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Is the Hulk the cheapest comic book superhero ever?

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Parallax said:
why are gundams even brought up in this argument? they are real types. if it was nono, mazinger or ideon i could understand, but gundams? and not even g-gundam models? come on with that
Because bangai-o knows next to nothing about Gundam or giant robot anime in general.

There should be a rule along the lines of: "if you don't know why red paint makes a mech 3x faster, shut the hell up about mecha."
 
Freshmaker said:
Ah. But Captain Planet would lose to the Hulk since his gamma radiation would count as pollution thus weakening Captain Planet and forcing him to retreat.
Aah but then when Capitan Planet goes back to the bumhole of the earth or wherever he goes when unsummoned, Ma-Ti will use his heart right to read hulks anger and remove the metaphorical splinter from his paw.

from there Linka will seduce Bruce.
 
SHAZOOM said:
This thread:

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Come on, man. Your posting isn't that bad, don't be so hard on yourself.
 
Anyway, been reading World War Hulk in spare moments... I feel it's going to be necessary for me to go back and read Civil War. How the heck was Dr. Strange so involved in removing Hulk from Earth? And Black Bolt? the other two are easy.

Either way it was good to see Hulk demolish Iron Man and Bolt.
 
sleepykyo said:
Is just Tower of Babel though? In Batman 50 years later, Bruce Wayne was synthesizing Kryponite.


Big deal. Superman has beaten plenty of people who have used Kryptonite against him. It's not like he dies as soon as he sees it. he could put on a lead lined suit and ignore the kryptonite altogether.
 
Wellington said:
Anyway, been reading World War Hulk in spare moments... I feel it's going to be necessary for me to go back and read Civil War. How the heck was Dr. Strange so involved in removing Hulk from Earth? And Black Bolt? the other two are easy.

Either way it was good to see Hulk demolish Iron Man and Bolt.
He was part of the Illumanti, a group that thought they knew best. But it came back to bite them in the ass.
 
onipex said:
nooope. Hulk is cheapest there is. Also a pretty weak character. Even Captain Atom would best him.

You make it sound like Captain Atom is a low tier character.
Captain Atom is def top 10 in terms of overall hero strength rating.
 
Black_Stride said:
You make it sound like Captain Atom is a low tier character.
Captain Atom is def top 10 in terms of overall hero strength rating.

Yeah, he's ignored a lot in mainstream, simply because he's a bit campy and TOO sci-fi for the masses to digest. Microscopic battles just aren't as exciting as throwing planets.

Which is a shame since his powers could theoretically take down anyone who has molecules that can be attacked from the inside.
 
jaxword said:
Yeah, he's ignored a lot in mainstream, simply because he's a bit campy and TOO sci-fi for the masses to digest. Microscopic battles just aren't as exciting as throwing planets.

Which is a shame since his powers could theoretically take down anyone who has molecules that can be attacked from the inside.
In theory Magneto should be able to burst anyone with magnetic bonds between their atoms/molecules. Well unless they get the jump on him/is faster.
 
jaxword said:
Yeah, he's ignored a lot in mainstream, simply because he's a bit campy and TOO sci-fi for the masses to digest. Microscopic battles just aren't as exciting as throwing planets.

Which is a shame since his powers could theoretically take down anyone who has molecules that can be attacked from the inside.
Do you mean Captain Atom, or The Atom?
 
Slayven said:
He was part of the Illumanti, a group that thought they knew best. But it came back to bite them in the ass.

They didn't learn very well though since they essentially reformed and each took an infinity crystal once again
 
Momo said:
Let's call this the dc vs marvel lol-iverse.

Pretty much, bat's foot would probably break if that actually happened, and really sleeping gas. Hulk could just thunder clap or do any number of other things to repel it
 
imoTEP12 said:
Pretty much, bat's foot would probably break if that actually happened, and really sleeping gas. Hulk could just thunder clap or do any number of other things to repel it

What did you just see?
 
Of course Captain Atom could beat the Hulk, he could just absorb all of Banner's gamma radiation and grind the whimpering scientist left behind into dust.
 
Uh what. So the Hulk can go toe to toe with mortals and immortals who have strength and power comparable to him, but a kick from a peak human is enough to have him gasping for air? The abs are among the strongest muscles on the human body.
 
Slayven said:
It's amazing how much play Batman gets out of one story. It's like a reverse Pym effect.
It's not just one story though. Ever since Morrison was on the JLA relaunch, DC has been slowly amping up Batman's BatGodness over the years. You've got Brother Eye before Infinite Crisis, and the whole deal with Darkseid wanting his body to be his new vessel instead of Dan Turpin. And the whole deal with him being able to outwit Darkseid and his Omega Sanction. Now Bruce thinks Batman Inc. is somehow more important and useful than the League.

Anyway, I'm going to post Bruce shooting Darkseid now, not as any proof of being the cheapest, just that it's a badass scene.




Wellington said:
Uh what. So the Hulk can go toe to toe with mortals and immortals who have strength and power comparable to him, but a kick from a peak human is enough to have him gasping for air? The abs are among the strongest muscles on the human body.
The Hulk isn't always at that strength level. What part of "The madder Hulk gets, the stronger Hulk gets"...don't you get? Plus it's a dumb crossover comic.
 
Crewnh said:
It's not just one story though. Ever since Morrison was on the JLA relaunch, DC has been slowly amping up Batman's BatGodness over the years. You've got Brother Eye before Infinite Crisis, and the whole deal with Darkseid wanting his body to be his new vessel instead of Dan Turpin. And the whole deal with him being able to outwit Darkseid and his Omega Sanction. Now Bruce thinks Batman Inc. is somehow more important and useful than the League.


Yeah, bats is written like he is an all knowing man-god in half the comics now
 
onipex said:
Ah, true plus he could just un-hulk the Hulk.
Red Hulk would simply absorb Captain Atom before he had a chance.

Bruce tends to generate a nearly unlimited amount of gamma radiation when he's really pissed too. Darwin tried to shut him off by sucking away the radiation, and he got nowhere.
 
Slayven said:
I prefer Batman as a detective, a guy that isn't the mask. When was the last time there was a good Bruce Wayne story?
When Dini was writing Detective Comics. There was some of that in House of Hush in Streets of Gotham.

If you want some grim and gritty detective Batman, you should check out Scott Snyder's stint on Detective Comics. It's been excellent, though it is Dick Grayson and not Bruce. Though Snyder will be the launch writer of Batman #1 in September and that will star Bruce, so definitely pick that up.
 
Crewnh said:
The Hulk isn't always at that strength level. What part of "The madder Hulk gets, the stronger Hulk gets"...don't you get? Plus it's a dumb crossover comic.

I don't get any of it, please explain.

If his lungs are strong enough to hold his breath until Christmas, sure as shit his abs are strong enough to withstand a kick.
 
Slayven said:
I prefer Batman as a detective, a guy that isn't the mask. When was the last time there was a good Bruce Wayne story?

Probably back in the Denny O'Neil era. The last decade has been kind of tidying up loose ends
Jason Todd, Ra's Al Ghul/Talia
and just building up Bats status within the DCU as a whole.
 
Crewnh said:




The Hulk isn't always at that strength level. What part of "The madder Hulk gets, the stronger Hulk gets"...don't you get? Plus it's a dumb crossover comic.


It looks like Batman is about to get owned in that last picture.
 
Wellington said:
I don't get any of it, please explain.

If his lungs are strong enough to hold his breath until Christmas, sure as shit his abs are strong enough to withstand a kick.

Comic book logic?
Reflex reaction?
Marvel characters usually job to DC characters (barring huge popularity differences)?
 
Crewnh said:
When Dini was writing Detective Comics. There was some of that in House of Hush in Streets of Gotham.

If you want some grim and gritty detective Batman, you should check out Scott Snyder's stint on Detective Comics. It's been excellent, though it is Dick Grayson and not Bruce. Though Snyder will be the launch writer of Batman #1 in September and that will star Bruce, so definitely pick that up.

+1 to the recent detective comics, I wouldn't say they have been stellar but I have been enjoying them more than any Batman Inc comic. Batman and Robin and Red Robin are probably my two current favorite "bat family" comic series though.
 
Gotham Central was my favorite book, personally. It was cool to see how the rest of the normal people viewed Gotham City. I know it's a trendy title to bring up nowadays, but it really was fantastic.
 
WanderingWind said:
Gotham Central was my favorite book, personally. It was cool to see how the rest of the normal people viewed Gotham City. I know it's a trendy title to bring up nowadays, but it really was fantastic.
It's really sad how Brubaker left DC right after that and Rucka stopped writing for DC last year. That team up along with Michael Lark doing the art...what I would give just for them to be together again on a title.
 
demosthenes said:

He gets sent back in time which leads to the "Bruce Wayne - The Road Home" story arc, at the end of the arc he ultimately finds his way back from the past with what he believes is a greater vision of what needs to be done and thus he creates batman incorporated.
 
imoTEP12 said:
He gets sent back in time which leads to the "Bruce Wayne - The Road Home" story arc, at the end of the arc he ultimately finds his way back from the past with what he believes is a greater vision of what needs to be done and thus he creates batman incorporated.

Is that the arc where everyone thinks he's dead but really gets sent to the prehistoric time period along with other eras? I remember people lost their shit when that happened.
 
Jarmel said:
Is that the arc where everyone thinks he's dead but really gets sent to the prehistoric time period along with other eras? I remember people lost their shit when that happened.

That's the one, I actually didn't mind it for the most part but I could see why people wouldn't like it.
 
I brought this up before but it kind of lost in the thread a few days ago, so I want to try again.
Wiseblade said:
How about:

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vs

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Assuming that:
  • Aang is a fully realised avatar, with mastery of all the bending disciplines.
  • Storm is similarly at her peak.
  • Their battleground is a wide open space with a natural sorce of water and available of rock formations. Think of the battleground for Aang vs Fire Lord Ozai.
  • Storm's powers are not derived from any form of bending and as such she is immune to energybending.
  • Aang is unable to acheive the avatar state, even involuntarily.
  • Both are willing to use lethal force if necessary.
 
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