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[Freshmaker]

Wrong! If you've watched Dragonball, you'd know that Goku only acts retarded, due to the fact that he's completely Zen'd out from training with Mr. Popo and Kami. He's reached the pinnacle of the mental discipline that all martial artists strive for.

This means that Goku is actually a hyper-sensitive fighting genius. Tranquil like water. He has complete control of his mind, body and emotions. In combat, he's easily as smart and calculated as Batman.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylACcnHS3i0

 

[Parallax]

I brought this up before but it kind of lost in the thread a few days ago, so I want to try again.

to me, it solely depends on whether or not ororo is still claustrophobic, and whether or not aang would be willing to exploit that.

 

[Stealth Editor]

Obelix is the cheapest character ever. Unlimited, permanent strenght with no draw backs in a universe where no one else has a superpower and guns dont exist yet

 

[Wiseblade]

Aang is never willing to use lethal force.

He killed a bee that one time.

 

[hteng]

this guy, nothing, i mean nothing, not even anti matter can ever penetrate the AT field, and when it goes berserk it tears shit up with infinite regeneration to boot.

 

[Parallax]

this guy, nothing, i mean nothing, not even anti matter can ever penetrate the AT field, and when it goes berserk it tears shit up with infinite regeneration to boot.

heh heh heh. nope. nothing in their world may be able to damage it, but there have been many a being listed in this thread that would tear unit 01 apart.

 

[Momo]

http://i.imgur.com/REIFf.jpg[IMG]

this guy, nothing, i mean nothing, not even anti matter can ever penetrate the AT field, and when it goes berserk it tears shit up with infinite regeneration to boot.[/QUOTE]
Kaworu could take Unit 01 if so inclined.

 

[Wiseblade]

this guy, nothing, i mean nothing, not even anti matter can ever penetrate the AT field, and when it goes berserk it tears shit up with infinite regeneration to boot.

Gurren Lagann's probability manipulation abilities could trump it.

Takes a Gainax to beat a Gainax.

 

[Wiseblade]

to me, it solely depends on whether or not ororo is still claustrophobic, and whether or not aang would be willing to exploit that.

In the interests of fairness I'd say that the only information they know about their opponents is what they can determine during battle. This is also assuming that she no longer suppers crippling claustrophobia, but is uncomfortable in enclosed spaces.

But I'd think even without that handicap, Aang would win. He can counter anything she throws at him, but she can't do much when he starts throwing boulders at her full force. It would only take one or two body blows to ground her, where he has the advantage. Or he could just encase her in a rock-cocoon which is pretty much an instant win.

 

[Parallax]

In the interests of fairness I'd say that the only information they know about their opponents is what they can determine during battle. This is also assuming that she no longer suppers crippling claustrophobia, but is uncomfortable in enclosed spaces.

But I'd think even without that handicap, Aang would win. He can counter anything she throws at him, but she can't do much when he starts throwing boulders at her full force. It would only take one or two body blows to ground her, where he has the advantage. Or he could just encase her in a rock-cocoon which is pretty much an instant win.

i dissagree. the series has gone through great lengths to explain how dangerous lightning bending is. to the point that its a long drawn out process to throw it and defend it. ororo can manipulate it at will. if she can constantly spam him with lightning, and throw snowstorms and hurricanes his way i dont see how he could come out the victor.

 

[WanderingWind]

i dissagree. the series has gone through great lengths to explain how dangerous lightning bending is. to the point that its a long drawn out process to throw it and defend it. ororo can manipulate it at will. if she can constantly spam him with lightning, and throw snowstorms and hurricanes his way i dont see how he could come out the victor.

Plus, he's 12. And a pacifist at heart. Ororo would deep fry his ass. Conversation over. NEXT TOPIC.

 

[Megadragon15]

Popeye is a character who is ridiculously over-powered with the additional power of reality altering punches.

 

[Wiseblade]

i dissagree. the series has gone through great lengths to explain how dangerous lightning bending is. to the point that its a long drawn out process to throw it and defend it. ororo can manipulate it at will. if she can constantly spam him with lightning, and throw snowstorms and hurricanes his way i dont see how he could come out the victor.

I disagree. Aang is an Airbending prodigy - the youngest master in the history of the Air Nomads. There's no way Storm's getting any air based weather attacks on him. Similarly, snow attacks would be a dead end against a master level Waterbender. The way I see the fight going, Storm's reduced entirely to lightning based attacks while Aang still would have air and earth available to him. It's safe to assume a constant thunderstorm would make Firebending impractical.

With the superspeed granted through Airbending and the power to redirect lightning, Storm is put on the back foot from the start.

 

[evil solrac v3.0]

Popeye is a character who is ridiculously over-powered with the additional power of reality altering punches.

not much different from Superboy-prime.

 

[beat]

I just saw this Even Worse Superheroes Redesigns page, including the Hulk "redesign":

 

[bangai-o]

MG]http://i.imgur.com/REIFf.jpg[/IMG]

this guy, nothing, i mean nothing, not even anti matter can ever penetrate the AT field, and when it goes berserk it tears shit up with infinite regeneration to boot.

pft An Evangelion cant even take a Gundam down. What makes anyone think it can fight Hulk.

 

[Yo Gotti]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylACcnHS3i0

:lol what the fuuuck was that.

 

[Parallax]

I disagree. Aang is an Airbending prodigy - the youngest master in the history of the Air Nomads. There's no way Storm's getting any air based weather attacks on him. Similarly, snow attacks would be a dead end against a master level Waterbender. The way I see the fight going, Storm's reduced entirely to lightning based attacks while Aang still would have air and earth available to him. It's safe to assume a constant thunderstorm would make Firebending impractical.

With the superspeed granted through Airbending and the power to redirect lightning, Storm is put on the back foot from the start.

thats the thing, hes not a master level water bender. or earthbender for that matter. and while air is his specialty, as roku showed us with his death, you can be overwhelmed by something you master. then theres the fact that ororo has been controlling nature for much longer than he has, and is much smarter than he is and a much better tactician. the only advantage that he has is earthbending, and she can fly, something he cant do. even if all she would do is stay in the air and spam lightning mvc style, she could win this. avatar state would be a nice attacking plus, but when you have someone that can control such a range and throw most of what you can muster back at you, and with greater extremes than what you can, its hard to see how outside of a deus ex machina you can come out on top.

 

[jdogmoney]

thats the thing, hes not a master level water bender. or earthbender for that matter. and while air is his specialty, as roku showed us with his death, you can be overwhelmed by something you master. then theres the fact that ororo has been controlling nature for much longer than he has, and is much smarter than he is and a much better tactician. the only advantage that he has is earthbending, and she can fly, something he cant do. even if all she would do is stay in the air and spam lightning mvc style, she could win this. avatar state would be a nice attacking plus, but when you have someone that can control such a range and throw most of what you can muster back at you, and with greater extremes than what you can, its hard to see how outside of a deus ex machina you can come out on top.

The scenario was a fully realized Avatar, minus the Avatar State. That means full control over all four elements. Thus, Aang wins.

 

[KeeSomething]

What about Lobo? He's as strong as Superman, can breath in space, has regenerating powers like Wolverine, and he can clone himself. Oh, and he can't die.

 

[Oldschoolgamer]

Eh. When I asked, someone posted Storm doing crazy ish with a Universe and not just simple rainstorms. I don't think the fight would be free for either one.

 

[evil solrac v3.0]

What about Lobo? He's as strong as Superman, can breath in space, has regenerating powers like Wolverine, and he can clone himself. Oh, and he can't die.

yeah but there is usually some bastich that can poke holes in him too.

 

[Slayven]

Nowadays, Bruce Wayne is the mask.

That is always bothered me about Superman and Batman. Their secret identities seem more like just another tool in their belts and not who they are.

 

[jdogmoney]

That is always bothered me about Superman and Batman. Their secret identities seem more like just another tool in their belts and not who they are.

Well, yeah, sort of. imo, who they really are:

Batman is the guy in the cave, eating a sandwich Alfred brought him while solving a crime, dressed in the bat-getup sans cape and cowl.

Superman is the guy in Smallville doing work on Ma and Pa's farm, dressed in coveralls and holding up a tractor for some reason.

 

[Urban Scholar]

That is always bothered me about Superman and Batman. Their secret identities seem more like just another tool in their belts and not who they are.

Not sure if you watch or want to watch Smallville but you'd be sorely disappointed as this subject was the main focus.

 

[Parallax]

The scenario was a fully realized Avatar, minus the Avatar State. That means full control over all four elements. Thus, Aang wins.

mind explaining how aang wins? even master level benders have problems with natural disasters. ororo controls those natural disasters. meaning even in a earth based battle, she can push heavy rain and cause a heavy mudslide scenario. shes able to fly, which gives her an advantage on earthbending. with that same heavy rain, she shuts his firebending ability down quite a bit, which would leave him with improved range on waterbending, which she can just push lightning like crazy.

 

[Wiseblade]

thats the thing, hes not a master level water bender. or earthbender for that matter. and while air is his specialty, as roku showed us with his death, you can be overwhelmed by something you master. then theres the fact that ororo has been controlling nature for much longer than he has, and is much smarter than he is and a much better tactician. the only advantage that he has is earthbending, and she can fly, something he cant do. even if all she would do is stay in the air and spam lightning mvc style, she could win this. avatar state would be a nice attacking plus, but when you have someone that can control such a range and throw most of what you can muster back at you, and with greater extremes than what you can, its hard to see how outside of a deus ex machina you can come out on top.

Wait, what? By the end of the series Aang was most definitely a Waterbending master. And the Avatar State would tip things overwhelmingly in Aang's favour and pretty much guarantees his victory.

But that's besides the point. The scenario was that Aang would have mastery of the four elements, but lack access to the Avatar State.

 

[Jarmel]

What about Lobo? He's as strong as Superman, can breath in space, has regenerating powers like Wolverine, and he can clone himself. Oh, and he can't die.

That warning in the lower part is the best thing of that image.

 

[imoTEP12]

Not sure if you watch or want to watch Smallville but you'd be sorely disappointed as this subject was the main focus.

Ex-girlfriend used to watch smallville, I always hated every minute of it. Just seemed like a teen drama to me with bad costumes

 

[Parallax]

Wait, what? By the end of the series Aang was most definitely a Waterbending master. And the Avatar State would tip things overwhelmingly in Aang's favour and pretty much guarantees his victory.

But that's besides the point. The scenario was that Aang would have mastery of the four elements, but lack access to the Avatar State.

how exactly would the avatar state tip them in his favor against storm?

 

[Slayven]

Not sure if you watch or want to watch Smallville but you'd be sorely disappointed as this subject was the main focus.

I gave up on Smallville about the time Lana turned into a witch. I checked back in randomly to see how bad they were cutting the budget back.

 

[Slayven]

Well, yeah, sort of. imo, who they really are:

Batman is the guy in the cave, eating a sandwich Alfred brought him while solving a crime, dressed in the bat-getup sans cape and cowl.

That is always struck me as unbelievably sad thing about Batman. His parents died so he could live, but he is doing anything but.

 

[imoTEP12]

That is always struck me as unbelievably sad thing about Batman. His parents died so he could live, but he is doing anything but.

I don't know what your talking about eating a cold sandwich, alone, in a cave, in pitch black sure sounds like living to me

 

[WrenchNinja]

That is always struck me as unbelievably sad thing about Batman. His parents died so he could live, but he is doing anything but.

You should read "Death and the Maidens". Bruce is confronted by the spirits of his parents thanks to a gift from Ra's half way through the story and they're just completely disappointed in him. It's a really great story.

 

[Jarmel]

You should read "Death and the Maidens". Bruce is confronted by the spirits of his parents thanks to a gift from Ra's half way through the story and they're just completely disappointed in him. It's a really great story.

Was this the actual spirits or just a trick of Ra's? That would be an amazing story.

 

[WrenchNinja]

Was this the actual spirits or just a trick of Ra's? That would be an amazing story.

Basically Ra's asks Bruce for a favor, Bruce has access to one of the lasts Lazarus Pits in the world since all of Al Ghuls' is dried up and he is dying. Bruce eventually lets him have access and in return Ra's gives him a potion that will let him communicate with his parents. Whether it's a trick or not is never revealed but I'd like to think it wasn't.

My favourite part of the whole reunion is that his parents appear to him exactly how they looked like after their murder, so Martha has a bullet hole to the side of her head and Thomas through the chest.

 

[Jarmel]

Basically Ra's asks Bruce for a favor, Bruce has access to one of the lasts Lazarus Pits in the world since all of Al Ghuls' is dried up and he is dying. Bruce eventually lets him have access and in return Ra's gives him a potion that will let him communicate with his parents. Whether it's a trick or not is never revealed but I'd like to think it wasn't.

My favourite part of the whole reunion is that his parents appear to him exactly how they looked like after their murder, so Martha has a bullet hole to the side of her head and Thomas through the chest.

That's actually very interesting. After all the work and good he's done in the world, his parents expected better of him.

 

[the_log_ride]

Basically Ra's asks Bruce for a favor, Bruce has access to one of the lasts Lazarus Pits in the world since all of Al Ghuls' is dried up and he is dying. Bruce eventually lets him have access and in return Ra's gives him a potion that will let him communicate with his parents. Whether it's a trick or not is never revealed but I'd like to think it wasn't.

My favourite part of the whole reunion is that his parents appear to him exactly how they looked like after their murder, so Martha has a bullet hole to the side of her head and Thomas through the chest.

omg I must track this down now... lol

 

[WrenchNinja]

That's actually very interesting. After all the work and good he's done in the world, his parents expected better of him.

Well they're mostly disappointed that he wasted his life being a vigilante trying to avenge them, that he's risking his life like daily in their memory, that he has basically killed any way for him to have a normal life and settle down and be happy, when he could have been anything else with a mind like his. They just want him to be happy and safe like any parent would.

 

[Jarmel]

Well they're mostly disappointed that he wasted his life being a vigilante trying to avenge them, that he's risking his life like daily in their memory, that he has basically killed any way for him to have a normal life and settle down and be happy, when he could have been anything else with a mind like his. They just want him to be happy and safe like any parent would.

That's what I meant when I said they expected better of him, in regards to his personal life. Very few parents would want their children to become like Batman.

 

[imoTEP12]

That's what I meant when I said they expected better of him, in regards to his personal life. Very few parents would want their children to become like Batman.

They come back as spirits and tell him they are disappointed in his life choices so what does he do, ramps up batman times a million and starts batman inc. Touche Mr.Wayne touche

 

[WanderingWind]

That's what I meant when I said they expected better of him, in regards to his personal life. Very few parents would want their children to become like Batman.

Bulllshiiiiit. Imagine the parent bragging talks.

Joe Parent - "My child is a doctor at John Hopkins."
Thomas Wayne (not dead in this scenario) - "Yeah? Nice. My child is the goddamn Batman and has saved billions of lives. Also, he shot an evil new god and became a pilgrim. Suck it. Bitch."

 

[sleepykyo]

They come back as spirits and tell him they are disappointed in his life choices so what does he do, ramps up batman times a million and starts batman inc. Touche Mr.Wayne touche

But he can move on after the Batman legacy can continue without him, right? Not sure why Dick Grayson doesn't count.

 

[imoTEP12]

But he can move on after the Batman legacy can continue without him, right? Not sure why Dick Grayson doesn't count.

He could theoretically, but he won't.

 

[Fimbulvetr]

I just saw this Even Worse Superheroes Redesigns page, including the Hulk "redesign":

Willing?

I guess that explains She-Hulk.

 

[Platy]

yeah but there is usually some bastich that can poke holes in him too.

The Lobo vs Hitman comic is close to what i think most of these "batman versus someone" would work.


Or maybe Punisher instead of bats ...

 

[G-Fex]

Well so much for faith in Spider-man

http://youtu.be/F5rM23O202M

 

[the chris]

Well so much for faith in Spider-man

http://youtu.be/F5rM23O202M

 

[Freshmaker]

Wait, what? By the end of the series Aang was most definitely a Waterbending master. And the Avatar State would tip things overwhelmingly in Aang's favour and pretty much guarantees his victory.

But that's besides the point. The scenario was that Aang would have mastery of the four elements, but lack access to the Avatar State.

Storm doesn't have to riverdance to use her powers. Storm wins.

:lol what the fuuuck was that.

Short answer: Muffin Button.

Long answer: Goku has psychic powers so he likely has defenses against psychic attacks as well.

 

[Shouta]

how exactly would the avatar state tip them in his favor against storm?

Because while Storm has the ability to activate and direct the weather, Aang has the ability to actually control the elements of that weather. The Avatar state increases his control and capacity to an amazing degree. The avatars are known for incredible feats in their fully powered states. I personally don't think there is much Storm can do that Aang couldn't figure a way to counter aside from fly away and try and lob as many lightning bolts as she can.