I'mma have to read up on Black Panther.

Never followed him ever.

Just read Christopher Priest's run. Everything else ranges from crap to shit. Well, I guess that's not entirely true, I did enjoy that one arc Jason Aaron did during Secret Invasion.
 
The avatar movie was nice. Kinda think I should have watched the rest of the show first.

fake Edit: I watched the cartoon movie lol. that's the series finale right? I had already heard awful things about the film version and knew to avoid that. ps. I had no clue that the avatar had reached puberty, the ending as shocking o_0
 
Greyface said:
The avatar movie was nice. Kinda think I should have watched the rest of the show first.

fake Edit: I watched the cartoon movie lol. that's the series finale right? I had already heard awful things about the film version and knew to avoid that. ps. I had no clue that the avatar had reached puberty, the ending as shocking o_0

Wait, so you just dove straight into the finale?

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Wiseblade said:
Wait, so you just dove straight into the finale?

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I didn't quite understand it was the finale, finale. Isn't there supposed to be another season coming out soon? by the time I realized what I had gotten into, i was too engrossed in the story to stop watching. i like it a lot though. I'll watch the previous episodes when I can.
 
Greyface said:
The avatar movie was nice. Kinda think I should have watched the rest of the show first.

fake Edit: I watched the cartoon movie lol. that's the series finale right? I had already heard awful things about the film version and knew to avoid that. ps. I had no clue that the avatar had reached puberty, the ending as shocking o_0

What the fuck?!

You done messed up!
 
Splatt said:
Just read Christopher Priest's run. Everything else ranges from crap to shit. Well, I guess that's not entirely true, I did enjoy that one arc Jason Aaron did during Secret Invasion.

The recent Black Panther "The man without fear" has been rather good as well I find, although it is only one and a half story arcs in.
 
Greyface said:
I didn't quite understand it was the finale, finale. Isn't there supposed to be another season coming out soon? by the time I realized what I had gotten into, i was too engrossed in the story to stop watching. i like it a lot though. I'll watch the previous episodes when I can.

There isn't "another" season coming soon. The original Avatar has only 3 seasons, and that's it.

Book of Water
Book of Earth
Book of Fire

There is a new series planned in the Avatar universe, but it's not another season.
 
HomerSimpson-Man said:
There isn't "another" season coming soon. The original Avatar has only 3 seasons, and that's it.

Book of Water
Book of Earth
Book of Fire

There is a new series planned in the Avatar universe, but it's not another season.
oh :|
 
Parallax said:
how would he? her abilities are genetic, not a form of bending.


I thought being able to bend was also genetic. Storm is more powerful than Aang so he only stands a chance in Avatar state , but unless he merges with a spirit againI still think it would be an uphill battle for him.




Anyway I didn't the Last Airbender movie was that bad.
 
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